[Xmca-l] Re: Alternatives to Social Capital and Knowledge Brokering

HENRY SHONERD hshonerd@gmail.com
Sun Mar 10 07:54:57 PDT 2019 

Andy
Anymore, I wonder how it is possible for anything to be before the generation of you and me;) 

Midnight Oil was the backup band for Yothu Yindi when I saw them. So sorry to hear Gurumul died. Musical capital, oh yeah! Add to that dance, any performance art. These are gestural systems across the sensory spectrum that speak to something foundational to any and all social projects. Something that speaks to and from all earthly creatures. All of it comes from the same stock. Sensing this makes the hair stand on end, as you say it. I continue to think that keeping in mind creative projects as the unit of all social movements is what will get us through, if anything can. A shout out to Vera!
Henry


> On Mar 9, 2019, at 9:11 PM, Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org> wrote:
> 
> Yothu Yindi is fantastic. Makes your hair stand on end to even listen!
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> Midnight Oil is not my generation; I'm more a Joan Baez guy. No doubt they did great work bringing social issues to the youth. Unfortunately in 2007 the Labor Party recruited their lead singer, Peter Garrett, as an ALP candidate in the election which put an end to John Howard's reign in 2007. He was then given a task for which he was not equipped, and though he didn't do a bad job, he was successfully torn to bits by Tony Abbott's attack dogs. Along with a few other good souls who had been recruited for that election, he dropped out of politics in 2013, after the experience of being the target of a sustained barrage of right-wing vitriol. Thank goodness Gurrumul Yinopingu was not drawn into politics - something that is utterly unthhinkable, the guy was a saint - but regrettably Gurumul died in 2013.
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> Is there such a thing as musical capital? If so, the ALP spent their allocation.
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> Andy
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> Andy Blunden
> http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm <http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm>
> On 10/03/2019 1:40 pm, HENRY SHONERD wrote:
>> Andy,
>> We have our own indigenous people. I know it fairly well here in New Mexico from my work in Indian Education (Navajo and Pueblos). Based on that “indigenous problem" I think you are right that the issue is not as toxic as our the situation for Black people, but there is toxicity. And it has been around even longer than in Australia. Incidentally, have you every heard of two Australian bands?: Yothu Yindi (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7cbkxn4G8U <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7cbkxn4G8U>) or Midnight Oil (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2I9QNU_u_k? <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2I9QNU_u_k>) I saw them play in Albuquerque some 30 years ago. Amazing rock and roll, an expression of social solidarity. The blues, jazz, hip hop, raggae are all forms of social solidarity, and the musicians that express it, and bring it out in their audiences, have human capital. Just saying.
>> Henry
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>>> On Mar 9, 2019, at 6:01 PM, Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org <mailto:andyb@marxists.org>> wrote:
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>>> Yes. I haven't got to that chapter yet, but he has already made this clear. It also shows how the issue of poverty and the labour issue became transmuted into the issue of the emancipated slaves. This is what I meant by the "racialisation" of American politics, a problem which is still disabling progressive politics in the US. We have racism in Australia. No doubt about that. Anti-immigrant racism is, in my view, utterly ineffective in changing the political landscape overall, despite heaping misery on whoever the latest wave of immigrants happens to be. But after a few years, the colour of the next wave changes, a new generation grows up and we move on. The racism against the indigenous people remains and it is a terrible problem for us. But I don't think it poisons the entire political landscape like the legacy of slavery does in the US.
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>>> Andy
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>>> Andy Blunden
>>> http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm <http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm>
>>> On 10/03/2019 11:50 am, Helena Worthen wrote:
>>>> Andy and others:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for reading DuBois. The chapter titled “The White Worker” is living history, the clearest, strongest explanation available of the situation of racism in the US today. This is a chapter one can actually assign to students when they ask “Why Trump?”
>>>> 
>>>> Helena
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>>>>> On Mar 10, 2019, at 7:30 AM, Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org <mailto:andyb@marxists.org>> wrote:
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>>>>> At the moment I am reading W E B Du Bois on the history of the Reconstruction after the American Civil War. Horrific reading in terms of the brutality of the Southern whites' attitudes to the "freedmen" and the system of laws designed to keep them in bondage, but also startling how much of the terms of debate seem not to have changed over a period of 150 years. Du Bois is interesting because he shows how Lincoln never intended to end slavery, but the whole logic of the situation forced his hand, even though he was the first to see that. The depth of the legacy of slavery in the US becomes abundantly clear; every social issue gets racialised. How similar the issues are today as when Du Bois was writing!
