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On Wed, 3/14/18, David Kellogg <dkellogg60@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Article for discussion: Facebook in Brazilian schools
 To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
 Date: Wednesday, March 14, 2018, 6:03 PM
 
 I was ten years old on 15 October 1969,
 during the first national
 moratorium to end the Vietnam War, and
 I was a leader of the school patrol
 at my elementary school. Our job was
 standing at intersections with red
 plastic flags to stop the cars so that
 the younger grades could cross
 safely. The day before the Moratorium,
 we marched up a nearby hill instead
 of going to our first class so we could
 hold a discussion over whether it
 was right to strike on the Moratorium
 Day, and thus endanger the lives of
 the littler children. We decided to go
 ahead with a strike and close down
 the school the next day; I remember
 leading a march (our plastic red flags
 flying!) which included some little
 'uns (second and third graders) to
 Coffmann Union on the nearby University
 of Minnesota campus where there
 were tens of thousands of 
 protesting students. They greeted us with a roar
 I never forgot.
 
 My wife, curiously, had a similar
 experience: she was an elementary school
 leader of the movement to criticize Lin
 Biao and Confucius in China and
 made speeches at mass meetings all over
 her hometown of Xi'an when she was
 about seven years old. Yes, the
 speeches were usually ones she copied from
 People's Daily, with the help of a
 friend of her mother's. But she was the
 only one in her elementary school who
 could read the speeches with an
 intonation that suggested understanding
 and did not have stage fright in
 front of tens of thousands of adults.
 As she says today, the newborn calf
 does not fear a full grown tiger.
 
 When we talk about our childhood
 experiences of mass movements, what
 strikes me is how utterly
 pre-conceptal, complexive, and even syncretic we
 both were: I imagined that the bombing
 of elementary schools in Vietnam was
 done to kill second and third graders;
 my wife thought that Confucius was
 still alive, and that's why we need to
 criticize him (in fact, even Lin
 Biao was already dead by then). 
 Similarly, it seems to me that a lot of
 the thinking around guns in the
 USA--and not just by kids--is
 pre-conceptual. The latest shooting was
 political--it was carried out by a
 white nationalist who had trained in
 the use of weapons with other white
 nationalists. This isn't much
 discussed.
 
 It seems to me that the suggestion to
 arm teachers (which is already being
 done in many areas, but in a way that
 only endangers teacher lives) offers
 an affordance for a more sophisticated
 and also more programmatic approach
 than simply trying to turn Trump's
 offhand comments into legislation. If
 the teachers union had specially
 trained armed defense guards, for example,
 they could not only stop school
 shooters, they might provide some limited
 protection to black students in South
 Chicago who are murdered by the
 police on their way to and from school.
 And of course armed union defense
 guards would be absolutely consistent
 with the "well regulated militia"
 provision of the Second Amendment, and
 with practices in countries like
 Switzerland.
 
 David Kellogg
 Sangmyung University
 
 Recent Article in *Early Years*
 
 The question of questions: Hasan’s
 critiques, Vygotsky’s crises, and the
 child’s first interrogatives
 <https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09575146.2018.1431874>
 
 Free e-print available at:
 https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/6EeWMigjFARavQjDJjcW/full
 
 
 On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 8:59 AM, Andy
 Blunden <andyb@marxists.org>
 wrote:
 
