RE: [xmca] Fyodor Vasiliuk's book

Yordanka and others,
In my dissertation I am using the concept of perezhivanie to analyze
emotional and cognitive development of adults and children in the
adult-child joint play of a playworld (Lindqvist, Hakkarainen). I am very
interested in the "?????" below, and also other relevant refferences that
people may be able to send me. Thank you very much in advance!
Beth

> Mike,
>
> Certainly, the book is well written and the site is well organised.
> However, it looks like that the library is not that concerned about
> copyright issues!
>
> Like so many other members of this list I have experienced difficulties
> while trying to translate perezhivanie into English. From what has been
> said so far, it is clear that 'experiencing' does not cover sufficiently
> the meaning of 'perezhivanie'. I prefer to translate it as 'affective
> recount of experience' because I wish to keep the meaning as close as
> possible within the boundaries of cultural-historical body of knowledge. I
> consider this translation consistent with Vygotsky's idea of the unity of
> affective and cognitive processes. It seems consistent with Lydia
> Bozhovich's interpretation of perezhivanie as an internal position as
> well. The role that Bozhovich gives to perezhivanie is simply recognition
> of the fact that the development begins with an affective reconsideration
> of the social situation.
>
> You explained in similar light the meaning of the prefix "pere" in your
> earlier post. You wrote that: 'It indexes a process of getting through
> some experience, or reliving an experience, or re-building'. Your account
> is quite reasonable because it describes the process of perezhivanie and
> also gives insights into the developmental dimensions of perezhivanie.
>
> An analogous discussion to ours has taken place among the translators of
> Stanislavsky's works. Stanislavsky considered perezhivanie as a main
> concept of his system. He used the term in a different sense. He referred
> to the actor's 'living the role', or experiencing being the other and
> feeling the emotions of this other as his/her own. Although the meaning
> of Stanislavsky's perezhivanie is in a way distant from Vygotsky's
> concept, the discussion around its translation illustrates how difficult
> it is to express the meaning of this old Slavonic word into English.
>
> On the other hand, experience is often translated into Russian as
> perezhivanie. For instance, Maslow's term 'peak experiences' ('Toward a
> Psychology of Being') has been translated into Russian as 'pikovye
> perezhivania' (see ?????? ?.(1997) ?????????? ?????. ???. ? ????. ?.?.
> ?????????. M.: ????-???, ??????).
>
> Clearly, there remains a need for the further clarification of the meaning
> of this concept.
>
> Yordanka
>
>
>
>
> Yordanka Valkanova
> Lecturer in Childhood Studies
>
> FR031 Froebel College
> School of Education
> Roehampton University
> Roehampton Lane
> London SW15 5PJ
> Tel.: 020 8392 3386
> Email: Y.Valkanova@roehampton.ac.uk<mailto:Y.Valkanova@roehampton.ac.uk>
> http://www.roehampton.ac.uk/staff/YordankaValkanova/
>
> _____
>
> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu on behalf of Mike Cole
> Sent: Thu 29/11/2007 06:44
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: Re: [xmca] Fyodor Vasiliuk's book
>
>
>
> This site is great and so is the book. But many need it in English.
> How do you interpret the idea of perezhivanie, Yordanka? How does this
> idea
> break down barriers between cognition and emotion? Does perezhivanie
> develop?
> (I think it must, but my batting average is not much better than Jackie
> Robinson's!)
> mike
>
> On Nov 28, 2007 9:12 AM, <y.valkanova@roehampton.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> The full text of Fyodor Vasiliuk's book is located at:
>>
>>
>> http://psylib.org.ua/books/vasif01/index.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> Yordanka Valkanova
>> Lecturer in Childhood Studies
>>
>> FR031 Froebel College
>> School of Education
>> Roehampton University
>> Roehampton Lane
>> London SW15 5PJ
>> Tel.: 020 8392 3386
>> http://www.roehampton.ac.uk/staff/YordankaValkanova/
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu on behalf of Peter Smagorinsky
>> Sent: Wed 28/11/2007 16:49
>> To: mcole@weber.ucsd.edu; 'eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity'
>> Subject: RE: [xmca] L.I. Bozhovich and perezhivanie
>>
>>
>>
>> As I understand it, Cuban-born, Brazil-abode?
>> I don't have Vasiliuk, but s/he's available on the cheap:
>> http://www.ecampus.com/book/5010005042
>> http://www.textbookx.com/detail-book-5010005042.html
>> http://biggerbooks.com/bk_detail.aspx?isbn=5010005042
>>
>> Peter Smagorinsky
>> The University of Georgia
>> 125 Aderhold Hall
>> Athens, GA 30602
>> smago@uga.edu/phone:706-542-4507
>> http://www.coe.uga.edu/lle/faculty/smagorinsky/index.html
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Mike Cole
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:51 AM
>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> Subject: Re: [xmca] L.I. Bozhovich and perezhivanie
>>
>> Hi Peter-- Thanks for that reminder. Fernando Rey is currently working
>> in
>> Brazilia I believe.
>> You have Vasiliuk, *The psychology of experiencing" (perezhivanie)??
>>
>> mike
>>
>> On Nov 28, 2007 3:34 AM, Peter Smagorinsky <smago@uga.edu> wrote:
>>
>> > While trying to learn more about L.I. Bozhovich and perezhivanie, I
>> came
>> > across a paper at www.fae.unicamp.br/br2000/trabs/1760.doc that
>> concerns
>> > Vygotsky and personality-thought others might be interested (and my
>> > apologies if it's already been posted and I missed it-I've only had
>> time
>> > to
>> > skim xmca posts of late). Peter
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Peter Smagorinsky
>> >
>> > The University of Georgia
>> >
>> > 125 Aderhold Hall
>> >
>> > Athens, GA 30602
>> >
>> > smago@uga.edu/phone:706-542-4507
>> >
>> > http://www.coe.uga.edu/lle/faculty/smagorinsky/index.html
>> >
>> >
>> >
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