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Social capital" seemed to count for little, but "human capital" of course, took on a very specific meaning in those days.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andy
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andy Blunden
>>>>> http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm <http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm>
>>>>> On 10/03/2019 6:08 am, Peg Griffin wrote:
>>>>>> How difficult doing social solidarity is in spite of its necessity, right?  Here’s an SPLC piece (with a book suggestion within it) that I think some folks probably already have and others might want.  It’s called “If nobody is racist, why is racism still America’s biggest problem?”
>>>>>> Keeps on being hard to follow John Lewis into “good trouble,” doesn’t it?
>>>>>> PG
>>>>>> It rained on marchers from Selma to Montgomery, Alabama, in 1965, and it rained on them again last weekend as they commemorated the day when police beat civil rights marchers so badly that the date became known the nation over as Bloody Sunday.
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>>>>>> FIGHTING HATE // TEACHING TOLERANCE // SEEKING JUSTICE <https://donate.splcenter.org/page.redir?target=https%3a%2f%2fwww.splcenter.org%2f&srcid=1228102&srctid=1&erid=344519828&efndnum=17317216624&trid=da8c8854-aae9-4bf2-911b-a9bc0000d3fa>
>>>>>> MARCH 9, 2019
>>>>>> Weekend Read // Issue 121
>>>>>> Peg,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It rained on marchers from Selma to Montgomery, Alabama, in 1965, and it rained on them again last weekend as they commemorated the day when police beat civil rights marchers so badly that the date became known the nation over as Bloody Sunday.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Fifty-four years have passed since that historic march for voting rights, but as the speakers lamented last weekend, we are still fighting for the right to vote today.
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>>>>>> However, as Rep. John Lewis told a crowd at the Civil Rights Memorial Center in Montgomery as part of the Bloody Sunday anniversary, “We come with the spirit and the belief that we can change things. We have the power. We have the ability. We can do it.”
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>>>>>> Doing the hard work of achieving the ideals of the civil rights movement is the message of white academic and diversity trainer Robin DiAngelo’s recent book “White Fragility.” It has spent seven months near the top of The New York Times bestseller list despite a challenging message to white people, its intended audience: When — not if — you perpetuate racism, don’t get defensive <https://donate.splcenter.org/page.redir?target=https%3a%2f%2fbit.ly%2f2Sb5maE&srcid=1228102&srctid=1&erid=344519828&efndnum=17317216624&trid=da8c8854-aae9-4bf2-911b-a9bc0000d3fa>.
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>>>>>> “In my experience, day in and day out, most white people are absolutely not receptive to finding out their impact on other people,” DiAngelo told Nosheen Iqbal for The Guardian. She recounted the way that “They insist, ‘Well, it’s not me’, or say ‘I’m doing my best, what do you want from me?’”
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>>>>>> One problem, DiAngelo says, is that white progressives often define racism as something obvious and violent — like when police beat civil rights marchers in Selma in 1965 — when the reality is that it is much more insidious.
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>>>>>> “We have to stop thinking about racism simply as someone who says the N-word,” she told Iqbal. “This book is centered in the white western colonial context, and in that context white people hold institutional power.”
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>>>>>> But over the course of 20 years of doing trainings around race and diversity, DiAngelo has discovered that white progressives who say they want to be allies to people of color are often nonetheless uncomfortable examining the impact of their own behavior <https://donate.splcenter.org/page.redir?target=https%3a%2f%2fbit.ly%2f2J3s0Tc&srcid=1228102&srctid=1&erid=344519828&efndnum=17317216624&trid=da8c8854-aae9-4bf2-911b-a9bc0000d3fa>.
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>>>>>> DiAngelo defines this as white fragility — the inability of white people to tolerate racial stress.
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>>>>>> “I want to build the stamina to handle the discomfort so we don’t retreat in the face of it, because retreating holds the status quo in place, and the status quo is the reproduction of racism,” DiAngelo explained. 
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>>>>>> Without that stamina, white people who discover ways they may have accidentally perpetuated racial inequality and injustice too often “weaponi[ze their] hurt feelings” by getting indignant and defensive, in turn creating a climate that makes their anxiety more important than the concerns of the people of color <https://donate.splcenter.org/page.redir?target=https%3a%2f%2fbit.ly%2f2Sb5maE&srcid=1228102&srctid=1&erid=344519828&efndnum=17317216624&trid=da8c8854-aae9-4bf2-911b-a9bc0000d3fa> around them.
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>>>>>> As DiAngelo asks, “If nobody is racist, why is racism still America’s biggest problem? What are white people afraid they will lose by listening?”
