[Xmca-l] Re: Saussure vs Peirce

[Andy Blunden]

Arturo, I think Vygotsky and Bakhtin have two distinct units 
of analysis here, and both give us a specific insight which 
the other does not.

"Word" in the sense Vygotsky is using it in Chapter 1 of T&S 
is inclusive of any phrase or word which is the sign for a 
concept. "Utterance" for Bakhtin is a turn in dialogue, 
i.e., a move in a language game (to use Wittgenstein's term 
for the same entity). The utterance does not tell us 
anything about the concepts being evoked. "Word meaning" 
does not tell us how it figures in a language game, and 
therefore does not tell us about the relations of 
subordination or solidarity, etc., being produced.

That's how I see it, anyway.

Andy

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Andy Blunden
http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
On 16/03/2019 2:54 pm, Arturo Escandon wrote:
> Word meaning" for instance, should not be rendered as 
> 'utterance meaning' in English? What is 'word'? Or its use 
> it's just fine as word
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