[Xmca-l] Re: Your views on a question.
Andy Blunden
andyb@marxists.org
Tue Jun 23 18:36:43 PDT 2020
Casting collective efforts at self-determination as "victim
mentality" or "self pity" has long been a line of right-wing
criticism of progressive movements. Of all people, Paulo
Freire is the last to be guilty of such a sin though; his
pedagogy is aimed specifically, like Myles Horton's, at
stimulating and equipping people from being victims to
self-determination. There is such a thing as a politics of
pity though; it is called philanthropy and charity.
Andy
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On 24/06/2020 9:11 am, Alfredo Jornet Gil wrote:
>
> thanks S’ma; among the many philosophy of science scholars
> who discuss what rigorous scientific and scholarship are
> or can be, your choice—a video critiquing critical theory
> in terms of what Lindsay refers to as “grievance
> studies”–is indeed surprising and remarkable in the
> context of this conversation!
>
> In the video, which did not so much touch my small Marxist
> me (I am not so well read so as to know how much of a
> Marxist I am!), Lindsay mentions Paolo Freire’s Pedagogy
> of the Oppressed as an example of “critical social
> justice” books, which he defines as “a codified way to
> indulge people into self pity…”(min. 47:50). He complains
> that teachers are being educated with Freire’s book, and
> that students are being taught with this critical (or, as
> Lindsay’s says, this self-pity) attitude. Without going
> into whether Lindsay’s critique holds or has any touch
> with what critical theory scholars argue and do, I wonder,
> what would be, from Lindsay’s position, an example of a
> good book for teachers, and why would that one be it?
>
> Alfredo
>
> *From: *<xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of
> Martin Packer <mpacker@cantab.net>
> *Reply to: *"eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> *Date: *Tuesday, 23 June 2020 at 23:54
> *To: *"eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> *Subject: *[Xmca-l] Re: Your views on a question.
>
> Hi Simangele,
>
> How are you evaluating “level of mental functioning”? I
> would say that is something with which psychology has had
> some difficulty.
>
> Martin
>
> /"I may say that whenever I meet Mrs. Seligman or Dr.
> Lowie or discuss matters with Radcliffe-Brown or Kroeber,
> I become at once aware that my partner does not understand
> anything in the matter, and I end usually with the feeling
> that this also applies to myself” (Malinowski, 1930)/
>
>
>
> On Jun 23, 2020, at 4:32 PM, Simangele Mayisela
> <simangele.mayisela@wits.ac.za
> <mailto:simangele.mayisela@wits.ac.za>> wrote:
>
> Further, I still have more questions, however it does
> appear to me that at the heart of the “hypothesis” of
> the scientific question are the “levels” of mental
> development which are associated to “skin colour”,
> with little consideration of the historical oppression
> that created the “backwards” economies that keep the
> third of the global population is what appears to be
> of low level of mental functioning. The question is
> more about “what is the quality of the contents of
> what is embodies by the black skin or a white skin?”
> with the aim to find evidence for the difference.
>
> Just to share, lately have been viewing James Lindsay
> argument on what is “scientific”, “rigorous
> scientific” and “scholarship” vs popular narratives
> that are a propaganda based on Critical Theory, which
> are taking over academy. Here is one his videos that
> you may want to view – if you are Marxist at heart be
> warned that you may be challenged by Lindsay’s
> argument on ideologies.
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N55gFjg4yg__;!!Mih3wA!WCK45j6Y4AscTY1OVN1quxD0_VDKtR1Y9u5SYoUgfTIzhGpvyRCeU6XnFqBCRER8K_5qdw$
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N55gFjg4yg__;!!Mih3wA!V2LYI2I2g-qSP--eE84G38eGWBud9YwatVDWX1IvY27YgsR7kTdkqVGDNoLNCYNmswIv-Q$>
>
> Regards
>
> S’ma
>
> *From:*Simangele Mayisela
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 June 2020 22:10
> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>>
> *Subject:* RE: [Xmca-l] Re: Your views on a question.
>
> Dear Alfredo
>
> Thank you for taking my attention of “level” which is
> crucial to rendering the question “scientific”. But
> couple with level, which could be quantifies as “high”
> and “low” or “superior” or “inferior” would account
> for “difference”. As much as the question to be asked
> should be about the “ideological basis” , I think the
> “hypothesis” is likely to be linked to the “ideolody”
> as the hypothesis serves as springboard from which the
> scientist works from, which informs where the person
> will land in terms of the ideas.
>
> Nevertheless thank you for the clarification. I see
> what you mean ?