 > During the anti-Vietnam War
 movement there were certainly
 > actions by school children. In
 Australia, so I'm sure it
 > would have happened in the US. But
 in that case the
 > schoolkids were joining what was
 already a mass movement.
 > The anti-gun movement obviously
 exists in the US, among
 > adults, but I get the impression
 that in both the USD &
 > Brazil, it is schoolkid initiated.
 Obviously very many of
 > the kids have the moral support
 and encouragement of their
 > own parents and many teachers and
 principals. But that is
 > not the same as actually setting
 dates and places, informing
 > relevant people, drafts up letters
 and statements, etc., etc.
 >
 > Every protest in modern times
 (20th century) happens thanks
 > to the tireless work of a certain
 social type called the
 > Organiser. The Organiser maintains
 a two-inch think address
 > book, kept up to date by regular
 calls relevant to a variety
 > of campaigns and utilised in the
 latest protest. The
 > Organiser hardly ever sleeps, they
 really *work* at it, and
 > you receive multiple phone calls
 reminding you when to be
 > where and to bring this or that or
 your friend along too.
 > They also know their subject and
 have mastered all the facts
 > and rhetoric and pester all the
 media.
 >
 > Whatever else it is, FaceBook
 enables everyone to be an
 > Organiser. The downside is that it
 has made people lazy;
 > poster runs, where a group of
 activists run around the
 > business areas at night sticking
 up posters, have almost
 > disappeared, as have the phone
 trees which organised the
 > Peace Movement. But we all know
 the story of redundant skills
 >
 > Although I always resist
 simplistic maxims like "the
 > transformation of quantity into
 quality" it really seems
 > reasonable to me that social media
 plus Trump plus yet
 > another mass murder cheered on by
 the NRA and their
 > political representatives can, at
 a certain point, exceed
 > boiling point.
 >
 > I look forward with interest to
 how it goes tomorrow. And
 > how a new generation handles
 themselves when they go out to
 > work and vote.
 >
 > Andy
 >
 >
 ------------------------------------------------------------
 > Andy Blunden
 >
 ttp://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
 > On 14/03/2018 10:25 AM, Glassman,
 Michael wrote:
 > > Hello Fernando,
 > >
 > > What I find really
 interesting is this phrase,
 > >
 > > "it was the first time in
 Brazilian history that students (who were not
 > supposed to interfere) interfered
 in a political decision."
 > >
 > > Mike alluded to this in his
 message as well about Parkland.  I find it
 > fascinating that the same type of
 movement among the same age group is
 > occurring simultaneously in the
 U.S. and in Brazil. Yet I believe these
 > students have no contact with each
 other. And there is nobody teaching
 > them. There are no experts. 
 They are learning in a way that challenges
 > many of our belief systems about
 learning (unless they are machines).
 > >
 > > Tomorrow is going to be a
 very interesting day in the U.S.  As part of
 > the anti-gun movement students all
 over the country are going to be walking
 > out of school and staying out for
 seventeen minutes.  In some places
 > schools will support this. In some
 places it just won't happen.  But I am
 > growing more fearful of what
 happens if there is a flashpoint between the
 > schools and the students.  I
 wonder if some schools will try and chain the
 > doors.  I wonder if some
 schools will lock the students out (this already
 > happened at one school putting
 students in danger).  I wonder if police
 > will decide to have a
 presence.  This will be the first time students (at
 > least high schoolers) en masse
 decided to challenge the authority of the
 > state.
 > >
 > > Michael
 > >
 > > -----Original Message-----
 > > From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
 [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@
 > mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of
 Fernando Cunha
 > > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018
 3:03 PM
 > > To: eXtended Mind, Culture,
 Activity <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>;
 mike
 > cole <mcole@ucsd.edu>
 > > Cc: Lemos, Monica <monica.lemos@helsinki.fi>
 > > Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Article
 for discussion: Facebook in Brazilian
 > schools
 > >
 > > Dear all,
 > > I really appreciate the
 discussion so far, and I liked the way some of
 > you used some metaphors. It was
 far from our intention to reinvent the
 > wheel or to use flint stones to
