[Xmca-l] Re: Just Published: L.S. Vygotsky's Pedological Works Vol. 1

Sat Jan 4 11:37:19 PST 2020

Hi Michael,
Thank you very much for these most interesting comments and for this information.
I can see the risk of balkanisation... I would like to hope that it will be overcome in some way.
Yes, all these publications, including pedology , are precious steps ahead.
I am looking forward to the special issue prepared with the French. Nice event.
Best greetings,
Anne-Nelly

Le 4 janv. 2020 à 20:02, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> a écrit :

Hi Ann Nelly et al  --

We have never been hassled on lchc-related sites, including xmca. We have declared several times
and in several places that xmca is an EDUCATIONAL discussion group and that papers/chapters posted
there are for educational use. Either that has protected us or it is the extreme esoteric and trivial nature of the chat-ing
that has spared us.

I am not sure why Pedology would be subject to difficulties.  The USSR did not join the copyright agreement until
1973 .. a fact that made possible, financially, the publications of the 1920's and later, critical, decades of Soviet
cultural-historical work.

Note how much is allowed on Research Gate and Academia.
And note that there is an excellent e-book of many books, including Cultural Psych book, floating around the internet.
I got mine free!

Still very porous, but the fractionation of the internet will probably re-balkanize communication and bring it under
the kind of direct local control exercised by the Chinese, now the Russian, and several other country.

Its a big deal to me that The Pedology has been published. It makes sense of the way that Vygotsky's students
distributed various parts of it around many publications in journals and book chapters. And hence influenced the way
that these works were appropriated abroad. In the fullness of time there will be a special issue of MCA devoted to French colleagues have interpreted this important work.

Back to the future again again!
mike

mike

On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 8:00 AM PERRET-CLERMONT Anne-Nelly <Anne-Nelly.Perret-Clermont@unine.ch<mailto:Anne-Nelly.Perret-Clermont@unine.ch>> wrote:
Dear David, Dear Andy,
Andy's publications in open access are so useful. Without disclosing private details nor entering into the specifics of precise cases, could you help by making us aware of the unforeseen risks of making stuff free on the internet ? ( I ask the question because I read below: "Somebody is going to sue you eventually (apply to Andy for details on this)").
Thanks
Anne-Nelly Perret-Clermont
University of Neuchâtel

Le 3 janv. 2020 à 23:12, David Kellogg <dkellogg60@gmail.com<mailto:dkellogg60@gmail.com>> a écrit :

Wagner--

Nikolai and I did make all the material which we ourselves wrote available for free. All you have to do is click the free previews and the front and endmatter,and you'll get a free pdf. The free previews will tell you, in summary form, what the actual lecture says, and you can decide whether it's worth the money to be able to cite chapter and verse.

But I can think of a lot of good reasons for publishing with Springer.

a) Springer have been around a while--they were founded when Marx was just getting started in journalism and Vygotsky cites a lot of their Gestalist books--hopefully they will last longer than, say, the Soviet publishing house Vygotsky used did. (The Russian university press that published the first version of the lectures back in 2001 is now bankrupt and has disappeared without a trace!)
b) Springer are very much part of the academic market here in East Asia (they aren't in Singapore for the cheap labour!)
c) Springer have an aggressive line in e-books, which are the main mode for literacy on my commute to work these days. (Even in illiterate England, Paul McCartney says he can ride the London tube now because everybody is too busy looking up his picture on Google images to notice the original sitting next to them).
d) Yelena Kravtsova is on the editorial board of the cultural-historical research series, (She has some claim to the rights to Vygotsky's work, according to the lawyers.)
e) Springer stocks libraries.

I can also think of three good reasons for not making stuff free on the internet.

a) Somebody is going to sue you eventually (apply to Andy for details on this).
b) It's too confusing for readers to sort out the chaff from the grain these days.
c) It's gonna happen anyway.

Actually, the main reason we chose Springer was the same reason that one chooses a wife, husband, or more temporary partner even though they too might just be hungry.

Everybody out there was taking no risks and saying no. Springer was willing to take a chance and say yes.

David Kellogg
Sangmyung University

New article with Fang Li:
"How do novels hang together? Characterization as registerial meta-stability"
Text & Talk

https://www.degruyter.com/view/j/text.ahead-of-print/text-2019-2051/text-2019-2051.xml

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 9:04 PM Wagner Luiz Schmit <wagner.schmit@gmail.com<mailto:wagner.schmit@gmail.com>> wrote:
We have this in Portuguese, and cheap. Very very interesting material presenting another unit of analysis.

Seriously, why we as Marxists insists on publishing with money hunger corporations, for-profit publishers and so on?

Wagner

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 8:11 AM David Kellogg <dkellogg60@gmail.com<mailto:dkellogg60@gmail.com>> wrote:

This is a pretty slim volume, and it's expensive. But if you click on the free preview and the chapter summaries, you can get a pretty good idea of what you (or your library) will be paying for.

https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9789811505270

I'm afraid that even the ebook is expensive:

https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007%2F978-981-15-0528-7

But this is free!

https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/bfm%3A978-981-15-0528-7%2F1.pdf

and so is this:

https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/bbm%3A978-981-15-0528-7%2F1.pdf

David Kellogg
Sangmyung University

New article with Fang Li:
"How do novels hang together? Characterization as registerial meta-stability"
Text & Talk

https://www.degruyter.com/view/j/text.ahead-of-print/text-2019-2051/text-2019-2051.xml

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