It makes for an interesting discussion when the author of the work under
discussion participates! But I think that YE would agree that his virtual
presence should in no way inhibit the conversation. The author can not
control what use or misuse readers will make of a manuscript. I don't
believe you will offend him if you disagree or fail to understand his point.
Quite the contrary, our discussion may help him clarify his thinking. I, for
one, am struggling with his discussion of the horizontal and vertical. More
on this later.
djc
-----Original Message-----
From: Yrjo Engestrom [mailto:yengestr@ucsd.edu]
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 8:10 AM
To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
Subject: Re: Chapter 1 and New Introduction
Right on, Kevin - that's what I meant.
Yrjo Engestrom
on 1.4.2001 23:31, Kevin Rocap at krocap@csulb.edu wrote:
> Dear Eric,
>
> Noting the several references to Jung's collective unconscious does seem
> to be a key to some evolving notions of "expansion."
>
> At the same time YE states explicitly that "the gateway to understanding
> expansion is neither the concept of collective unconscious nor that of
> perspective but the concept of activity."
>
> I take this to mean that YE finds the collective unconscious to be too
> "mystical" a notion, not rooted enough in both internal/external and
> mental/material interactions, nor susceptible enough to scientific
> explication. At the same time, it is as if YE sees the idea of a
> collective unconscious as at least a fertile imagining that opens the
> field of "expansion" for consideration, if not actually explicating it
> in the process, almost as though Jung was a science fiction writer whose
> collective unconscious fantasy pre-sages what later science can affirm
> and explicate more precisely.
>
> In Peace,
> K.
>
> MnFamilyMan@aol.com wrote:
>
>> Intuitively I am troubled that he wants to equate expansive learning
>> with Jung's social conscious. Nothing sound yet to mention any more
>> about this idea but would certainly appreciate if anyone could clarify
>> this 'expansive learning'concept.
>>
>> Eric
>
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