[Xmca-l] Re: Do we find Inequalities in wild life system?

[Andy Blunden]

Mmm, "subjective" is a polysemous word, Huw. It is not a 
matter of precision but of relativity. "Inequality" is a 
famously contested concept, as is "injustice," but its 
contestation is necessarily in a social context and with 
social content. Justice and equality are given objective 
form in law and social policy in definite, really-existing 
states or organisations challenging for state power, not the 
opinion of individuals.

andy

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Andy Blunden
http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
On 29/01/2019 1:50 am, Huw Lloyd wrote:
> It isn't "subjective", Andy. Rather it is limited to a 
> certain construal. One can be quite precise and objective 
> about that construal.
>
> Huw
>
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 at 14:14, Andy Blunden 
> <andyb@marxists.org <mailto:andyb@marxists.org>> wrote:
>
>     I can't agree that with your suggestion, Huw, that
>     inequality (in the meaning with which Harshad used it)
>     is something subjective, in the eye of the beholder.
>     Such a view would be very pernicious politically. The
>     fact is that states have emerged and developed over
>     many centuries so as to makes objective certain
>     concepts of justice, among which are various qualified
>     and nuances notions of equality. This is not  figment
>     of my imagination.
>
>     andy
>
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>     Andy Blunden
>     http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
>     On 29/01/2019 12:59 am, Huw Lloyd wrote:
>>     We find "wild life" systems that are imbalanced and
>>     subject to radical changes.
>>
>>     Inequality is a perceptual/cognitive construct and
>>     predicated on an ontological scope. We find the
>>     condition of inequality (or comparison) in our
>>     thinking and behaviour. Every living thing "finds"
>>     inequalities. We do not find inequality, we find the
>>     awareness of inequality.
>>
>>     On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 at 08:17, James Ma
>>     <jamesma320@gmail.com <mailto:jamesma320@gmail.com>>
>>     wrote:
>>
>>         Should you find inequality within a wildlife
>>         system, that must be a political, ideological
>>         precept!
>>
>>         James
>>
>>         On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 at 07:56, James Ma
>>         <jamesma320@gmail.com
>>         <mailto:jamesma320@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             Not only is it meaningless but also
>>             preposterous. To maintain that all members of
>>             the same species are equal, as Anne Moir and
>>             David Jessel put it, is to "build a society
>>             based on a biological and scientific lie".
>>             James
>>             PS: I'm apolitical - anything political,
>>             ideological just doesn't speak to me!
>>
>>             */_______________________________________________________/*
>>
>>             /*James Ma *Independent Scholar
>>             //https://oxford.academia.edu/JamesMa
>>             /
>>
>>
>>             On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 at 05:27, Andy Blunden
>>             <andyb@marxists.org
>>             <mailto:andyb@marxists.org>> wrote:
>>
>>                 Harshad,
>>
>>                 "Inequality" is a meaningless concept
>>                 when referred to Nature. Likewise
>>                 "Injustice."
>>
>>                 Justice and equality are relevant only to
>>                 the extent that the subjects are living
>>                 in an 'artificial' world, out of Nature.
>>                 Natural disasters and the plenitude of
>>                 Nature have these dimensions only to the
>>                 extent they are imposed on or made
>>                 available to different classes of people
>>                 by the social system.
>>
>>                 Hope that helps.
>>
>>                 Andy
>>
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>>                 Andy Blunden
>>                 http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
>>
>>                 On 28/01/2019 4:00 pm, Harshad Dave wrote:
>>>                 Hi,
>>>
>>>                 I am working on one article. I want to
>>>                 know your views on following query.
>>>
>>>                 "Do we find Inequalities exists in wild
>>>                 life system?"
>>>
>>>                 Your views will help me in my work.
>>>
>>>                 Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                 Harshad Dave
>>>                 Email: hhdave15@gmail.com
>>>                 <mailto:hhdave15@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
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