[Xmca-l] Re: xmca-l Digest, Vol 59, Issue 3: respons to Andy and Alfredo's comments on restating funds of identity

Wed Jun 20 20:23:57 PDT 2018

I’d just like to briefly respond to Andy’s and Alfredo’s comments about the article. They have really helped to bring into focus certain aspects of the paper (catharsis/transformation) that we will certainly return to in future work.

Andy:

Think of the origin of the idea of "catharsis." Originally
> it referred to the experience of an audience watching a
> Greek drama - their own emotions are played out in front of
> them. Later is referred to a medical method of "purging" an
> illness through vomiting, and it was adapted from there to
> refer to the talking cure, in which the patient externalised
> their problem with the help of the therapist. From
> psychotherapy it entered popular culture as an image of
> someone experiencing a traumatic personal transformation, I
> think.
>
>
> You may be quite right in terms of phases, Adam, but I think
> "reflection" and "catharsis" are closely tied together. I
> talked a lot about catharsis being to do with "processing"
> an experience, overcoming it, integrating it into one's
> personality, which does indeed sound like something very
> different from "catharsis" as I've just described it.
>
>
> It's up to you guys who are doing the qualitative research
> to figure it out though.
>
>
> Andy
>

My response

Thanks for your response to my explanation about catharsis. I plan on replicating the methodology in a future study, so it will be interesting to see what the data reveals about reflection and catharsis. For sure, the next study will need to engage with the many ‘lives’ of catharsis, as it is somewhat ambiguous in nature and therefore needs to be addressed.

I think an interesting idea to come out of this dialogue is the dialectical relationship between theory and method. Theory is applied, but in applying the theory it is also transformed, and so on.

Alfredo

Adam, this was a great introduction, not wordy at all; so thank you so much! Like Andy, I also liked your article very much, particularly because it offers a fresh look to an increasingly used concept, and for how it repeatedly draws practical implications on how the notion may lead to awareness of the grow and change opportunities that exist in re-working of experience as we bring experiences to bear in new situations. Not a focus on positive or the negative but on the transformational character. This is just an appreciation, not a question, or a request; I am sure Moises will bring several of those much more relevant. I am copying two quotations from your article that speak to this transformational character, and, felicitously, in a "fundamentally optimistic" orientation despite the reference to possible negativity and crisis:

"Existential funds of identity are thus defined as positive and negative experiences that students develop and appropriate to define themselves and use to help them grow as human beings."

"We consider the notion of existential funds of identity to be fundamentally optimistic in its orientation toward the transformation of critical moments through catharsis and integration with the personality."

My response

Thanks for highlighting the two quotations. They really encapsulate what existential funds of identity is all about: the fact that it is designed to facilitate transformation as a result of working over a critical episode. It is important to keep in mind that negative experiences, for us, can only be productive in identity and pedagogy work if they are orientated towards a positive outcome – reaffirming identities or building connections between home and school. To simply draw upon negative experiences for the sake of it would most likely lead to the reinforcement of deficit discourses. The act of valorising, recognising the complex and ambivalent lifeworlds which many students inhabit, is one such way to orientate negative experiences towards a positive outcome. Moreover, allowing those lifeworlds to be expressed in the classroom is also another positive outcome, as is creating space in the busy curriculum (which in our context is typified by regimes of assessment) for students to draw upon their out-of-school lives. Sometimes, I feel that I have to demolish curriculum and assessment in order to make space! What connects them all is the potential for pedagogical and psychological transformation.

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Resituating Funds of Identity (Andy Blunden)
   2. Resituating funds of identity within contemporary
      interpretations of perezhivanie - discussion (Adam Poole (16517826))
   3. Re: Resituating funds of identity within contemporary
      interpretations of perezhivanie - discussion (Alfredo Jornet Gil)
   4. Re: Resituating Funds of Identity (Adam Poole (16517826))
   5. Re: Resituating Funds of Identity (Andy Blunden)
   6. Re: Resituating Funds of Identity (MOISES ESTEBAN-GUITART)
   7. Re-situating funds of identity within contemporary
      interpretations of perezhivanie (Adam Poole (16517826))
   8.  SCRD and U.S. immigration policy statement (David Preiss)
   9. Re: SCRD and U.S. immigration policy statement (David Preiss)
  10. Re: SCRD and U.S. immigration policy statement
      (Alfredo Jornet Gil)
  11. Re: cultural constructions of childhood? (David Preiss)
  12. Re: FW: Fyi (David Preiss)
  13.  A new book, and a new translation (Engestr?m)