 light fire. What I think it is important is
 > that there is no "if" in human
 history, and we are where we are because we
 > transform the places we live, as
 well as the tools we use. We can for sure
 > ride horses in the cities, but the
 horses would sweat so much (considering
 > the asphalt roads), that in a
 matter of hours they would die.
 > >
 > > Since life is forward, we
 tried to show in our article a small part of
 > what the movements organized by
 the students were.It is important to
 > highlight, that despite people
 that were not in favor of protests
 > (including some students!), it was
 the first time in Brazilian history that
 > students (who were not supposed to
 interfere) interfered in a political
 > decision. And they did so not only
 by using Facebook. As we mention in our
 > paper, Facebook is one aspect of
 the protests, and we considered it as a
 > mediational communicative tool. As
 I mentioned before in this answer, we as
 > human beings use tools that are
 available, reshape them, and sometimes use
 > them for a purpose that is
 completely different from the original idea.
 > > I myself am a secondary
 education teacher, and I am also a researcher
 > because I am a secondary education
 teacher. We may have different points of
 > view when you research something
 as an outsider, and when you participate
 > (not as an ethnographer), but as a
 subject of the group. In my humble
 > opinion, we are still trying to
 conceptualize (and stabilize) things that
 > move faster than we can handle as
 scientists, or to compare contexts that
 > cannot be compared.
 > >
 > > I am looking forward to your
 reactions.
 > > Best regards,
 > >
 > >
 > >
 __________________________Fernando R. Cunha Júnior, PhD.
 > >
 > > http://fernandorcjr.wordpress.com
 > >
 > >
 > >     Em
 segunda-feira, 12 de março de 2018 21:05:34 BRT, mike cole
 <
 > mcole@ucsd.edu>
 escreveu:
 > >
 > >  Alfredo et al
 > >
 > > I read this message before
 reading the prior one. You are making the
 > point I was trying to make
 regarding discussion of the paper.
 > > In our everyday lives we are
 experiencing a change in the wind (to use a
 > metaphor that Dylan made famous at
 another such time).
 > > HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS ARE
 DISRUPTING THINGS AS USUAL for the first time
 > in my life. Call it 65 years.
 > >
 > > And we are academics and some
 of us are are paid to theorize such
 > matters.
 > > To theorize the social
 organization of society was Hugh's description of
 > the social sciences. In most
 American Universities, Psychology (cap P) is
 > located in the social sciences.
 > > Do we approach the problem
 from "below" as psychologists? Do we approach
 > it from "above" as sociologists
 and political scientists?
 > > Can you link the Leontiev who
 writes about the nature of human
 > consciousness, psychologically
 speaking and conducts experiments in the
 > laboratory that look for all the
 world like what goes on in my psychology
 > department, AND as someone who can
 help understand the growth of social
 > movements? This may also be a way
 to address and understanding of the
 > overlap and variability in the
 ideas of Vygotsky and Friere.
 > >
 > > Monica and Fernando must be
 reeling from all the complicated English we
 > are spewing. I look forward to the
 discussion.
 > >
 > > Still worrying about Figure
 3! I know I need to be able to interpret it
 > but I am doing a lousy job.
 > >
 > > mike
 > >
 > >
 > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 5:34
 AM, Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no
 > >
 > > wrote:
 > >
 > >> Thanks for finding and
 sharing the link, Andy, and thanks Michael and
 > >> Mike for bringing the
 absolutely relevant connection to Parklands.
 > >>
 > >> There was not so long ago
 a discussion here as well as in a couple of
 > >> articles in MCA about how
 crises leading to development most often
 > >> result from quantitative
 increments that lead to qualitative leaps
 > >> such that new forms of
 organization emerge from previous ones. So,
 > >> David, I don't see why
 increments in the pace of circulation (e.g., of
 > >> information) would not be
 expected to bring with them changes in the
 > >> organisation of the whole
 economy system. I would not say that social
 > >> media is just bringing a
 lot more of the same, just as I would not a
 > >> priori reject the
 possibility that bringing a lot more of the same
 > >> might not end up bringing
 new qualitative forms of communicating. The
 > >> observation that "like"
 is intransitive in Facebook is interesting;
 > >> but to me it needs to be
