[Xmca-l] Re: Just Published: L.S. Vygotsky's Pedological Works Vol. 1

[Wagner Luiz Schmit]

Dear Kellog,

I deeply admire your work, along with Professor Veresov and Professor
Kravtsova. Really. If this looked like a personal attack, please know it
was not. I myself published my paper on a Journal by SAGE Publishing in
2016 (not publishing much since Brazilian academia now is almost dead). I
know how this market works: We work for free (writing, revising and
editing) but get published and they make lots of money selling with
overpricing to libraries.

I read some opinions stating that this publishing model more hinders than
helps science. And does copyright (not authorship) makes any sense in a
Cultural-Historical framework?

Disney changed the copyright laws to protect its assets many times (the
irony is that they made fame and money with public domain material).

And you point out another big problem today in Academia: how to grade
published materials? With more and more super narrow fields the
"double-blind review" is just a label and does not work. We all know the
problems of evaluating a paper or journal by the number of quotations. The
quote was to criticize or to support? How many of the quotes are from the
same "circle"?

Yeah, I know, we have bills to pay, we live in a publish or perish culture,
Universities do not have good quality science as their main focus, the
spread of information is not interesting for our capitalist society model
and so on.

What can we do to change this? In what way? Open Journals? Sci-Hub? Private
sharing?

Isn't produce a paper a "production"? Should not we change it?

Again: I deeply admire all the efforts to make Vygotsky's works available
in some way, but is there any other way?

Wagner


On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 7:11 PM David Kellogg <dkellogg60@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wagner--
>
> Nikolai and I did make all the material which we ourselves wrote available
> for free. All you have to do is click the free previews and the front and
> endmatter,and you'll get a free pdf. The free previews will tell you, in
> summary form, what the actual lecture says, and you can decide whether it's
> worth the money to be able to cite chapter and verse.
>
> But I can think of a lot of good reasons for publishing with Springer.
>
> a) Springer have been around a while--they were founded when Marx was just
> getting started in journalism and Vygotsky cites a lot of their Gestalist
> books--hopefully they will last longer than, say, the Soviet publishing
> house Vygotsky used did. (The Russian university press that published the
> first version of the lectures back in 2001 is now bankrupt and has
> disappeared without a trace!)
> b) Springer are very much part of the academic market here in East Asia
> (they aren't in Singapore for the cheap labour!)
> c) Springer have an aggressive line in e-books, which are the main mode
> for literacy on my commute to work these days. (Even in illiterate England,
> Paul McCartney says he can ride the London tube now because everybody is
> too busy looking up his picture on Google images to notice the original
> sitting next to them).
> d) Yelena Kravtsova is on the editorial board of the cultural-historical
> research series, (She has some claim to the rights to Vygotsky's work,
> according to the lawyers.)
> e) Springer stocks libraries.
>
> I can also think of three good reasons for not making stuff free on the
> internet.
>
> a) Somebody is going to sue you eventually (apply to Andy for details on
> this).
> b) It's too confusing for readers to sort out the chaff from the grain
> these days.
> c) It's gonna happen anyway.
>
> Actually, the main reason we chose Springer was the same reason that one
> chooses a wife, husband, or more temporary partner even though they too
> might just be hungry.
>
> Everybody out there was taking no risks and saying no. Springer
> was willing to take a chance and say yes.
>
> David Kellogg
> Sangmyung University
>
> New article with Fang Li:
> "How do novels hang together? Characterization as registerial
> meta-stability"
> Text & Talk
>
>
> https://www.degruyter.com/view/j/text.ahead-of-print/text-2019-2051/text-2019-2051.xml
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 9:04 PM Wagner Luiz Schmit <wagner.schmit@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> We have this in Portuguese, and cheap. Very very interesting material
>> presenting another unit of analysis.
>>
>> Seriously, why we as Marxists insists on publishing with money hunger
>> corporations, for-profit publishers and so on?
>>
>> Wagner
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 8:11 AM David Kellogg <dkellogg60@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is a pretty slim volume, and it's expensive. But if you click on
>>> the free preview and the chapter summaries, you can get a pretty good idea
>>> of what you (or your library) will be paying for.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9789811505270
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm afraid that even the ebook is expensive:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007%2F978-981-15-0528-7
>>>
>>>
>>> But this is free!
>>>
>>>
>>> https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/bfm%3A978-981-15-0528-7%2F1.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>> and so is this:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/bbm%3A978-981-15-0528-7%2F1.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>> David Kellogg
>>> Sangmyung University
>>>
>>> New article with Fang Li:
>>> "How do novels hang together? Characterization as registerial
>>> meta-stability"
>>> Text & Talk
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.degruyter.com/view/j/text.ahead-of-print/text-2019-2051/text-2019-2051.xml
>>>
>>>
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