A correction or two. It should have read right to left. Another interesting
addition,
"However, no long count date occurs with a baktun count of more than 12,
except that 13.0.0.0.0 occurs (see Morley [39], pp.203-4, for an example). A
widely-accepted school of thought holds that in the Maya long count system
13.0.0.0.0 marks the beginning of a new cycle, and so is equivalent to
0.0.0.0.0. In this view, 13 baktuns make up a great cycle or, Maya era, of
13*144,000 = 1,872,000 days (approximately 5125.37 solar years)."
http://www.magnet.ch/serendipity/hermetic/cal_stud/maya/chap1.htm
The count system would start over in about 10 years.
Nate
-----Original Message-----
From: Nate Schmolze [mailto:schmolze@students.wisc.edu]
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 9:41 PM
To: Xmca
Subject: RE: The positive side
Eugene,
Its been over for 3000 years :)
I am not sure if adding a day will help us here. If as I heard the Mayans
originated the number (0) it was with a base 20 system. So, January 1st 2000
would be,
12.19.6.15.2
http://www.tzolkin.com/mayancal.htm?DateMonth=January&DateDay=1&DateYear=200
0&Action=Calculate
With the decimal points being left to right;
1 kin = 1 day,
1 uinal = 20 kins = 20 days
1 tun = 18 uinals = 360 days
1 katun = 20 tuns = 7,200 days
1 baktun = 20 katuns = 144,000 days
http://www.magnet.ch/serendipity/hermetic/cal_stud/maya/chap1.htm
So, 12.19.6.15.2 denotes a count of 12 baktuns, 19 katuns, 6 tuns, 15 uinals
and 2 kin, or 12*144,000 + 19*7,200 + 6*360 + 15*20 + 2*1 days, or 1,867,262
days. It could be roughly translated as follows,
1,728,000 days (20 decade century)
136,800 days (20 year decade)
2,160 days (18 week year - 360 days)
300 days (20 day week)
2 days (day)
___
1,867,262 days
If we divide it by 365 we get 5115.7863013698630136986301369863 years.
Either way it looks like we are about 3000 years to late.
This just goes to show you maybe Einstein had something with time being
relative.
Nate
-----Original Message-----
From: Eugene Matusov [mailto:ematusov@UDel.Edu]
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 6:55 PM
To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
Subject: RE: The positive side
Hi everybody--
Eva wrote in response to Paul,
> >From where I am -- which is a place where I have good water,
> plenty to eat,
> telephone, net access, and tons of education -- I still do not expect much
> good from the "full effect" of the Internet, if I may extrapolate my
> intuitions. Where do you get your optimism?
I wonder if it is true that the percentage of people on the Earth who belong
to middle and upper classes has been increased in this century (I want to
remind all xmca-ers that this 20th century and 2nd millennium are not over
yet -- one more year to go -- because it were Native Americans who invented
0 and all Christian calendars started with the year 1 when Jesus Christ was
supposed to be born.)? This is definitely true for some countries (like USA,
Western Europe, Canada, Australia, Japan, Southern Korea, Taiwan). But maybe
it is even true for China, Argentina, Brazil, Mexico, Middle East, and
Eastern Europe including Russia at a lesser scope. What about Africa?
Anyway, if it is true would you consider this as evidence for optimism?
What do you think?
Eugene
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eva Ekeblad [mailto:eva.ekeblad@ped.gu.se]
> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 12:02 PM
> To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> Subject: The positive side
>
>
> At 22.41 -0800 0-01-15, Paul Dillon wrote:
> > But there is a positive side: I don't think
> >the full effect of the internet has been felt yet--especially the
> >communication and coordination that it affords non-hegemonic
> voices--or the
> >simple effect of its globalization of culture.
>
> Yes, I've been wondering since this morning what you base this on, Paul.
> >From where I am -- which is a place where I have good water,
> plenty to eat,
> telephone, net access, and tons of education -- I still do not expect much
> good from the "full effect" of the Internet, if I may extrapolate my
> intuitions. Where do you get your optimism?
>
> e.e.
>
> eve.ekeblad@ped.gu.se
>
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