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Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 00:52:58 +1000
From: Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org>
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Resituating Funds of Identity
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I really liked this paper. I would like to make a brief
response on the following passage which cites my own work:

    "Accordingly, Blunden distinguished three main units or
    phases in his account of /perezhivanie/,
    which, according to our data, occur in the following
    order: critical episode, reflection, catharsis
    and integration. That said, it has to be stressed that
    this movement may not be linear or occur in the
    order that we here present. We define the three phases
    of a /perezhivanie/ as follows:
    ? Critical episode: a traumatic experience or a
    life-changing episode in one?s life that leads to a
    blockage in psychological development.
    ? Reflection: the process of becoming conscious of,
    reflecting on, and talking about the critical
    episode with a significant other, such as a teacher or a
    parent.
    ? Catharsis and integration: the processing or working
    over of a critical episode in order to
    assimilate it into the personality."

The summary is a good one. As to the interpretation in dot
point, I would make the following observations:

  * The critical episode may be an /unblocking/. I often
    reflect on an important /perezhivanie /in my life in
    which a protracted negative experience of which I was
    hardly conscious, I broke through in one critical
    episode only seconds in duration which was utterly
    exhilarating, and as it happened the world changed
    around me and I became new person, in my own and others'
    eyes.
  * Reflection is an integral part of catharsis I think. I
    don't know how I would express this in terms of
    "phases." I really see it as a two-phase process, though
    on reflection just now, I have realised that there was a
    gradual phase preceding the critical episode which I had
    not thought about before. I grant that there are
    internal "meditative" processes as well as changes in
    social interaction. So the distinction between the
    internal and external processes is valid, but I don't
    think they can be separated in 'phases'.

While I agree that a dichotomy between positive and negative
experiences is questionable, the distinction is needed. The
positive episode is developmental only because of the
preceding negative experience preceding it.

Andy

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Andy Blunden
http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
On 15/06/2018 4:48 PM, Alfredo Jornet Gil wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
>
> it's been a quiet period here in xmca lately, partly, ?I
> am afraid, due to my failure to initiate or follow up the
> otherwis?e many and insightful conversations that
> characterise the list during this end of semester. But I
> am back with an invitation that I hope you will find
> interesting and, hopefully, worth participating in.
>
>
> I am attaching an article included in our Issue 2, for
> discussion here at xmca, but in a slightly new format.
>
>
> The article is entitled ??/Resituating Funds of Identity
> Within Contemporary Interpretations of Perezhivanie, ?/by
> Adam Poole and Jingyi
> Huang. Extending conceptualisations of funds of knowledge
> and funds of identity by means of drawing a connection
> with the concept perezhivanie, the authors present the
> idea of *existential* funds of identity. What makes
> interesting this latter concept is that, by contrast to a
> most frequent sole focus on positive community resources
> as constituting those funds of knowledge/activity, Poole
> and Huang propose exploring how not only positive, but
> also negative, life-changing experiences may become a
> potential resource for individual/collective activity.
>
>
> Usually, we invite the author to discuss with us her/his
> article. This time, we have also invited a discussant with
> extensive experience in the field of funds of knowledge.
> Thus, Adam Poole, as first author of the study, will be
> with us, sharing his views, motives, and challenges in
> developing the study. As discussant, we will have Moises
> Esteban-Guitart, who has kindly agreed to initiate the
> discussion and engage in what promises to be an exciting
> and constructive dialogue. They will be joining us soon,
> and we have also identified a list of scholars interested
> in similar issues that may be chiming in as we move on. In
> the meantime, I hope that many of you will get the chance
> to have a look at this interesting article and find it
> worth discussing. And of course, as always, everyone is
> welcome to contribute to the discussion.
>
>
> Looking forward to an engaging discussion,
>
> Alfredo
>
>
>
>
>

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Hi all,

I'd thought I'd get the ball rolling on discussion of my article 'Resituating Funds of Identity Within Contemporary Interpretations of Perezhivanie' by just offering a brief introduction of myself and the inspiration for writing the article. I'd like to thank Alfredo for introducing it to you all and giving me the chance to discuss it in the form of an email dialogue - a first for me.

