I hope that wasn't Eva's intent, but I'm feeling painted into a corner by:
>At 17.36 +1100 98-12-14, Martin ELLISON wrote:
>>is factual correctness passe'?
>
>No, it isn't.
So now I've gotta go back to Martin's comments:
>This is all good rhetoric, but not exactly factual. Stoicism was
>invented about 300BC, about 800 years before the fall of Rome.
True, but Stoicism "greatest hours" are generally accepted to have come
after the glory days of Rome. Most of the works that we have describing
the initial movement were written in the first to third Centuries AD.
What Cicero failed to do in upholding the actual doctrines of
Stoicism, he seems to have more than made up for in traumatizing his
followers!
>The
>Renaissance was basically over by the fall of Constantinople in 1453.
Well, this is missing the point a little bit in both directions. The
fall of Constantinople really started when it was sacked by the crusaders
in the 1200s. On the other hand, Descartes and Hobbes are usually used
to date the philosophical Renaissance - clearly after 1453. Maybe
historians have put a "official date" on the Renaissance, but the
revolution of ideas feel no obligation to hold to such boundaries.
So perhaps not exactly on the mark - but still within the ballpark, I
think!
So is objectivity safe again?? -- To be promptly bought, renamed, and
sold as a Microsoft patented and trademark product.
Back to the rebirth idea again . . . . . .
Peace, Edouard :-)
P.S. You *really* would have preferred to hear more about _Heaven's
Mirror_ - trust me! :-)
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