Re: A short dry chronicle

Glenn Humphreys (glenhump who-is-at soonet.ca)
Thu, 16 Oct 1997 19:29:57 -0400 (EDT)

Diane, I was starting my doctorate at the time xgrad started. For a while
there, I also acted as a moderator. My recollection is that many of us had
a bit of trouble asking "beginner" questions about sociocognitive theory in
the AT tradition. It was not that anyone like Dewey or Mike was intolerant
of our questions. In fact, the senior guys were amazingly tolerant and
quite openly inviting of our stumblings. I, at least, just felt that I
might de-rail the main conversation by asking "beginner" questions about the
background to the main themes under discussion.

In any case, I recall that the replies to our questions were not only public
on xlchc, but there was also a lot of back channel discussion between grad
students who identified each other after seeing each other's uncomfortable
questions to the main group. I get the sense that one student would ask a
question, and this would inspire a small flurry of back channel talk among a
few interested students.

Xgrad was more like a chance to "officially" continue these back channel
initiatives. Far from there being an anti-theoretical antagonism among
students, there was a very keen interest in the theoretical issues under
discussion. However, those of us involved in xgrad at the time felt that we
needed a "beginner" group where we could help each other to the background
necessary to interpret the main themes on xlchc -- without derailing those
main discussions. We had some pretty good talks, as I recall.

The problem with xgrad, I think, was that a student population is very
fluid. Peoples' courses ended, they moved away from departments to continue
their careers at other universities, and otherwise discontinue e-mail
contact. Or, in my case, they went back to working on their theses while
going back to full-time jobs in the midst of highly distracting political
circumstances (as I am doing now). The xgrad discussion group seemed very
unstable, lacking continuity of membership. Eventually, it just died out
from a process of what I think of as the natural attrition common in social
institutions.

Now...if you want to talk about anti-theoretical attitudes among teaching
practitioners who have not engaged in grad work, then that is a VERY
different story indeed. Boy, could I tell you some stories about that!

--glenn

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