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It can be difficult to know how to do that in the moment. Our guide on how to respond to everyday bigotry <https://donate.splcenter.org/page.redir?target=https%3a%2f%2fbit.ly%2f2C5l2ar&srcid=1228102&srctid=1&erid=344519828&efndnum=17317216624&trid=da8c8854-aae9-4bf2-911b-a9bc0000d3fa> can help. So can our guide on 10 ways to fight hate <https://donate.splcenter.org/page.redir?target=https%3a%2f%2fbit.ly%2f2ztiIc7&srcid=1228102&srctid=1&erid=344519828&efndnum=17317216624&trid=da8c8854-aae9-4bf2-911b-a9bc0000d3fa>, one of which is to educate yourself through cross-racial conversations, like the kind DiAngelo has been promoting for decades.
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>>>>>> After all, within the white, western colonial context, DiAngelo points out: “Racism is a white problem. It was constructed and created by white people and the ultimate responsibility lies with white people. For too long we’ve looked at it as if it were someone else’s problem.” 
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>>>>>> On this anniversary of the march from Selma to Montgomery, when voter suppression is still rampant <https://donate.splcenter.org/page.redir?target=https%3a%2f%2fbit.ly%2f2tMp30b&srcid=1228102&srctid=1&erid=344519828&efndnum=17317216624&trid=da8c8854-aae9-4bf2-911b-a9bc0000d3fa>, police abuses are still violent <https://donate.splcenter.org/page.redir?target=https%3a%2f%2fbit.ly%2f2TvrZLZ&srcid=1228102&srctid=1&erid=344519828&efndnum=17317216624&trid=da8c8854-aae9-4bf2-911b-a9bc0000d3fa>, and civil rights are far from guaranteed <https://donate.splcenter.org/page.redir?target=https%3a%2f%2fbit.ly%2f2Bf3NA6&srcid=1228102&srctid=1&erid=344519828&efndnum=17317216624&trid=da8c8854-aae9-4bf2-911b-a9bc0000d3fa>, it could not be more clear.
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>>>>>> The Editors
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>>>>>> P.S. Here are some other pieces we think are valuable this week: 
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>>>>>> Kneeling during the anthem at Ole Miss: ‘I needed to stand up for my rights’ <https://donate.splcenter.org/page.redir?target=https%3a%2f%2fnyti.ms%2f2tRS218&srcid=1228102&srctid=1&erid=344519828&efndnum=17317216624&trid=da8c8854-aae9-4bf2-911b-a9bc0000d3fa> by Billy Witz for The New York Times
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>>>>>> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>] On Behalf Of Simangele Mayisela
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2019 12:54 PM
>>>>>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>>>>>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Alternatives to Social Capital and Knowledge Brokering
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>>>>>>  <> 
>>>>>> Dear Andy
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I browsed your  ethical politics paper and found it to be  moving. I realise my view of social capital has somehow been narrow as only focused on knowledge transfer – conscious or unconscious. Thanks for providing the background of the concept. At a political and economic level, it reminds me of the South African  “Xolobeni” saga, where a rural community, located on beautiful coastal  landscape with indigenous flora in the Eastern Cape is bulldozed by an Aissie mining company who “obtained” mining rights from the government under the guise that this will bring development and jobs to the community.  You can find the images and the news briefs on this social conundrum and the plight of the Exolobeni people on google  This is where the need of social solidarity becomes paramount above the idea of social capital. Thanks for sharing…will read this paper in depth.
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>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Simangele
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>>>>>> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>] On Behalf Of Andy Blunden
>>>>>> Sent: 07 March 2019 04:00 PM
>>>>>> To: xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>>>>>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Alternatives to Social Capital and Knowledge Brokering
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Social Solidarity versus “Social Capital” 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/pdfs/social.pdf <https://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/pdfs/social.pdf>
>>>>>> material for your brainstorming.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> andy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Andy Blunden
>>>>>> http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm <http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm>
>>>>>> On 8/03/2019 12:55 am, Greg Mcverry wrote:
>>>>>> I really enjoy the thinking behind social capital and the related idea of                                         knowledge brokering but find the free market/enterprise thinking problematic.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Comes across as everyone is trying to gain all the time and learning gets defined sorta as a nuisance, "I guess I will teach you since you help the community"
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I know that is over simplified but something been bugging me about this for a long time, simply haven't found a better alternative or formulated my thinking.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Playing with the idea of taking cognitive apprenticeships and recasting it as agentive apprenticeship to get at the bidirectional knowledge development and diffusion that occurs between both agents and networks.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Anyone have ideas? Just using email to brainstorm.
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