>
> Regards,
>
> S’ma
>
> *From:*xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
> <mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
> <mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>> *On Behalf
> Of *Alfredo Jornet Gil
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 June 2020 20:51
> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>>
> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: Your views on a question.
>
> Dear S’ma,
>
> I am not sure anyone could provide that “scientific”
> basis without first explaining what is meant by
> “level,” and most importantly, why and how such
> explanation should be relevant to account for
> historical relations across cultures/societies,
> specially relations of oppression. I understand your
> curiosity, though, which is why I feel it is important
> to be very clear about this issue and not let it
> unfold as if this was simply an adequate scientific or
> philosophical research question. Given all that we
> know from history and more precisely from political
> economy, the important discussion is not about the
> scientific basis of that affirmation, but about its
> **ideological** basis: what sort of ideological
> inquiry is set forth by posing that question in the
> context of this thread and of this moment in history?
> There can be no question that there are and there were
> differences between the socioeconomic formations of
> different cultures and that such cultures were local,
> not global or international. So, the problem is not
> finding the “scientific” basis but the how and why
> that question is being raised. I hope this makes sense
> to all of you, does it?
>
> Alfredo
>
> *From: *<xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
> <mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>> on behalf of
> Simangele Mayisela <simangele.mayisela@wits.ac.za
> <mailto:simangele.mayisela@wits.ac.za>>
> *Reply to: *"eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>>
> *Date: *Tuesday, 23 June 2020 at 19:57
> *To: *"eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>>
> *Subject: *[Xmca-l] Re: Your views on a question.
>
> Friends!
>
> I am curious to read more about the scientific basis
> of the “the difference in the level of /the mental
> socioeconomic formation/ between the two.” Can
> colleagues be kind to provide scientific sources of
> this difference.
>
> Regards,
>
> S’ma
>
> *From:*xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
> <mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
> <mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>> *On Behalf
> Of *White, Phillip
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 June 2020 14:08
> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>>
> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: Your views on a question.
>
> This is horribly troubling
>
> Racist eugenics
>
> Please stop
>
> Phillip
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 23, 2020, at 5:40 AM, Harshad Dave
> <hhdave15@gmail.com <mailto:hhdave15@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Prof. David,
>
> Your message reads...
>
> "I think racist filth, devoid of any scientific
> understanding and without a shred of scientific
> basis, should not be distributed anywhere. It
> certainly does not belong on this list."
>
> I request you to go through the following points
> carefully. Perhaps, you might catch the sound of
> my saying.
>
> Point 1
>
> If my views on the subject matter impress anyone
> that it is a distribution of the racist filth, I
> think they (my views) are grasped with a great
> misunderstanding.
>
> Whenever any unpleasant event happens (like the
> unfortunate death of Floyd or else) between
> black/brown and white, the attitude and mindset of
> racism in the event is discussed by all as if the
> color of the skin is responsible for it….. as if
> it is founded on the color of the skin.
>
> Here I disagree and simply say…. Basically it is
> not the cause of color of the skin but it (the
> cause) harbors in the difference in the level of
> /the mental socioeconomic formation/ between the two.
>
> Nowhere I ever said, no where I supported, no
> where I believed that *“it is justified”*.
>
> Please, try to understand me….
>
> “Whether racism should be there OR it should not
> be there”
>
> OR
>
> “If it is justified OR not justified”
>
> is not the subject matter of my saying. I just say
> the cause of the said “filth” does not lie in the
> color of the skin but it lies in the above
> mentioned “Level difference”.
>
> Point 2
>
> You have reproduced a small paragraph from my doc
> file that I attached in my previous message.
>
> If I am not mistaken to understand the essence of
> the saying in your message, I think you pointed out…
>
> “The views that I presented in the subject
> paragraph do not have /scientific understanding/
> and /scientific basis/.”
>
> I agree with you that while writing my subject
> views I have never searched if they have
> scientific support as above. I believe… /an
> outcome of contemplation/ and /a logical
> compliance/ are the supports and justifications of
> any /thinker/ to present his views.
>
> If people (readers) accept the views no research
> paper is needed to support them. When a thinker is
> asked to present scientific support for his views
> I fear doors of philosophical works will get shut
> down. I have not claimed the views are /rules/ and
> /laws/. If readers do not agree with them, the
> views automatically will become null and void.
