Re: garbled history

From: maria judith (costlins@ism.com.br)
Date: Sat Apr 20 2002 - 05:51:24 PDT


this is easy to discover. dewey's influence on vygotsky can be observed, even if they didn't meet each one, probably vygotsky read dewey's work.
maria
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    De: Ricardo Ottoni Vaz Japiassu <rjapias@uol.com.br>
    Para: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
    Data: Sexta-feira, 19 de Abril de 2002 17:54
    Assunto: Re: garbled history
    
    
    If they meet one another it has not been proved. But, a carefull reading of Vygotsky's Educational Psychology will let one conclude he had, ideed, be strongly influenced by Dewey's ideas on children school education.
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        De: King Beach <kdbeach@pilot.msu.edu>
        Para: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
        Data: Sexta-feira, 19 de Abril de 2002 14:56
        Assunto: Re: garbled history
        
        
        I agree with Mike and Jim on this. Prawat assumes that given shared
        geography and timing, Dewey and Vygotsky must have met when Dewey
        visited Russia, but he has found no direct evidence of such a
        meeting, nor, if there was such a meeting, that they influenced each
        other. I have argued with Dick, who is a colleague here, that some
        broader interpretations of CHAT seem to be run through a filter of
        American pragmatism (Dewey, Mead, and perhaps James) but that this
        influence is mediated by others and has taken place after the
        originating parties were long gone.
        
        --King
        
        
>The entire issue of Dewey, Vygotsky, Russia, etc is horribly garbled.
>Prawat is a fine scholar, but his imagining as about dewey and vygotsky
>meeting are neither necessary nor plausible.
>
>Bruce-- On the other hand, it is well documetned that Dewey went to the
>USSR.
>
>All-- Tread cautiously on disputed, twisted, and contentious historical
>narratives. (This caution applies not only to the case at hand, as we
>have been properly warned by reminders of memory of the turkish
>extermination of Armenians-- also, I am sure, a contentious "truth."
>mike
        
        
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