[Xmca-l] Re: Butterfly found

[mike cole]

To me the important point in Peter's talk and paper is that the term
blizaishi adopted by teachers, owing to the
regimes of instruction that they are required to implement (constant
testing, etc.) produces a form of "next step,"
short-term, strategy that denudes the social situation of
relevance/interest to the child.  LSV, he says, projected the developmental
process into the longer-term process of development, say, the first 20
years or so.

Evidence that Denis Newman, Peg Griffin, and I collected about 30 years ago
indicates that the teacher's with whom
we worked were intensely concerned with the challenges that students would
face in the coming academic year... We found them selectively focusing on
skills in 4th grade that had no special relevance in 4th grade, but became
the center of attention in the 5th when  particular skills became parts of
more complex systems. But the short term focus was, as Peter suggests on
the here and now and tomorrow test.

An application of these ideas about seeking the short term as a part of the
longer term can be found in what Peg Griffen and I called "Field College"
at  http://lchc.ucsd.edu/Histarch/jl82v4n3.PDF#page=1 . The organization of
instruction in the model system we called "Question Asking Reading" at
Field College can be in cole-cultural psychology 1996), chapter 9. (I do
not have a copy of the chapter. If someone does, please post).

Mescheryakov and his mentors converted traditional approaches to the
education of the blind-deaf into a long term, immersive life world that
made it possible to study development over the long term using principles
of cultural-historical psychology. The entire, artificial, world was
designed to be a zone of blizhayshi development.  The best and most
accessible account of this work that I know of can be found here:

http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/xmcamail.2010_04.dir/pdfaj3KKzidoJ.pdf

 mike






On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 8:18 AM Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Loved Peter's 2 min presentation on this! (thanks for doing those Anthony!)
>
> Also, has anyone written about ZoND (ZoNeD?) in terms of college students?
> I struggle with this daily as a teacher - trying to understand what the
> next stage of development is for college students and wondering to myself:
> What do my students actually NEED? (beyond the credential). Of course it
> isn't going to just be one thing. And it will surely be contested since, as
> Peter notes, the ZoND is responsive to the social and institutional
> contexts that come next. Nonetheless, it seems that there should be some
> broad strokes that we could sketch out in terms of Zone of Next Development
> for college students. Any pointers?
>
> -greg
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 8:34 AM Anthony Barra <anthonymbarra@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Forgive me if this is redundant.  Peter Smagorinsky has written
>> interestingly about *Butterflies*, with an emphasis on ZND vs ZPD, in
>> this short paper here:
>> "Deconflating the ZPD and instructional scaffolding: Retranslating and
>> reconceiving the zone of proximal development as the zone of next
>> development"
>> http://www.petersmagorinsky.net/About/PDF/LCSI/LCSI_2018.pdf
>>
>> And if anyone is interested, here is a brief, 2-minute clip of Peter
>> talking about the film and the ZND: "What is the Zone of Next Development?"
>> http://tiny.cc/1qi5kz
>>
>> Thanks ~
>> Anthony
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 6:15 AM JULIE WADDINGTON <
>> julie.waddington@udg.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, thank you *very* much for this Professor Cole. We'll be sure not
>>> to tell ANYONE :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *De:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu]
>>> en nom de Wagner Luiz Schmit [wagner.schmit@gmail.com]
>>> *Enviat el:* dimecres, 11 / març / 2020 11:05
>>> *Per a:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>>> *Tema:* [Xmca-l] Re: Butterfly found
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot Professor Cole!!!
>>>
>>> Wagner
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 9:19 PM mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Colleagues -
>>>>       Deep in the the unruly and unstable bowels of the lchc website,
>>>> too deep for google search to have penetrated it appears, is a copy of
>>>> Butterflies in English. There is a rumor from the archivist,
>>>> the ever-reliable Bruce Jones that is a copy of a 3/4" version from
>>>> long ago, but that cannot be confirmed.
>>>>      Below is the secret route. Be sure not to tell anyone.
>>>> mike
>>>>
>>>> http://lchc.ucsd.edu/Movies/Butterflies_of_Zagorsk.mp4
>>>> The copy is not great, but it's there.  bj
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> require the freedom to criticize and need critical impulses. Democracy
>>>> is
>>>> nothing less than defined by critique. T.Adorno
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
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