>
> Regards,
>
> Harshad Dave
>
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 3:27 PM Mary van der Riet
> <VanDerRiet@ukzn.ac.za
> <mailto:VanDerRiet@ukzn.ac.za>> wrote:
>
> I agree
>
> /Mary van der Riet (Phd), Associate Professor/
>
> /Discipline of Psychology, School of Applied
> Human Sciences, College of
> Humanities, University of KwaZulu-Natal, South
> Africa/
>
> /email: vanderriet@ukzn.ac.za
> <mailto:vanderriet@ukzn.ac.za>
> tel: +27 33 260 6163/
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
> <mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
> <mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>> on
> behalf of David Kellogg <dkellogg60@gmail.com
> <mailto:dkellogg60@gmail.com>>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 June 2020 02:32
> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu
> <mailto:xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>>
> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: Your views on a question.
>
> Dear Mr. Dave:
>
> I think racist filth, devoid of any scientific
> understanding and without a shred of
> scientific basis, should not be
> distributed anywhere. It certainly does not
> belong on this list.
>
> "Who were the black people that Europeans
> brought with them? They were living in
> primitive habitations in Africa with very
> primitive socio economic formation. Their
> forefathers have never passed through the ups
> and downs in last 3000 years comparable to the
> lessons European people learned and sustained
> with and ever before that. The development of
> brain threads of the black people and
> structure of their DNA are in compliance with
> the pattern of life their forefathers passed
> through in Africa and its status was in line
> with the socio economic formation in which
> they lived when they were forcibly kidnapped
> as slaves by European people and their agents.
> Generally we talk about apartheid but it is
> complex issue. We never give consideration to
> this fact of difference in brain thread net
> work and structure of DNA and consequential
> difficulties people of both the sides face
> while they have to interact with each others."
>
>
> David Kellogg
>
> Sangmyung University
>
> New Article: Ruqaiya Hasan, in memoriam: A
> manual and a manifesto.
>
> Outlines, Spring 2020
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://tidsskrift.dk/outlines/article/view/116238__;!!Mih3wA!WCK45j6Y4AscTY1OVN1quxD0_VDKtR1Y9u5SYoUgfTIzhGpvyRCeU6XnFqBCRERMYCX-7Q$
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>
> New Translation with Nikolai Veresov: /L.S.
> Vygotsky's Pedological Works/ /Volume One:
> Foundations of Pedology/"
>
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>
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 1:53 PM Harshad Dave
> <hhdave15@gmail.com
> <mailto:hhdave15@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
> David—
>
> Your message addressed to Anthony
> impresses me that you have reached a
> conclusion in haste and prematurely about
> my concepts/views. Perhaps it might be due
> to weakness/error in the presentation of
> my views. Here I put three points to
> express myself.
>
> *Point 1:*
>
> When I contemplate on the issue of racism
> (discrimination between two sets of people
> from different origin), I temporarily
> suspend my feelings/sentiments founded on
> /philosophy of humanity/ to work on the
> issue impartially. I appeal to all friends
> to come out from that cocoon if they want
> to have a transparent vision on the
> subject issue.
>
> If anyone believes that the anatomy of the
> subject issue might be discovered by
> mounting one leg on the horse of our
> /sentiments and emotions on humanitarian
> concepts/ and second leg on the horse of
> /facts of/ /the prevailing social
> constitution of latest socio economic
> formation, /I think he will never succeed
> in his task.
>
> *Point 2:*
>
> Here below, I attach one
> doc file....title--- “Where the shoe
> pinches?” I request you to read the points
> discussed there on this subject matter on
> page 28 as the article is very long.
>
> [Go to page 28 and it starts – “It is not
> necessary that there should be two
> separate nations or habitations with
> different levels of socio economic
> formations and both………….”
>
> It ends at page no. 35 – “………. prejudice
> and partiality, but it is mandatory that
> they must have all the abilities to secure
> their right of enjoyment through their
> abilities only.”]
>
> The fact that is discussed in the above
> mentioned text cannot be overlooked with
> our /justice and good conscience/.
>
> *Point 3:*
>
> As concluded by David,
>
> “……but it seems to me that Mr. Dave is
> trying to reinterpret events in the USA
> using concepts……”
>
> I say he has misunderstood me. I do agree
> that the social constitution in India is
> influencedby “cast culture” but there are
> people who might think and analyze issues
> pertaining to social science and economics
> remaining out of the cocoon of “cast culture”.
>
> Regards,
>
> Harshad Dave
>
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 4:26 AM David
> Kellogg <dkellogg60@gmail.com
> <mailto:dkellogg60@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Anthony--
>
> I think Annalisa knows more about this
> than I do, but it seems to me that Mr.
