[Xmca-l] Re: "conscious awareness enters through the gate" (a Participation Question)

[Glassman, Michael]

Hi Mike,

Lennin’s wife? That would make sense. Do you know where he cited her work?

Michael
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On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 6:35 AM Anthony Barra <anthonymbarra@gmail.com<mailto:anthonymbarra@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks for the endorsement, Andy.

And please, feel free to jump in again. (BTW, we now have an audio-only option, for easier downloading and on-the-go listening: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tiny.cc/7n3nsz__;!!Mih3wA!TCnz66kxVtUY7IQm9RD0-DZkUzRtRjBpy9A9U7Qs3s7Iqe7AiuS_msiYFEpJKtpkAHH-5A$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/tiny.cc/7n3nsz__;!!Mih3wA!UpNDh2SuTGnq9M1EnvMT-VtliHnUd3ya7fk0uZkNlLzTzcyDRVWzHHRCIucmy20J_VnBCQ$> -- note that Seasons 3 and 4 feature the short snippets and "Answered Questions")

Anthony



On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 9:28 PM Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org<mailto:andyb@marxists.org>> wrote:

Can I just vouch for Anthony's project. He does a fine job of editing and I think his collection of tiny videos make a real contribution to Vygotsky's legacy. A diversity of voices help, so please! someone else stump up to join Anthony's crew.

Andy

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On 12/08/2020 6:03 am, Anthony Barra wrote:
Good afternoon,

This is a question -- and an invitation:

First the question: What do you understand the passage below (at the bottom of this email) to mean?

Second, the invitation: How about sharing your thoughts in short video form? It's quite enjoyable (ask Andy; ask David; etc) -- and it's also helpful, not only to me but to anyone watching or listening. (Here is the question again, in video form: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tiny.cc/l41nsz__;!!Mih3wA!TCnz66kxVtUY7IQm9RD0-DZkUzRtRjBpy9A9U7Qs3s7Iqe7AiuS_msiYFEpJKtoui6iamw$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/tiny.cc/l41nsz__;!!Mih3wA!RbTsEBrr1M-JQ2E0Cza-8aoA440vsBAtR7DQicuejOZvYN1AOyytgVid7plmKnYKHKx2jw$>)

I believe that many people -- including many teachers -- would benefit from answers to this question, preferably multiple answers. With permission, I will nicely edit and add your response to this growing list of asked-and-answered questions: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tiny.cc/451nsz__;!!Mih3wA!TCnz66kxVtUY7IQm9RD0-DZkUzRtRjBpy9A9U7Qs3s7Iqe7AiuS_msiYFEpJKtqQ333pOg$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/tiny.cc/451nsz__;!!Mih3wA!RbTsEBrr1M-JQ2E0Cza-8aoA440vsBAtR7DQicuejOZvYN1AOyytgVid7plmKnayu3KfOQ$>  Thanks for considering it, and note that we don't care about perfectionism here; it's mostly for fun.

Here is the passage in question, from Thinking and Speech, Ch. 6, pp. 190-1:
"To perceive something in a different way means to acquire new potentials for acting with respect to it. At the chess board, to see differently is to play differently. By generalizing the process of activity itself, I acquire the potential for new relationships with it. To speak crudely, it is as if this process has been isolated from the general activity of consciousness. I am conscious of the fact that I remember. I make my own remembering the object of consciousness. An isolation arises here. In a certain sense, any generalization or abstraction isolates its object. This is why conscious awareness – understood as generalization – leads directly to mastery.

Thus, the foundation of conscious awareness is the generalization or abstraction of the mental processes, which leads to their mastery. Instruction has a decisive role in this process. Scientific concepts have a unique relationship to the object. This relationship is mediated through other concepts that themselves have an internal hierarchical system of interrelationships. It is apparently in this domain of the scientific concept that conscious awareness of concepts or the generalization and mastery of concepts emerges for the first time. And once a new structure of generalization has arisen in one sphere of thought, it can – like any structure – be transferred without training to all remaining domains of concepts and thought. Thus, conscious awareness enters through the gate opened up by the scientific concept."

What do you understand this passage to mean?

Thanks 😎

Anthony Barra

P.S. My first encounter with Thinking and Speech was very difficult, even with the help of talented classmates and a smart professor. Thankfully, three online videos from Nikolai Veresov, presented not as a definitive reading but as a general map of the book's terrain, were really so helpful and encouraging for me. If any videos I'm posting turn out to be similarly useful (as a number of people have told me), that's great. So thank you again to anyone interested in participating.


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