 put in its larger context of use. And so, are
 > >> we analysing Facebook as
 a grammar closed up in itself, or as one more
 > chain in a larger grammar of
 possible cooperation?
 > >>
 > >> I am myself concerned
 that Social Media like Facebook may be
 > >> amplifying dichotomical
 thinking beyond the innocuous and often
 > >> way-to-verbose essays we
 academics enjoy entertaining with much more
 > >> complex verbal forms than
 Facebook's intransitive "likes", only that
 > >> the confrontations now
 seem to be moving to family's dinner tables,
 > >> quarrels among protesters
 in public squares, or previously unheard of
 > >> incarcerations for
 publishing tweets and rap songs that critique the
 > >> crown in a supposedly
 modern democracy like Spain (e.g.:
 > >> http://cadenaser.com/ser/2018/02/20/tribunales/1519135083_
 > >> 106543.html). But the
 article here discussed also shows that there are
 > >> forms of organization
 that these technologies are affording that may
 > >> bring more positive
 changes, like the case again in Spain of March 8th
 > >> women's strike, the
 extent of which no politician or journalist had
 > >> anticipated and which led
 the government to quickly adopt a much more
 > >> equity-friendly discourse
 than even the evening before
 > >> (https://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=4_11iIELdfc). So, no,
 probably that
 > >> one strike, or that one
 social media that may have made it possible,
 > >> won't change the system.
 But they seem to incrementally add to
 > something, don't they?
 > >>
 > >> Alfredo Jornet
 > >>
 ________________________________
 > >> New article in *Design
 Studies* "Imagining Design: Transitive and
 > >> intransitive dimensions"
 > >> Free print available: https://authors.elsevier.com/a/1WhHg_,KmyN6Dr
 > >>
 > >>
 ________________________________________
 > >> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
 > >> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
 on behalf of Andy Blunden
 > >> <andyb@marxists.org>
 > >> Sent: 12 March 2018
 06:39
 > >> To: xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu
 > >> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re:
 Article for discussion: Facebook in Brazilian
 > >> schools
 > >>
 > >> That headline does not
 exist, but is it this:
 > >>
 > >> https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/07/us/parkland-students-social-media.h
 > >> tml
 > >>
 > >> Andy
 > >>
 > >>
 ------------------------------------------------------------
 > >> Andy Blunden
 > >>
 ttp://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
 > >> On 12/03/2018 4:02 PM,
 mike cole wrote:
 > >>> Michael - I have been
 trying to find a digital copy of a story in
 > >>> today's NY Times
 titled "the social media warriors of parkland." For
 > >>> some reason
 > >> it
 > >>> is not visible on the
 digital version.... yet. Maybe someone out
 > >>> there in 
 xmca-land can find it for us? I will check again  in
 the
 > >>> morning to see if it
 appears.
 > >>>      
 It seems especially relevant to Monica and Fernando's
 article,
 > >>> and
 > >> to
 > >>> David's comment that
 "  it is very hard for me to pinpoint any
 > >>> actual new form of
 thinking or new form of speaking which was made
 > >> possible by
 > >>> Facebook."  The
 voices and forms of speaking used by the students
 > >>> was
 > >> not,
 > >>> so far as I could
 tell, the source of data. There are no quotations
 > >>> of
 > >> any
 > >>> students speaking
 differently. I assumed that this article was about
 > >>> collective action.
 > >>> Monica and Fernando -
 I confess I had difficulty following parts of
 > >>> the article, perhaps
 because I am a very seldom user of Facebook. In
 > >>> particular, I had
 difficulty understanding Figure 3.  Were the
 > >>> people who started M1
 also those who started M2-M3? ( " Once
 > >>> students achieved the
 object of the activity—in the first case, to
 > >>> avoid the closure of
 the schools—they focused the protests on another
 > object").
 > >>>
 > >>> Did the M4 people get
 the idea from M1 through a FB connection form M1?
 > >> Did
 > >>> you get any sense of
 what distinguished pages that got a few hundred
 > >> versus
 > >>> 10,000 reactions?
 > >>>
 > >>> Harshad - Did you
 think the article failed to consider social issues?
 > >> There
 > >>> is no information
 about you on the xmca membership page, so it is
 > >>> difficult to know
 from what part of the world you are writing.
 > >>> Unless I miss my
 guess, some people will wonder at your use of the
 > >>> word "man" where the
 local practice might put "humankind" or some
