Hmm. Maybe not so prior. Was not that the title of Shif's work? I maybe wrong, but I'd bet that was the work Vygotsky utilized for chapter 7 in T&L. I do not believe such a title is consistent with his
"reflex" lingo in Educational Psychology.
Nate
11/1/2001 5:35:46 PM, Mike Cole <mcole@weber.ucsd.edu> wrote:
>
>Julian, David, et al--
>
>As I said in an earlier note, the notice of the death of the conversation
>about math seems premature to me. Just a lot going on at once.
>
>David-- it was you who quoted Vygotsky's pedagogical psych-- as in
>
>
>According to him "In arithmetic the child assimilate a certain method of thinkin
>g with no dependence from the material she/he uses to solve a task. In sociology
> and natural sciences the material is the concrete reality that the concept refl
>ects. So, it seems to me that the ways of scientific concepts development in ari
>thmetic and sociology can be someway different" (In an attached chapter titled S
>cientific and everyday concepts development in school age of the Portuguese vers
>ion of EDUCATIONAL PSYCHOLOGY)
>
>Fascinating. This book was written prior to the fomulation of cultural-historical
>psychology. It would be fascinating to see where he talks about math in
>writing 6-8 years later to see if they are consistent.
>mike
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