Ed,
Your question puts my issue in a somewhat different perspective, one
that I have not worked on a lot, but it certainly seems relevant. COP -
Community Of Practice - the way I interpret it to connect it with the
Activity Theory Model, deals mostly with the "division of labor"
(roles) -- and that is, of course,connected to the "rules" part of the
model. So if you have one division of labor in one activity, which is
also based on some stated and unstated rules, conventions and
expectations, then, my question is, how another activity in which the
rules and division of labor are different, interacts with the first one?
Does it interact? Can it interact? and how?
I have not read Jean Lave's work on transfer. Could you send a reference?
Thanks
Ana
Ed Wall wrote:
> Mike
>
> There are many ways in which I am somewhat on the border in many of
> these conversations. As I read what Ana wrote what came to mind was
> some of the work Jean Lave did on the notion of transfer (within a
> social and anthropological context). I was wondering how Ana's
> questions, if they even do, interface with that body of work. Thus, it
> is quite possible I was asking about interfacing between ch/at and COP
> (I don't know what COP is - smile - although I presume it has
> something to do with social anthropology). I am sure there is a
> different emphasis, but the phenomena sound somewhat the same. What
> you say about Vrjo sounds interesting. Are those some relevant papers
> at xcma?
>
> Ed
>
>> Ed-- I interpret Ana's questionS to involve the issue of transfer and
>> relations between
>> activities and partipants involvement in those relational connections.
>>
>> This also connects with Yrjo's characterization of 3rd generation ch/at
>> research that
>> focuses on connections between activity systems.
>>
>> Maybe your question could also be interpreted as a request to clarify
>> the
>> relations between ch/at
>> and COP approaches to knowledge acquisition and transfer??
>> mike
>>
>> On 9/11/05, Ed Wall <ewall@umich.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> How does your question interface with the work of Jean Lave and
>>> colleagues? A refinement?
>>>
>>> Ed Wall
>>>
>>> >I thought this question went to the whole list, but it ended just in
>>> >Mike's box. Here it is again:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > My question is the interaction between different activities: what
>>> can be
>>> > "taken" from one activity to another? (Old question of the
>>> universals)
>>> > Also: what can be created only in a combination of several
>>> activities.
>>> > This is what I mean: we all participate in more than one activity
>>> all
>>> > the time. Is it possible to learn something in one activity and
>>> then use
>>> > it in another? In other words: what does it mean to "transport" a
>>> > way of
>>> > acting, behaving, or thinking from one activity to another?
>>> > And - what is a product only of participating in a certain
>>> > combination of activities at the same time?
>>> >
>>> > In my workshop in Sevilla I will explore interaction between the
>>> > "imaginary" and the "real" -- passing through in and out, and the
>>> > relationships between the two -- and what are the outcomes of this
>>> > relationship.
>>> >
>>> > See you in Sevilla
>>> > Ana
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Mike Cole wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > You have a question about ch/at you might want answered during
>>> > your trip??
>>> > > A shame Helena could not come, and odd about that symposium. Odd
>>> > about
>>> > > the whole
>>> > > setup!
>>> > >
>>> > > See you in Sevilla.
>>> > > mike
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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