[Xmca-l] Re: Hegelian sources of CHAT

[David Kellogg]

Andy--

Two of the four foundational concepts (viz., number 2 and number 3) are
Leontiev's and not Vygotsky's, and you are the author of a very perceptive
and penetrating critique of Leontiev's critique of Vygotsky on precisely
these two questions (The Problem of the Environment).

Also, the paper you link asserts in more than one place that Vygotsky never
read Hegel at all. The evidence you offer to prove the negative is a paper
you wrote ten years ago (which argues an absence of positive evidence).

But this goes against the testimony of his gynmasium
friend Dobkin, suggests that he was a very laid back student at Shanyavsky
University where he took courses in German philosophy, and also runs afoul
of remarks by both Lucien Seve and yourself about the obvious synergy.

So I gather this too is an older paper that doesn't reflect your current
thinking. Perhaps you could begin by telling us how your thinking has
changed and why.

David Kellogg
Sangmyung University

New Article:
Han Hee Jeung & David Kellogg (2019): A story without SELF: Vygotsky’s
pedology, Bruner’s constructivism and Halliday’s construalism in
understanding narratives by
Korean children, Language and Education, DOI: 10.1080/09500782.2019.1582663
To link to this article: https://doi.org/10.1080/09500782.2019.1582663

Some e-prints available at:
https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/KHRxrQ4n45t9N2ZHZhQK/full?target=10.1080/09500782.2019.1582663

The evidence to prove the negative is a paper you wrote in 2009.

On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 6:26 AM Peter Feigenbaum <pfeigenbaum@fordham.edu>
wrote:

> Andy,
>
> You have raised four truly excellent questions for discussion by CHAT
> members.  Each will be a significant challenge, but well worth the effort.
>
> Peter F
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 7:29 AM Carol Macdonald <carolmacdon@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Well you can definitely count me in but probably something of an observer.
>>
>> On Sat, 21 Sep 2019, 07:37 Andy Blunden, <andyb@marxists.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd dearly like to get some discussion going on this:
>>>
>>> It will be shown that at least four foundational concepts of Cultural
>>> Historical Activity Theory were previously formulated by Hegel, viz., (1)
>>> the unit of analysis as a key concept for analytic-synthetic cognition, (2)
>>> the centrality of artifact-mediated actions, (3) the definitive distinction
>>> between goal and motive in activities, and (4) the distinction between a
>>> true concept and a pseudoconcept.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.academia.edu/s/7d70db6eb3/the-hegelian-sources-of-cultural-historical-activity-theory
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.academia.edu_s_7d70db6eb3_the-2Dhegelian-2Dsources-2Dof-2Dcultural-2Dhistorical-2Dactivity-2Dtheory&d=DwMFaQ&c=aqMfXOEvEJQh2iQMCb7Wy8l0sPnURkcqADc2guUW8IM&r=mXj3yhpYNklTxyN3KioIJ0ECmPHilpf4N2p9PBMATWs&m=vDFwyKGgEf7eFoYWTrK6zFxttCocQ33HK63G5-JAgss&s=l0Rq4uzrNELUyhAfo1svIH9pfIihzqiHhIql5QGyI30&e=>
>>>
>>> Andy
>>> --
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *Andy Blunden*
>>> Hegel for Social Movements
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>>> Home Page
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>>>
>>
>
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