[Xmca-l] Re: useful psychology?

[mike cole]

Might you be looking for “psychotechnics” Andy?
Mike

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 7:35 PM David Kellogg <dkellogg60@gmail.com> wrote:

> Andy--
>
> That really doesn't sound like Vygotsky to me.
>
> Yes, he refers to art as the "social technique of emotion" (Psychology of
> Art). Yes, he did experiments on reading "Gentle Breath" to see if Bunin's
> short story had any affect on breathing rates. But as far as I know he had
> nothing to do with Luria's work on lie detectors (in The Nature of Human
> Conflict), and he was even rather skeptical of Luria's work on optical
> illusions in "uneducated" peoples
>
> . Remember, this is the guy who denied that a general psychology could
> ever cut itself off from practice and vice versa (History of the Crisis in
> Psychology), who rejected the idea that thinking is speech with the sound
> turned off (Thinking and Speech). Besides, who ever heard of a technology
> opposed to an epistemology? What would that mean? A hand without a brain?
>
> Vygotsky sounds more like this: "Neither the hand nor the brain left to
> itself can do much."  Francis Bacon, *Novum Organum* (1620), Book 1,
> Aphorism 2.
>
> David Kellogg
> Sangmyung University
>
> New Article: 'Commentary: On the originality of Vygotsky's "Thought and
> Word" i
> in *Mind Culture and Activity*
>
> *https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10749039.2020.1711775
> <https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10749039.2020.1711775>*
> Some free e-prints available at:
>
> https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/SK2DR3TYBMJ42MFPYRFY/full?target=10.1080/10749039.2020.1711775
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 11:49 AM Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org> wrote:
>
>> There's somewhere where Vygotsky talks about psychology as a technology
>> as opposed to (for example) an epistemology. Can anyone point me to where
>> this observation is to be found. I can find it with my search engines. I
>> think Vygotsky and Luria's invention of the lie-detector has been mentioned
>> in this connection.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>
>> --
>> ------------------------------
>> *Andy Blunden*
>> Hegel for Social Movements <https://brill.com/view/title/54574>
>> Home Page <https://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm>
>>
> --
 fiction is but a form of symbolic action, a mere game of “as if”, therein
lies its true   function and its potential for effecting change - R. Ellison
---------------------------------------------------
For archival resources relevant to the research of myself and other members
of LCHC, visit
lchc.ucsd.edu.  For a narrative history of the research of LCHC, visit
lchcautobio.ucsd.edu.
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://mailman.ucsd.edu/pipermail/xmca-l/attachments/20200114/a42b3361/attachment.html