Re: Re(2): III Sociocultural Conference

From: King Beach (kdbeach@pilot.msu.edu)
Date: Tue Aug 01 2000 - 16:47:37 PDT


Phillip and Paul,

I think the concept that Nagarjuna's verse refers has been translated as
"dependent origination," in which causation is the result of relations or
correlations rather than the various Aristotelian forms of causation
(material, efficient, formal, and other other that I can't remember).
Essentially there is no agent-action distinction in dependent origination,
and agency is vested in the relation as it develops. Thus persons and
social organizations bring each other forth. This does have some
interesting implications for what might be appropriate units of analysis...

--King

>Phillip,
>
>Your selection of the Buddha's verses to Vasettha brought to mind Nargjuna's
>section on "Agent and Action" which you might find of interest, if you don't
>know it already. I think the point of the buddhist teaching on this being
>that neither agent or action cannot be understood separately. Consider:
>
> "Action depends upon the agent.
> The agent itself depends on the action.
> One cannot see any way
> To establish them differently.
>
> "From this elimination of agent and action,
> One should elucidate appropriation in the same way.
> Through action and agent
> All remaining things should be understood."
>
> - Mulamadyamakakarika, Ch. 8, 12-13.
>
>My personal interest here being the self-annihilating dialectic of the
>buddhist teaching (dialectic of sunyata/emptiness) vs. the
>self-transcending/self-anihilating dialectic of the Hegelian tradition
>(aufhebung). Perhaps found in the contrasted understanding of sangha v.
>community/society??
>
>Paul H. Dillon

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