> Joco Batista Martins,
Sorry, Joco
Sometimes my spell checkers thinks its in charge.
>
> I enjoyed the article very much. One comment that stood out for me was,
>
> "Such perspectives in suggest one another way to them to
> olharmos/avaliarmos the learning of the pupils. They, when entering in
the
> school, bring a series of concepts learned in its social relations. In
the
> school, they have contact with concepts that are not related with its
> immediate experiences with the reality - they are more abstract, distant
of
> its daily one. This meeting - between daily concepts and scientific
> concepts - creates a contradiction, contradiction that if surpasses in
the
> measure that the pupil exercises the concepts in guideline. To surpass
such
> situation, however, does not mean to abandon the scientific concept for
the
> daily one (and vice versa), for the the opposite, the pupil will surpass
> such situation creating a new concept, concept this that if constructs
from
> a synthesis enters both the types of concepts."
>
> I do not remember having scientific/everyday concepts being described so
> explicitly as a contradiction of sorts, but I found it real useful in my
> understanding of scientific/everyday concepts. I wasn't real sure of how
> to interpret it because as students from Brasil in my classes mention
> Marxist thought is more influential in Brasil than the U.S. How I
> interpreted the synthesis was not the thesis (everyday concepts) and not
> the anti-thesis (scientific concepts) but something new and different
from
> each. If my interpretation was your intention I think its a very
> interesting way of looking at the zone of proximal development. Too
often,
> excluding the special xcma issue on this subject, scientific/everyday
> concepts tend to be seen linearly as in everyday to scientific or
> scientific replacing everyday and I found your reference to synthesis
very
> interesting.
>
> I enjoyed it very much,
>
> Nate
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joco Batista Martins <jbmartin who-is-at sercomtel.com.br>
> To: <schmolze who-is-at students.wisc.edu>
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 4:41 PM
> Subject: Re: request for Portuguese Refs
>
>
> Nate, do you translated my paper? what do you think about the
text?
> do you liked?
>
> Joco Martins
>
>
> Joco Batista Martins
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> -----Mensagem original-----
> De: nate <schmolze who-is-at students.wisc.edu>
> Para: xmca who-is-at weber.ucsd.edu <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> Data: Segunda-feira, 26 de Abril de 1999 12:55
> Assunto: Re: request for Portuguese Refs
>
>
> >Just for the record there is a free web based translator from Infoseek
> that
> >while not perfect does an acceptable job of translating most
alphabetical
> >languages. For example, I translated Joao Martins paper on Vygotsky
to
> >english and I was able to read it.
> >
> >http://translator.go.com/
> >
> >
> >Nate
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Mike Cole <mcole who-is-at weber.ucsd.edu>
> >To: <xmca who-is-at weber.ucsd.edu>
> >Sent: Saturday, April 24, 1999 10:58 AM
> >Subject: request for Portuguese Refs
> >
> >
> >>From: Miguel "Valirio" <mvalerio1 who-is-at yahoo.com>
> >To: "Michael " Cole <mcole who-is-at ucsd.edu>
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >Status: RO
> >
> >I'm a student of Social Work in Portugal at Universidade de
> >Tras-os-Montes e Alto Douro, and i E-Mail you, to ask you if it is
> >possible send me some good bibliography and sites in Portuguese about
> >Cultural Psychology in the Themes that you writes in your book
> >"Cultural Psychology" (that is the book that i'm using in my
> >discipline).
> >
> >Thank you very much,
> >
> >Respectably,
> >
> >Miguel Bngelo (mvalerio1 who-is-at yahoo.com)
> >
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