So, my name is Adam Poole and I am a practitioner-researcher based in Shanghai, China. I'm currently an International Baccalaureate (IB) teacher in an international school called YK Pao, and am in the final stages of completing my doctoral research into the construction of international teacher identity. Once I have gained my doctorate, I hope to become more engaged in academic research. My co-author, who is sadly not available for this dialogue, also teaches IB and is working on a master's degree. At the time of the paper's composition, we were both teaching in the same school. I have since moved on to YK Pao.

I became acquainted with the funds of knowledge concept through my doctoral studies, and this lead me to the work of Moises Esteban-Guitart and his related approach, funds of identity. I had conducted some empirical research into my own students' funds of identity, which gave birth to a paper ('I want to be a furious leopard') and the notion of existential funds of identity. In contrast to the majority of funds of identity studies that focused on 'light or positive experiences, my findings included more problematic experiences, such as peer pressure, physical appearance, and alienation. I labelled these 'existential funds of identity' as to me they seemed to represent an ambivalent form of funds of identity - both light and dark.

This lead me to wanting to propose extending the concept of funds of identity in order to encompass both 'light' and 'dark' funds of identity. Then I came across a Symposium edition of Mind, Culture and Activity on Perezhivanie. On reading the articles, particularly Andy Bluden's and Gonzalez Rey's, I had something of a 'light bulb' moment: the notion of a perezhivanie as a working over of a critical episode could be incorporated into the funds of identity concept in order to bring together both positive and negative experiences. The idea is that negative experiences can be harnessed positively  by teachers if they are used to advance students' pedagogical or psychological development. Moreover, exploring both negative and positive experiences can also help the teacher to see the student as a complete human being and to engage with their lived experience rather than the teacher imposing their own lived experience (and deficit thinking) on the student. In so doing, teachers might also undergo a transformational experience by working through their own deficit thinking about minoritised learners.

That is the context of the article. I apologise if this introduction is a little wordy. I believe Moises will pick up the dialogue by commenting on an aspect of the paper for further discussion. However, if any one would like to engage with the article please feel free to get stuck in.

Cheers,

Adam

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   1. Re: cultural constructions of childhood? (Katherine Wester Neal)
   2. Re: cultural constructions of childhood? (Greg Thompson)
   3. Re: cultural constructions of childhood? (Greg Thompson)
   4.  Necessities and Necessariness (David Kellogg)
   5. Re: Necessities and Necessariness (Andy Blunden)
   6.  Resituating Funds of Identity (Alfredo Jornet Gil)

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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 01:13:52 +0000
From: Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu>
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Thanks again! I'd forgotten about the Babies movie, and yes, it's perfect for this course. Now I have lots of reading to do!

If a database of collected works becomes available, I'd be happy to post the syllabus. It's for an undergrad seminar course.

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Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 5:00:34 PM
To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?

That was a great list of recommendations you got, Katie, I am glad.

Things are going slower than anticipated, but hopefully we will sooner than later have a web platform for collecting this type of resources, such as course syllabus, etc. in one place, so that next time someone looks for the same, they can find it immediately. Right now, is still possible to do searches using keywords in xmca: http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/index.html but we are hoping this will be very much improved. ?

Cheers,

Alfredo

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Sent: 05 June 2018 22:12
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Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?

Some resources here too:

<http://hraf.yale.edu/a-cross-cultural-perspective-on-childhood/>

Martin

On Jun 5, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu<mailto:wester@uga.edu>> wrote:

Yes, very helpful suggestions, and thank you! Potential article suggestions also welcome... :)

Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Teacher Education & Literacy
Gordon State College

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From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu<mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu<mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>> on behalf of Jonathan Tudge <jrtudge@uncg.edu<mailto:jrtudge@uncg.edu>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 2:24:18 PM
To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?

Hi, Katie,

Here's another one that you might find interesting.

