RE: [xmca] cognition bounded?

Eugene, should your signature question be "What do we think?" instead of "What do you think?"? Or "What are we thinking with? [forgive the grammar!]?

Don Cunningham

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Subject: RE: [xmca] cognition bounded?

Dear Mike and everybody-

Let me add my 3 cents (dollar is going down ;-) for this discussion. I think
it is better to use the verb "to mind" or "minding" than the noun "the mind"
since we often refer to a process rather than to a thing. In general, I
agree with Mike, of course. But let tell you an anecdote to illustrate the
"distributed" (or discursive?) nature of the minding process.

A few days ago, when I was leaving my work, I could not find my car in the
university 4-store building parking garage. As my memory has been getting
more and more mature ;-) every day, I knew that it would happen one day and
that day came. While I was frustrating in my search running from one store
of the parking garage to another, I realized that on the top of forgetting
where I had parked my car, I forget to pick up a video camera from my lab
for next day videotaped observation of Lego-Logo Robotics activities at the
Latin-American Community Center. With even more frustration, I went back to
my lab to pick up the camera. At the lab, I realized that I forgot to send a
web announcement to my undergrad students about reading for upcoming class
discussion. I sent the announcement and made some emails, and did some other
work while I was in lab. When I finished, I realized that it took about 2
hours. I came back to the parking garage (with the video camera this time)
to resume the search of my car, the garage was almost empty, and I found my
car very easily. I was thinking about my "strategy" of "waiting" until the
garage became empty, "That was smart!" Now I am thinking, where was my mind?
Did I have mind at all? Was it minding? Was it MY minding? Did I lose mind
and then found? Does mind, like sh..., sometimes simply happen?

Or is "my mind" a historical and cultural form of discourse for me to
notice/recognize certain things and use them in future (like in future when
I lose my car in the UD parking garage I might stop frustrating and stop
useless searching efforts and just go back to my office to work more waiting
until cars will be gone from the garage)? Is "the mind" reification of this
discourse?

What do you think?

Eugene

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Eugene Matusov, Ph.D.

Professor of Education

School of Education

University of Delaware

Newark, DE 19716, USA

email: ematusov@udel.edu

fax: 1-(302)-831-4110

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From: Mike Cole [mailto:lchcmike@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:45 PM
To: Eugene Matusov
Subject: Fwd: [xmca] cognition bounded?

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From: Mike Cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>
Date: Dec 4, 2007 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [xmca] cognition bounded?
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
Cc: Kevin Rocap <Kevin.Rocap@liu.edu <mailto:Kevin.Rocap@liu.edu> >

This appears to be the responibility of Deleware and Louisiana. Eugene and
David?

My view? OF COURSE the mind is in the head.... but not only. If it were only
in the head it would stay
there and not kill people. Too damned good at killing people as it is!
mike

On Dec 4, 2007 8:16 PM, Juan Felipe Espinosa Cristià <jfespino@uc.cl
<mailto:jfespino@uc.cl> > wrote:

:)

Kevin Rocap escribió:

> Then who's minding the store? ;-)
>
> Juan Felipe Espinosa Cristià wrote:
>> Dear All:
>>
>> An online paper from the authors is at:
>>
>> http://www.udel.edu/Philosophy/papers/adams2007.pdf
>>
>> They said that "the mind is still in the head".
>>
>>
>> Juan Felipe Espinosa C.
>> jfespino@uc.cl
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 12/4/07 11:20 AM, "Peter Smagorinsky" < smago@uga.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>
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>>>> theory
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>>>>
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>>>>
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