[Xmca-l] Re: New book on Ilyenkov

[Huw Lloyd]

Quite possibly it was from a lack of recognising the continuity into second
order cybernetics, which many of the founding members of cybernetics
recognised.

Huw

On Sat, 18 May 2019 at 11:05, David Kellogg <dkellogg60@gmail.com> wrote:

> Andy, Alfredo--
>
> The most intriguing thing about this book was the statement that Ilyenkov
> fought against the introduction of ideas from cybernetics into psychology.
> On the other side of the world, Gregory Bateson was fighting hard for their
> inclusion.
>
> I read through "The Ideal in Human Activity" a couple of times (true,
> without understanding much of it). But I didn't see anything against
> cybernetics. Am I missing something?
>
> David Kellogg
> Sangmyung University
>
> New Article:
> Han Hee Jeung & David Kellogg (2019): A story without SELF: Vygotsky’s
> pedology, Bruner’s constructivism and Halliday’s construalism in
> understanding narratives by
> Korean children, Language and Education, DOI: 10.1080/09500782.2019.1582663
> To link to this article: https://doi.org/10.1080/09500782.2019.1582663
>
> Some e-prints available at:
>
> https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/KHRxrQ4n45t9N2ZHZhQK/full?target=10.1080/09500782.2019.1582663
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 6:22 PM Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org> wrote:
>
>> https://realdemocracymovement.org/finding-evald-ilyenkov/
>>
>> In the era of alt-truth, disinformation and scepticism about the very
>> possibility of knowledge, the work of a defiant Soviet thinker is
>> attracting growing interest.
>>
>> Evald Ilyenkov’s dialectical approach to philosophy from Spinoza to Hegel
>> and Marx made him a target for persecution by the bureaucratic Stalinist
>> authorities of his day.
>>
>> The re-discovery of his original texts, suppressed or harshly redacted
>> during his lifetime, is giving rise to an enhanced view of his contribution.
>>
>> *Finding Evald Ilyenkov* draws on the personal experiences of
>> researchers in the UK, Denmark and Finland. It traces Ilyenkov’s impact on
>> philosophy, psychology, politics and pedagogy and how it continues to be
>> relevant in the light of today’s crises.
>> --
>> ------------------------------
>> Andy Blunden
>> http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
>>
>
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