[Xmca-l] Re: Zagorsk and consciousness

[John Cripps Clark]

Interestingly, both Werner Herzog and Fedrick Wiseman, both prolific documentary fimmakes, have made documentaries about deaf blind people:

Herzog’s Land of Silence and Darkness about Fini Straubinger
And Wiseman’s Multi-handicapped about the Helen Keller School

John

From: <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu>
Reply-To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
Date: Monday, 9 March 2020 at 10:45 am
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Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Zagorsk and consciousness

Wagner, Peg et al -

There are several films here:
https://www.google.com/search?q=suvorov+blind&oq=suvorov+blind&aqs=chrome..69i57j0.6615j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

I believe that if you write to him, Sasha Suvorov would be glad to help.
He has continued to be an active scholar/activist in the Putin era.
If you reach him, say hello. :-)
mike




On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 4:22 PM Wagner Luiz Schmit <wagner.schmit@gmail.com<mailto:wagner.schmit@gmail.com>> wrote:
I have the Portuguese version, and it seems to be the only one available. The quality is very bad, you can't hear the dialogue sometimes, and the translation is bad to say the least. It is what I have been using in my classes in Brazil, but since it is dubbed in Portuguese I can't share it with non Portuguese speakers.

Wagner

On Sun, Mar 8, 2020, 18:39 Tom Richardson <tom.richardson3@googlemail.com<mailto:tom.richardson3@googlemail.com>> wrote:

Wagner Luiz - not good quality and in Portugese ????
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x24gaj1<https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x24gaj1>
TomRichardson

On Sun, 8 Mar 2020 at 15:00, Wagner Luiz Schmit <wagner.schmit@gmail.com<mailto:wagner.schmit@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear colleagues,

Did anybody else tried to replicate or something similar to the Meshcheryakov experiment at Zagorsk with deaf-blind children?

Is there any description of the process of education of deaf-blind born children?

And is there another discussion on the problem of consciousness in CHAT besides the works of Bakhurst and Mikhailov? Specially taking into account new discoveries in the field of neurology like those described in the book "The conscious instinct" by Michael Gazzaniga?

And if anyone has the documentary "Butterflies of Zagorsk" by bbc in good quality, please let me know.

Wagner



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