[Xmca-l] Re: Critic of revisionism

[David Kellogg]

De bona gana, Alberto. Not least because the published version (the eprints
are still available below my signature) suffered some last-minute
compression, for the which I received a somewhat irate letter from Rene
himself. Interestingly, though, neither Rene nor Professor Zavershneva
really addressed the argument about Vygotsky's originality. The argument
about originality--not the argument about sourcing or plagiarism--was
the crux of their article and also of mine.

I think it's possible for the discussion to degenerate into "Vygotsky was a
plagiarist" vs. "No he wasn't!". That is, actually, what a lot of the
discussion over Bakhtin's work amounts to, and such a discussion would be
more than a little anachronistic, because the sourcing conventions we now
respect today did not exist then.  But I also think the discussion of
"Vygotsky was not an original thinker" vs. "Yes he was" is well worth
having.

First of all, it is at the very heart of whether what he founded was a
genuine collective enterprise (in which we all can have a part) or simply,
as Anton likes to say, "a heroic cult" (in which case the pyramid we are
building is not a mountain but a tomb). Secondly, it raises all kinds of
genuinely fruitful issues, like the one we were having just yesterday in
John Cripps Clark's CHAR reading group in Melbourne on how Vygotsky
developed the ordinary word Russian "perezhivanie" (which, as Lloyd Martin
cracked, is really everyday Russian for "I got the blues!") into a unit of
analysis for the ontogenesis of consciousness.

So I'm attaching the penultimate version, which is slightly less compressed
(word limits are a buzz-kill, but they do make life bearable for the
reader). I wonder, actually, if Rene or Professor Zavershneva might want to
vouchsafe a reply....

David Kellogg
Sangmyung University

New Article: 'Commentary: On the originality of Vygotsky's "Thought and
Word" i
in *Mind Culture and Activity*
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10749039.2020.1711775
Some free e-prints available at:
https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/SK2DR3TYBMJ42MFPYRFY/full?target=10.1080/10749039.2020.1711775

New Translation with Nikolai Veresov: "L.S. Vygotsky's Pedological Works
Volume One: Foundations of Pedology"

 https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9789811505270



On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 5:58 AM Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@ils.uio.no>
wrote:

> Yes, David Kellogg has just published a paper in MCA where he addresses
> some of the revisionist stance in relation to questions on Vygotsky’s
> originality in Thinking and Speech, particularly chapter 7. The published
> version can be accessed here
> https://www.tandfonline.com/toc/hmca20/27/1?nav=tocList (Issue 1 2020).
> The editorial is open access and summarizes very shortly the paper; David,
> perhaps you’d like to share the full published version in the list?
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> Alfredo
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> *From: *<xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of Wagner Luiz Schmit
> <wagner.schmit@gmail.com>
> *Reply to: *"eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 26 February 2020 at 19:59
> *To: *"eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> *Subject: *[Xmca-l] Re: Critic of revisionism
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> Thank you a lot Professor Cole!
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> Wagner
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> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 3:33 PM mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:
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> I believe that David Kellogg has a paper in MCA with comments on the
> revisionist vygotsky studies work.
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> mike
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> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 9:33 AM Haydi Zulfei <haydizulfei@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Dear Wagner,
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> This is a google translation which for me is understandable.
>
> Haydi
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> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 5:47 PM Wagner Luiz Schmit <
> wagner.schmit@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Dear colleagues,
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> I stumbled on this article today:
> https://www.academia.edu/42048817/On_revisionism_in_Vygotskian_science._Commentary_on_In_August_of_1941_by_Yasnitsky_and_Lamdan_2017_?email_work_card=view-paper
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> On the academia.edu page there is an English abstract, but since the
> paper is in Russian I can't read it and get to know the details.
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> If anyone knows of a translation or want to make some highlights and
> comments, I would appreciate a lot!
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> Wagner
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> UNIRP
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> UNESP
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> require the freedom to criticize and need critical impulses. Democracy is
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> nothing less than defined by critique. T.Adorno
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