> Dave is trying to reinterpret events
> in the USA using concepts that are
> related to the ancient Hindu system of
> caste. Castes are not races (they are
> even less tied to pigmentation than
> race), and they are certainly not
> classes (they are reproduced by
> marriage and the family rather than by
> relations of production): I suppose
> they are something like kinship groups
> that are tied for historical as well
> as religious reasons to particular
> professions. Because they are
> emphasized in religion (and more
> recently in India's communal politics)
> they can certainly be said to be
> "socio-mental" in quality. Somehow I
> don't think that this is what Andy has
> in mind when he says that cultural
> artefacts bring the WHOLE of culture
> into interpersonal interaction and
> suspend the distinction between social
> theory and psychology!
>
>
> David Kellogg
>
> Sangmyung University
>
> New Article: Ruqaiya Hasan, in
> memoriam: A manual and a manifesto.
>
> Outlines, Spring 2020
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://tidsskrift.dk/outlines/article/view/116238__;!!Mih3wA!WCK45j6Y4AscTY1OVN1quxD0_VDKtR1Y9u5SYoUgfTIzhGpvyRCeU6XnFqBCRERMYCX-7Q$
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>
> New Translation with Nikolai Veresov:
> /L.S. Vygotsky's Pedological Works/
> /Volume One: Foundations of Pedology/"
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9789811505270__;!!Mih3wA!WCK45j6Y4AscTY1OVN1quxD0_VDKtR1Y9u5SYoUgfTIzhGpvyRCeU6XnFqBCRESXToHWyw$
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>
> On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 8:24 PM
> Anthony Barra <anthonymbarra@gmail.com
> <mailto:anthonymbarra@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Sorry, I have no idea what you're
> talking about here, although my
> sense is that it's wildly wrong,
> in various ways. I am confused but
> hope you have a nice day, regardless.
>
> Anthony
>
>
> On Sunday, June 21, 2020, Harshad
> Dave <hhdave15@gmail.com
> <mailto:hhdave15@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
> Atten.: Anthony Barra and
> David Kellog.
>
> Hi,
>
> This is with reference to your
> replies to my message. I am
> thankful for the same and
> regret for the delay in reply.
> I used the word “apartheid”
> just in the sense of racism,
> complains of blacks/brown that
> they are discriminated in
> social dealing by whites etc.
> David Kellog - Thanks for the
> detail source of the word
> “apartheid”, however I request
> you to take its meaning in the
> same sense as expressed above.
> The suggested/recommended
> articles are viewed in a
> glancing by me; I recall I
> have read them (one or more)
> on Academia web. You will
> agree their subject matter is
> different. Anthony Barra – The
> article that was recommended
> by you is read by me and it
> touches on various realities
> in the subject matter of our
> topic.
>
> I just put my views against
> the question I asked in my
> message dtd. 17 June 2020.
>
> There are two most probable
> answers.
>
> 1.The turned out black
> European people will be the
> victim of racism
> (discrimination) by the turned
> out white people from African
> origin.
>
> 2.The situation remains the
> same and the world will see
> protests and fights on an
> issue or against a complaining
> that the black European people
> discriminate white people of
> African origin in the USA.
>
> I leave it to the readers to
> give their logical
> consideration to the one out
> of the above two, but my
> opinion says the second answer
> will hold good, but one should
> not forget it is just true on
> hypothetical presumption.
>
> It is a mistake to believe
> that /the attitude of
> discrimination/ and /sickness
> of racism /harbor in the color
> of the skin. In fact above
> altitude/sickness is founded
> on the difference of */mental
> socio economic formation
> status/* of two men. There is
> a basic difference between the
> two statuses of /mental socio
> economic formation /of black
> people of African origin and
> that of white people of
> European origin. I believe
> that a mass of people
> constituting a society with
> advanced socio economic
> formation has fair chances to
> exploit the mass of people
> constituting a society with
> backward socio economic
> formation. It is equally true
> for two classes of peoples at
> different /mental socio
> economic formation status/
> also. But, here (in the USA)
> both the classes of people are
> living in the same society
> with one /constitution/ and
> uniform /rule of laws/. It is
> absurd to believe that the
> present socio economic
> formation of the society of
> the USA (21^st century) has
> prevailed and occupied equally
> and uniformly by each and
> every citizen of the USA. One
> might find various people in
> the present society of the USA
> with different levels of
> /mental socio economic
> formation status/. It is
> really a complicated situation
> when the society is throughout
> with the latest socio economic
> formation and members of the
> society are with varying
> levels of /mental socio
> economic formation status/ in
> the same society. Let me
> present part of the message of
> Abraham Lincoln before I
> finish this message.
>
> Fourth Debate: Charleston,
> Illinois – September 18, 1858.