 > >>> other gender
 inclusive term.
 > >>>
 > >>> David - Daylight
 saving time tonight so I find myself "working
 > >>> late."  It got
 me to wondering how many people live in Seoul. A lot,
 > it turns out.
 > >>> About 9-10 million.
 That got me to wondering about how much faster
 > >>> all those people
 would be getting around on horses with all the
 > >>> horse plops
 > >> to
 > >>> clamber over. And all
 that hay to haul into town for the morning
 > >>> rush hour.  :-)
 > >>>
 > >>> mike
 > >>>
 > >>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2018
 at 8:25 PM, Glassman, Michael
 > >>> <glassman.13@osu.edu>
 > >>> wrote:
 > >>>
 > >>>> Hi David,
 > >>>>
 > >>>> I'm sure those
 meddling kids won't come back on your lawn any time
 > soon.
 > >>>>
 > >>>> But really, the
 article did not say Facebook is a new type of
 > >> technology.
 > >>>> I believe they
 said that it's a form of human-technology
 > >>>> interaction and
 suggested perhaps social media was a new type of
 > >>>> human-technology
 interaction.  I don't agree with this phrasing. I
 > >>>> tend to think of
 > >> Facebook
 > >>>> more as an
 application of Internet technology - but either way
 > >>>> Facebook
 > >> is
 > >>>> just a form or an
 application. Is the internetworking of computer,
 > >>>> radio and
 satellite communication an enormous step forward in how
 > >>>> humans
 communicate.  I think so - it's really extraordinary on
 a
 > >>>> number of
 > >> levels
 > >>>> but that's really
 not the conversation for this article.
 > >>>>
 > >>>> I do think the
 authors have done an analysis that is interesting
 > >>>> and possibly
 important, especially when one considers what is
 > >>>> currently
 > >> going
 > >>>> on down in
 Parkland (some might be happy to know that, at least
 > >>>> from
 > >> what I
 > >>>> have read,
 Facebook isn't dominant or even that important for these
 > >>>> students. Adults
 have been using it more for larger organizational
 > >> events
 > >>>> like the March 14
 walkout and the March 24 march).  I have read
 > >>>> some articles on
 organizing on online forums (and actually wrote a
 > >>>> not very
 > >> good
 > >>>> one a few years
 back). Most of them are communications based an
 > >>>> don't
 > >> have
 > >>>> strong
 theoretical underpinning which is why I think this article
 > >>>> might
 > >> be
 > >>>> an important step
 forward.
 > >>>>
 > >>>> I think the idea
 of using third generation activity theory might be
 > >>>> a
 > >> good
 > >>>> idea for this
 type of analysis. I myself have seen ties between the
 > >>>> trialogical
 approach being developed by Hakkareinan and Paavola and
 > >> what is
 > >>>> going on down in
 Parkland. The students are creating their own
 > >>>> projects
 > >> and
 > >>>> then getting the
 larger community to buy in to and support what
 > >>>> they are doing
 which is in turn changing the quality of their
 > >>>> activities. I
 have
 > >> my
 > >>>> own ideas on why
 this is suddenly happening and direct
 > >>>> communication
 technologies like Twitter and texting (which seem
 > >>>> primary vehicles)
 are only part of it.
 > >>>>
 > >>>> Anyway, this
 particular article I think is really timely and should
 > >>>> give us a lot to
 think about.
 > >>>>
 > >>>> Michael
 > >>>>
 > >>>> -----Original
 Message-----
 > >>>> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
 [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@
 > >>>> mailman.ucsd.edu]
 On Behalf Of David Kellogg
 > >>>> Sent: Sunday,
 March 11, 2018 6:03 PM
 > >>>> To: eXtended
 Mind, Culture, Activity <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
 > >>>> Subject: [Xmca-l]
 Re: Article for discussion: Facebook in Brazilian
 > >> schools
 > >>>> So in the
 fifteenth century, Gutenberg exapted extant technology
 > >>>> already widely
 available in China and published a single text using
 > >>>> moveable
 > >> type
 > >>>> which started a
 profound intellectual, cultural, and social
 > >>>> revolution whose
 effects we still feel today: the rise of
 > >>>> Protestantism,
 the Counter-Reformation in, among other places,
 > >>>> Brazil, the Wars
 of
 > >> Religion in
 > >>>> France, the
 vicissitudes of a multii-confessional (political) State
 > >>>> and ultimately
 those of a multi-confessional (psychological) state,
 > >>>> In the twentieth
 century, Ford similarly exapted extant technology,
 > >>>> this time nearly
 two millenia later than China, and mass-produced
 > >>>> automobiles
 > >> using
 > >>>> Taylorism,
 forcing everybody to buy an identical product with
 > >>>> interchangeable
 parts made by factories with interchangeable workers.
