[Xmca-l] Re: Vygotsky and texting

[Greg Thompson]

Love the "not it" emoji but you may have to explain that to those who
haven't played the game...
Yes, highly contextualized (although I think Michael used that word in the
opposite sense.... I think)
-greg

On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 11:33 AM Greg Mcverry <jgregmcverry@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is a wonderful thread.
>
> I am in the process of working on a proposal to get a "not-it“ emoji
> approved (Nose goes game meaning touch your nose to call “not it.“
>
> The application and process is quite in depth.
>
> So is there another connection when the creation of these abbreviated
> speech forms are so tied to systems?
>
> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019, 1:05 PM Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This cropped up a while ago in the context of twitter usage. The basic
>> point was that frequent exchanges made up for the dearth of explicit
>> context.
>>
>> This is different, however, to personal predication and sign use. E.g. to
>> contrast notes with essays.
>>
>> Huw
>>
>> On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 at 16:49, Glassman, Michael <glassman.13@osu.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Greg,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In my current reading abbreviation is central to Vygotsky’s argument.
>>> Inner speech is pure predicate (at least mature and much of the time).
>>> Written speech is heavily contextualized and would not trust abbreviation.
>>> Verbal speech is abbreviated because we are with the interlocutors, sharing
>>> the experience. We talked about written abbreviations in our class.
>>> Generally, pre-social media it was only done if it was preceded by a close
>>> social relationship with a verbal history.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks why this is so interesting.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>>> *On Behalf Of *Greg Thompson
>>> *Sent:* Friday, September 06, 2019 11:26 AM
>>> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>>> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: Vygotsky and texting
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> McCulloch, Gretchen (2019). “Emoji and Other Internet Gestures.” In *Because
>>> Internet: Understanding the New Rules of Language*. New York: Riverhead
>>> Books.
>>>
>>> NB: I'm not so sure that abbreviation hasn't always been around in
>>> writing too.
>>>
>>> -greg
>>>
>>> p.s., do you think the fact of abbreviation in writing makes much
>>> difference to Vygotsky's argument?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 7:55 AM Glassman, Michael <glassman.13@osu.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> So I am reading Vygotsky with a class. The first time I am reading his
>>> work in a few years. We are starting with chapter 7 of thinking and speech,
>>> thought and word because – well I wanted to and I am the instructor (can’t
>>> beat the perqs). I run across something really interesting that would not
>>> have had much meaning pre-Internet – well meaning (or sense, I don’t know),
>>> but not as much as today. He is talking about the different forms of
>>> communication and he talks about how we abbreviate in verbal speech (our we
>>> move inner speech out to social communication) but not really in written
>>> speech. This was mostly true the first time I read it. But this time it
>>> made me think of blogging and especially micro-blogging. We tend to
>>> abbreviate all the time, more than in normal verbal communication, but it
>>> is written communication. In class we of course discussed space limitations
>>> but it seems more than that. Somebody brought up the example of sub-Reddits
>>> some of which have a great deal of abbreviated communication. We also got
>>> in to a big discussion of emojis. I mean people use them, but really why do
>>> we have them and why do people use them so easily (they were originally
>>> organic and then tech companies began standardizing them. It made me
>>> wonder, is micro-blogging and blogging actually a new and different form of
>>> mediated communication, different from both verbal and formal written
>>> communication.  Does anybody know of any work on this. I am having my
>>> students do their blog assignments this week using abbreviations and emojis
>>> and memes.  I am really interested to see what happens.  Anybody know of
>>> any research on this?  Have any thoughts? (I would do an emoji to end but I
>>> am really bad at them. But I will say I was pwnd by my students in class
>>> when discussing this).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>

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