>
> “/I will say then that I am
> not, nor ever have been, in
> favor of bringing about in any
> way the social and political
> equality of the white and
> black races, [applause]-that I
> am not nor ever have been in
> favor of making voters or
> jurors of negroes, nor of
> qualifying them to hold
> office, nor to intermarry with
> white people; and I will say
> in addition to this that there
> is a physical difference
> between the white and black
> races which I believe will
> forever forbid the two races
> living together on terms of
> social and political equality.
> And inasmuch as they cannot so
> live, while they do remain
> together there must be the
> position of superior and
> inferior, and I as much as any
> other man am in favor of
> having the superior position
> assigned to the white race. I
> say upon this occasion I do
> not perceive that because the
> white man is to have the
> superior position the negro
> should be denied everything./”
>
> Here it is between the lines
> that difference in the /mental
> socio economic formation
> status/could be compensated to
> some extent, but for equality
> people with backward /mental
> socio economic formation
> status/will have to work hard
> to develop the same.
>
> I clarify, neither I am in
> favor of nor against the
> victims of the issue of
> discrimination and racism as
> far as my contemplation on the
> subject matter is to be
> carried out. But, I just want
> to explain where the real
> cause harbors.
>
> Regards,
>
> Harshad Dave
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 6:01
> PM David Kellogg
> <dkellogg60@gmail.com
> <mailto:dkellogg60@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Dear Harshad:
>
> I am still a little
> stunned by the last post
> you wrote, with all the
> references to predatory
> shopkeepers. It sounded
> like the stuff of a
> pogrom. As we discussed in
> the "My Hometown
> Minneapolis" thread, the
> threats to shopkeepers in
> Minneapolis often targeted
> South Asians, and had
> nothing to do with the
> police (except that the
> police may have been
> involved and certainly
> profitted from the looting
> politically).
>
> "Apartheid" is a term
> invented by the South
> African sociologist
> Verwoerd, who studied with
> the Gestalists. Some
> Gestaltists, like Narziss
> Ach and Felix Krueger,
> became Nazis; Verwoerd
> himself became, as you
> probably know, prime
> minister of South Africa
> and brought in the system
> of apartheid which Gandhi
> struggled against during
> his early years. The term
> used in my hometown
> Minneapolis is not
> "apartheid" but
> segregation: it is
> euphemistically referred
> to as "redlining" (by
> insurance companies) and
> "racial covenants" but not
> as "apartheid".
>
> Segregation and Jim Crow
> in Minneapolis is not
> based on pigmentation.
> Many "white" people are
> darker than blacks, and
> many black people are
> lighter than whites,
> because of the centuries
> of rape and the
> enthusiasm of slave owners
> for the practice of
> selling their own
> children. The last time I
> visited the "housing
> project"near where I grew
> up it was full of Hmong
> from Southeast Asia.
> Segregation in Minneapolis
> is above all a matter of
> class.
>
>
> David Kellogg
>
> Sangmyung University
>
> New Article: Ruqaiya
> Hasan, in memoriam: A
> manual and a manifesto.
>
> Outlines, Spring 2020
>
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> New Translation with
> Nikolai Veresov: /L.S.
> Vygotsky's Pedological
> Works/ /Volume One:
> Foundations of Pedology/"
>
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>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at
> 4:16 PM Harshad Dave
> <hhdave15@gmail.com
> <mailto:hhdave15@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Dear all there,
>
> We all are aware of
> the event of the death
> of George Floyd in the
> USA under police
> custody. There are
> flows of opinions,
> comments and views on
> the event with
> different aspects all
> over the world. There
> are debates and
> discussions on the
> event on innumerable
> web sites, we find
> them in newspapers and
> among the talks of
> people at private and
> public places. We just
> do not talk about
> riots and other events
> happened under agony
> and out burst of anger
> on the unfortunate
> death of Floyd,
> however, voice against
> apartheid was the
> major cry behind them.
>
> Though there are
> various vital aspects
> of the event,
> */apartheid/* remained
> prime of them.
>
> I simply ask one
> question to my friends
> who read this post.
>
> Let us
> hypothetically presume,
> on one day fine
> morning, when people
> of the USA awake, they
> find that skin color
> of all the blacks is
> changed to perfectly
> white like european
> people and the skin
> color of all the
> europeans changed to
> black like negro.
>
> I ask my friends,
> "What will be the
> status of
> */apartheid/* in this
> situation?"
>
> NB: I write one
> article on the ill
> fated event and its
> aspects. Your views on
> the above question
> will help me to write
> my views with more
> clarity in the article.
>
> Regards,
>
> Harshad Dave
>
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