Exuse the indulgence - but Bruce is checking my gremlins if there be any.
Mika Haritos-Fatouros has been doing this work for years - at first dealing
with the Greek torturers (during the 1967-73 Junta). The focus of the work
is on the torturer and not the torture. As with teaching, torturing takes
quite a psychological toll. Her work adds a new spin to the "banality of
evil" concept.
There are a lot of teacher education courses around if you're interested.
-----Original Message-----
From: xmca-request@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-request@weber.ucsd.edu] On
Behalf Of Eugene Matusov
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 2:26 PM
To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
Cc: Alla Matusov; Dusty Twister; Lev Matusov; PIG
Subject: RE: from J. Glick
Dear Joe and Mike-
Thanks a lot for passing this message to us! It is most useful! I'm looking
forward for reading the cited book.
Eugene
PS Does anybody know about any parallel work on cruelties in schools?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Cole [mailto:mcole@weber.ucsd.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 1:42 PM
> To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> Subject: from J. Glick
>
>
> Joe has asked me to forward this note to the list because the gremlins
> have knocked him off. The gremlin snuffers are out searching for the
guilty
> glitcher.
> mike
> -------------------------------------
>
>
> Message From: Phil Zimbardo <zim@stanford.edu>
>
> Subject: Abuse of Iraqi prisoners and the SPE parallels Posted By:
> Phil Zimbardo
> Institution: Stanford U.
> Date: May 1 2004, 12:46 p.m.
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 5 1 04
> Dear Colleagues
> Just a quick note before heading off to a meeting of the Council of
> Scientific Society Presidents (CSSP) where Psych is the only social
> science among 62 societies represented, and I am its chair elect.
> -----
> Recent horrors being displayed of sexual degradation of Iraqi
> prisoners by U.S. military army reservists elicit direct and sad
> parallels between similar behavior of the "guards" in the Stanford
> Prison Experiment against their "prisoners." As the guards on the
> night shift became ever more bored with their long 8 hour shift, they
> began to use the prisoners as play things for their amusement,
> believing that their actions were not under surviellance during the
> night (they were secretly video taped for subsequent viewing). I then
> discovered they would get them to simulate sodomy and other homophobic
> behaviors. They also stripped prisoners naked for various offenses,
> took away their sheets and mattresses, put them in solitary for
> excessive periods -- all of which are mirrored in the behavior of
> military police in the Abu Ghraib prison outside of Bagdad. It is one
> reason we ended the study a week early because the guards were abusing
> the power in their roles, and were becoming unco!
> ntrollable by our staff. (see www.prisonexp.org)
>
> See the report by Seymour Hersh, who helped expose the MY Lai
> massacre, for details of the exent of the torture, abuse of all kinds,
> murder of inmates, coverups by senior officers and details.
>
> In the current situation, we must not allow the politicians and
> pentagon to dismiss the seriousness of what happened with the usual
> dispositional analysis of a few bad apples in a good barrel. Bush said
> it should not reflect on the good nature of all Americans or our
> military.
>
> Wrong. The situational analysis says the barrel of war is filled with
> vinegar that will transform good cucumbers into sour pickles and will
> always do it to make the majority of good people, men and women, into
> perpetrators of evil, where there is: anonymity-deindividuation,
> dehumanization, secrecy, diffusion of responsibility, social modeling,
> big power differentials, frustration, feelings of revenge,obedience to
> authority, lack of supervision that conveys a sense of permissiveness.
>
> Remember the My Lai massacre in Vietnam, other good boy-soldiers
> murdered, raped, scalped and burned to death hundreds of innocent
> Vietnamese civilians, and only one was tried and Lt. Calley was soon
> released to become a hero of the right wing.
>
> I studied torturers and death squad executioners in Brazil and there
> civil and military police committed the most atrocious horrors against
> fellow citizens once they were labelled the "enemy" -- socialists and
> communists-- and the ideology of "National Security" made them a
> threat to the fascist military junta running the country--with the
> support of our government.
>
> Again we show in our recent book that basic social psych principles
> were operating to morph ordinary Brazilian police into brutal
> torturers and heartless mass murderers (see Violence Workers, UC
> Berkeley press, 2003, Huggins, Haritos-Fatouros, Zimbardo).
>
> The ubiquitous causal force in all this is the Evil of War, and the
> cover story of "National Security," and now the exaggerated fears of
> terrorism that have been induced by ten "credible" terror alarms is
> transforming our nation into a culture of victims and our soldiers
> into brutal abusers of other human beings.
>
> This one incident of waton, repeated, dehumanized abuse of innocent
> Iraqi civilian detainees will haunt the objectives of the Bush
> administration of bringing any semblance of US- style democracy to the
> Middle East -- it will now not happen. It is not Americans at our
> worst, it is human nature succumbing to the power of evil situational
> forces. The horror is that our soldiers should never have been put in
> harm's way to be killed, maimed, and now to have to function in
> situations that enabled them to behave in ways that are a perversion
> of the perfection of our humanity. The rush to this pre-emptive war
> was based on lies, false assumptions and political and economic
> objectives that had nothing to do with WMD, terrorism, or enhancing
> our national security.
>
> WAR IS INDEED HELL, AND THIS AGGRESSIVE, NEEDLESS WAR IS HELL ON EARTH
> THAT WILL HAVE LONG-LASTING NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES AT HOME AND
> ABROAD.
> ONE SLIM HOPE IS SOME IMPROVEMENT AFTER THE NOV. ELECTIONS IF THE
> CURRENT WAR-MONGERING ADMINISTRATION IS DEFEATED. BUT THE
> CURRENT
> NATIONAL INERTIA IS AMAZING TO ME, ESPECIALLY AMONG OUR PASSIVE
> UNCONCERNED STUDENTS.
>
> Phil Zimbardo
>
>
>
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