 > >>>> The automobile
 "revolution" did not even give us new roads, and in
 > >>>> Seoul today
 traffic moves notably slower than it would on
 > >>>> horseback.
 Clearly, there are some forms of technology that are
 > >>>> actually
 semiogenic--and
 > >> others
 > >>>> which merely
 circulate capital at a faster rate and actually slow
 > >>>> the movement of
 people and new ideas.
 > >>>>
 > >>>> So my question is
 very simple. How do we know that "Facebook"
 > >>>> (which as the
 name implies was originally designed to help Harvard
 > >>>> freshmen decide
 which classmates were sufficiently hot to "like")
 > >>>> is really one of
 the former technologies?.There are very clear
 > >>>> signs , beyond
 the obvious
 > >> ones
 > >>>> surrounding the
 American origins, that it belongs to the latter
 > >> category,
 > >>>> and not a few of
 them appear in this very article. First of all,
 > >>>> the authors are
 honest enough to associate Facebook with
 > >>>> reactionary,
 xenophobic, populist movements like the clowns who run
 > the "Five Stars"
 > >>>> movement in
 Italy. Second, on the very first page, the authors try
 > >>>> but
 > >> do
 > >>>> not really seem
 to be able to distinguish between the "post first
 > >>>> and organize
 later" technologies of Occupy Wall Street and the use
 > >>>> of social media
 by the four movements in the article (including one
 > >>>> actually
 > >> called
 > >>>> "Occupy
 Everything"). And thirdly, it is very hard for me to
 > >>>> pinpoint
 > >> any
 > >>>> actual new form
 of thinking or new form of speaking which was made
 > >> possible
 > >>>> by Facebook. If
 anything, Facebook seems to narrow semiogenic power
 > >>>> to a single
 consumer/computer menu. Ford said, you can get a Model
 > >>>> A in any color
 you like so long as it's black. Facebook tells us
 > >>>> the same thing,
 > >> but
 > >>>> makes the verb
 "like" intransitive.
 > >>>>
 > >>>> David Kellogg
 > >>>> Sangmyung
 University
 > >>>>
 > >>>> Recent Article in
 *Early Years*
 > >>>>
 > >>>> The question of
 questions: Hasan’s critiques, Vygotsky’s crises,
 > >>>> and the child’s
 first interrogatives <https://www.tandfonline.com/
 > >>>>
 doi/full/10.1080/09575146.2018.1431874>
 > >>>>
 > >>>> Free e-print
 available at:
 > >>>> https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/6EeWMigjFARavQjDJjcW/full
 > >>>>
 > >>>>
 > >>>> On Sun, Mar 11,
 2018 at 7:30 AM, Alfredo Jornet Gil <
 > >> a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
 > >>>> wrote:
 > >>>>
 > >>>>> Dear
 xmca'ers,
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>> it is (bit
 over) due time for introducing the article for
 > >>>>> discussion
 from MCA's 2018 Issue 1, before Issue 2 comes upon us
 > soon.
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>> The selected
 article, by Monica Ferreira Lemos and Fernando
 > >>>>> Rezende da
 Cunha Júnior, is about two topics that were thematised
 > >>>>> in the last
 ISCAR congress and that ought to be of much relevance
 > >>>>> to current
 and future CHAT-related research: Social media and
 > >>>>> social
 movements. In particular, the article examines how students
 > >>>>> use social
 media for the organization and development of 4 social
 > movements in Brazil.
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>> The article
 is attached and is Free access during the discussion
 > >> period.
 > >>>>> It can be
 accessed free in the following link:
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>> https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10749039.2017.1379823
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>> The authors
 have kindly agreed to participate in the discussion
 > >>>>> and they will
 be introducing themselves soon. I hope you  will
 > >>>>> find the
 article interesting and please don't be shy to share
 > >>>>> anything you
 might have learned reading it, anything you might
 > >>>>> wonder about
 it or that you would like see discussed. Having
 > >>>>> authors
 engage in dialogue is a great opportunity that this
 > >>>>> community
 offers and that makes sense the most when many of you
 > participate. Good reading!
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>> ?
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>> Alfredo
 Jornet
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>> New article
 in *Design Studies* "Imagning Design: Transitive and
 > >>>>> intransitive
 dimensions"
 > >>>>> Free print
 available:
 > >>>>> https://authors.elsevier.com/a/1WhHg_,KmyN6Dr
 > >>>>>
 > >>
 > >
 >
 >



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