I, personally, think it's brilliant.

https://www.amazon.com/Everyday-Lives-Young-Children-Societies-ebook/dp/B00190VF0Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1528222902&sr=8-1&keywords=everyday+lives+of+young+children%3A+culture%2C+class+and+child+rearing

Cheers,

Jon

~~~~~~~~~~~

Jonathan Tudge

Professor
Office: 155 Stone

Our work on gratitude: http://morethanthanks.wp.uncg.edu/

A new book just published: Tudge, J. & Freitas, L. (Eds.) Developing gratitude in children and adolescents<https://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge/books/dev-gratitude-in-children-and-adolescents-flyer.pdf>, Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press

My web site:http://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge

Mailing address:
248 Stone Building
Department of Human Development and Family Studies
PO Box 26170
The University of North Carolina at Greensboro
Greensboro, NC 27402-6170
USA

phone (336) 223-6181
fax   (336) 334-5076

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Martin Packer <mpacker@cantab.net<mailto:mpacker@cantab.net>> wrote:
Katie, I believe that someone mentioned this?  :)

<https://www.amazon.com/Child-Development-Understanding-Cultural-Perspective/dp/1473993377>

Martin

"I may say that whenever I meet Mrs. Seligman or Dr. Lowie or discuss matters with Radcliffe-Brown or Kroeber, I become at once aware that my partner does not understand anything in the matter, and I end usually with the feeling that this also applies to myself? (Malinowski, 1930)

On Jun 5, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu<mailto:wester@uga.edu>> wrote:

Hello xmca-ers,

Long time reader, rare contributor with a question for a course I'll be teaching soon. Besides Rogoff's Cultural Nature of Human Development, what else would you recommend in that vein? In the course, we will be exploring multiple constructions of childhood across different cultures.

Thanks for your help,
Katie

Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Teacher Education & Literacy
Gordon State College

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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 13:22:31 +0900
From: Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
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Hopefully not too late, David Lancy's The Anthropology of Childhood:
Cherubs, Chattel, and Changelings has a nice sampling of childhoods across
multiple cultures.

Also, some classics from a Western historical perspective:
Joseph Kett's Rites of Passage: Adolescence in America 1790 to Present
Phillip Aries' Centuries of Childhood

And a sociological one that looked interesting:
https://books.google.co.kr/books?hl=en&lr=&id=q_EjCQAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PP1&dq=anthropology+and+the+construction+of+childhood&ots=EiPR30OMTA&sig=MUq_2SbvNv0MKZAx9DggFETLTi0#v=onepage&q=anthropology%20and%20the%20construction%20of%20childhood&f=false

And I came across this more accessible book while searching for the Kett
and thought it might be useful (I haven't read it and so can't vouch for
quality):
https://books.google.co.kr/books?hl=en&lr=&id=A19CDwAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PT7&dq=kett+history+of+childhood&ots=EJq_5BUBr4&sig=g_CvUkXGi32W18dhwKP-IZZecdI#v=onepage&q=kett%20history%20of%20childhood&f=false

Good luck!
-greg

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu>
wrote:

> Thanks again! I'd forgotten about the * Babies* movie, and yes, it's
> perfect for this course. Now I have lots of reading to do!
>
>
> If a database of collected works becomes available, I'd be happy to post
> the syllabus. It's for an undergrad seminar course.
> ------------------------------
> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> on behalf of Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 5:00:34 PM
>
> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>
>
> That was a great list of recommendations you got, Katie, I am glad.
>
>
> Things are going slower than anticipated, but hopefully we will sooner
> than later have a web platform for collecting this type of resources, such
> as course syllabus, etc. in one place, so that next time someone looks for
> the same, they can find it immediately. Right now, is still possible to do
> searches using keywords in xmca: http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/index.html but
> we are hoping this will be very much improved. ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alfredo
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> on behalf of Martin Packer <mpacker@cantab.net>
> *Sent:* 05 June 2018 22:12
> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>
> Some resources here too:
>
> <http://hraf.yale.edu/a-cross-cultural-perspective-on-childhood/>
>
> Martin
>
>
>
> On Jun 5, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu> wrote:
>
> Yes, very helpful suggestions, and thank you! Potential article
> suggestions also welcome... :)
>
> Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Teacher Education & