Re: remarkable coincidences

From: maria judith (costlins@ism.com.br)
Date: Sun Apr 14 2002 - 16:18:01 PDT


would you plese give me the address to the Internet Encyclopedia of
Philosophy?
thank you
maria
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De: Ana Marjanovic Shane <anashane@speakeasy.net>
Para: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
Data: Domingo, 14 de Abril de 2002 01:54
Assunto: Re: remarkable coincidences

>I think that ideas and concepts start like small snowballs. And for a long
>time they don't make a difference.
>But they grow - not like snowballs, more like fungus - linking underground
>and spawning to seemingly great distances. No one knows who are their
>carriers and how exactly they travel from one person (group,
>institution...) to another. Sometimes you can partially trace their
>probable and likely paths. For instance:
>I have always heard that Vygotsky knew the work of Dewey and that in some
>way Dewey's ides have had an influence on him.
>But did you know that Dewey had some links to Moscow himself??
>I read in the Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy that:
>"Dewey's retirement from active teaching in 1930 did not curtail his
>activity either as a public figure or productive philosopher. Of special
>note in his public life was his participation in the Commission of Inquiry
>into the Charges Against Leon Trotsky at the Moscow Trial, which exposed
>Stalin's political machinations behind the Moscow trials of the mid-1930s"
>The time (mid thirties) is right, the location is right. Did Dewey ever go
>to Moscow?? Who did Dewey know among the Moscow circle Psychologists and
>intellectuals in general? Did Dewey ever know about Vygotsky's ideas and
>theories?
>Maybe someone knows??
>
>It is very hard to say when some idea will "suddenly" emerge and how long
>did it take to "cook" it, what paths did it traverse, what contexts did it
>touch, how did it change along the way and how did it gain all the
>significance.
>
>It is eery, I agree, but maybe it is possible to study it?? Arne Reithel
>once made a map with arrows showing the genealogy of western philosophical
>and social scientific ideas and how they travelled from philosopher to
>another... I know I have it somewhere- but it will take me some time to
>find it.
>
>Ana
>
>
>At 12:14 AM 4/14/2002 +0000, you wrote:
>>I don't think it is so eery (as i may have in the past)
>>but only at a gut level, e.g. another coincidence are
>>some authors close to home who have come to the same
>>kind of conclusions on the papers they are working on
>>more or less "independently". maybe the convergences
>>are something "in the air" so to speak with "air" being
>>something between an institutional and a global scale --
>>it may be, in perversion of Durkheim's words, the
>>current which sweeps us off our feet, and places us on
>>the same sandbar. And metaphor is only as far as i can
>>understand it. A really good puzzle, eh?
>>--
>>
>> >
>> > BB-- monday we have a discussion of co-genetic logic at lchc. And my
>> > daughter is studying the changing nature of prostitution in the
globalized
>> > fourth world.
>> >
>> > Put that together with discussion of emergence, charcter development
>> (thanks
>> > Peter), the level of coincidence gets kind of eery!
>> > mike
>> >
>



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