[Xmca-l] Re: The Mindset.

Mon Aug 19 17:37:23 PDT 2019

Moving in groups is a behavior that occurs in animals: a flock, a herd, a pride, a hive. Mindset has bunches to do with collective mentality.  Groups isolate members, rank members, partner or pair or mate in communities. The care of the young among elephants is a communal activity. There have been fun videos of herding dogs herding people. In my own family, the Shepherd guarded and watched out for us.  The selection of a puppy with behavior characteristics was a big deal.  So in this collective group of academics, which of the mindset frames is operating as we work with this question?

"Break the pattern which connects the items of learning and you necessarily destroy all quality." (Gregory Bateson. *Mind and Nature: A Necessary Unity* p.8) 

Vandy
(Valerie Wilkinson)

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I think one of the central issues is that animals are not conceptual beings whereas humans are - this is more of a gripping point, as I see it.
For example, dogs can recognise or differentiate colours; however, they don't have the concept of colour.
One might even think that animals have morals, but this is perhaps simply a human interpretation!

James

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On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 at 15:12, Annalie Pistorius <annalie.pistorius@smu.ac.za> wrote:

Thank you Harshad, I got the file and read it. “Mindset” sounds like the something all motivational speakers and writers and philosophers try to answer and work with and they call out different things.
From your document, it sounds like you are saying that mindset is an activity of reflection and an orientation?
Annalie 

From:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu<xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>On Behalf OfHarshad Dave
Sent:Sunday, 18 August 2019 3:10 PM
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Subject:[Xmca-l] Re: The Mindset.

Hi Annalie,

I got your point and herewith I attach a docs file where I have explained my views that interprets exactly what I understand about "mindset" of a man. I want that all the participants of this discussion should have excess to this file but I have not adequate grip in operating this email_application of xmca-l so please help me confirming if you get the excess or not. Further to this, the write up on mindset there in the attached file is a part of an article that I write presently and it is on different subject matter of social issue where mindset of man is a prime influencing parameter and that compelled me to be clear on mindset. When I wrote on mindset of a man as one of the topic of the article under my pen, I found it necessary to peep into wild life system if animals are also victim of this frame work of mindset or it is just in human social system only.

with regards,   

Harshad Dave

On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 5:15 PM Annalie Pistorius <annalie.pistorius@smu.ac.za> wrote:

Hello Harshad,
There is Eugene Marais in South Africa who studied baboons and termites with a similar question re “the soul of the ape/ant” – group behaviour that is created rather than instinctual, with interesting theorising (I must read myself). We need to shift our mindset to not separate man from animal, appreciating interconnectedness and relationality perhaps, and this writer was writing in this way. The second link will take you to a PDF file.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4198597-the-soul-of-the-ape
https://www.radiantlunatic.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/TheSoulOfTheWhiteAnt.pdf
But it looks like maybe you are asking how we do things contrary to the good judgement and abilities that we have. Maybe you can clarify for us a particular dilemma you have in mind, how you see this mindset, is it something such as even though people have empathy and social skills, they have a mindset that justifies them to hurt some people to reach their goals?
Regards
Annalie

From:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu<xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>On Behalf OfHarshad Dave
Sent:Saturday, 17 August 2019 11:08 AM
To:eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
Subject:[Xmca-l] The Mindset.

Hi all,

You will agree that no man in this world is free from his mindset that he developed during the journey of his growth from childhood to his prevailing age. His mindset plays an influential role while he deals with outside world. Even if the person has competent abilities, his mindset may not permit the application of his appropriate abilities at right time and on event, as if it (mindset) is a filter put before application of abilities. Presently I am working on it and I need your help at one point.

"Do animals have mindset or they are free from it?"

with true regards,

Harshad Dave  

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