[Xmca-l] Re: Research on refugees/immigrants/migrants and Legitimate Peripheral Participation?

[Andy Blunden]

Oops. typos ... fixed

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*Andy Blunden*
https://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
On 27/06/2019 11:35 pm, Andy Blunden wrote:
>
> Alfredo, I think it is precisely by participation in a 
> common activity (or project or community of practice) that 
> oppression takes place. The apprentice voluntarily submits 
> themself to the activity and the division of labour, 
> roles, etc., inherent in it. The master necessarily has 
> power over the apprentice, and active attention is 
> required to avoid exploitation and oppression to avoid the 
> master exploiting the apprentice in the process of 
> inducting them into the practice.
>
> If, for example, the apprentice already had the skills and 
> tools required for the relevant practice then they 
> would*not *need an apprenticeship and would not be 
> vulnerable to exploitation.
>
> Although exploitation and oppression probably does occur 
> when the master does not have anything that the apprentice 
> needs, but I think that is exceptional.
>
> Andy
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> *Andy Blunden*
> https://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
> On 27/06/2019 9:18 pm, Alfredo Jornet Gil wrote:
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>> Just to add, that the problem I'd like to learn more 
>> about is, how does a framework that takes apprenticeship 
>> and community as starting point help when the object of 
>> research is one that concerns oppression and dehumanisation?
>>
>>
>> Alfredo
>>
>>
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>> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu 
>> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of Alfredo 
>> Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@ils.uio.no>
>> *Sent:* 27 June 2019 02:37
>> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: Research on 
>> refugees/immigrants/migrants and Legitimate Peripheral 
>> Participation?
>>
>> I cannot help with this, Greg, since I don't know of work 
>> specifically connecting the two. But if your student gets 
>> to write about that, I'd be very interested in reading 
>> her/his work.
>>
>>
>> A few days ago, I was listening Amy Goodman's interview 
>> with a lawyer who visited children detention centres in 
>> the US border. I literally cried as I was commuting to 
>> work listening to the horrendous inhumanity being described.
>>
>>
>> (Interview here:) 
>> https://www.democracynow.org/shows/2019/6/24
>>
>>
>> Now, reading your question, I wondered, what is 
>> "legitimate participation" for a child in a detention 
>> center? What is the center and what the periphery in such 
>> a context? And for a Syrian refugee in a shelter in 
>> Turkey? Is there anything like a community of practice 
>> that belongs to being a refugee or immigrant?
>>
>>
>> Not that I am sceptical about or questioning the 
>> relevance of the approach to the issue. Just that I don't 
>> know how, would like to know.
>>
>>
>> Best,​
>>
>> Alfredo
>>
>>
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>> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu 
>> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of Greg 
>> Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* 26 June 2019 18:23
>> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Research on 
>> refugees/immigrants/migrants and Legitimate Peripheral 
>> Participation?
>> Just wondering if anyone out there could point me to 
>> research on refugees/immigrants/migrants and Legitimate 
>> Peripheral Participation (or otherwise connect the former 
>> with Lave and Wenger's communities of practice)?
>>
>> (this is for a student of mine)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Greg
>>
>> -- 
>> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
>> Assistant Professor
>> Department of Anthropology
>> 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
>> Brigham Young University
>> Provo, UT 84602
>> WEBSITE: greg.a.thompson.byu.edu 
>> <http://greg.a.thompson.byu.edu>
>> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
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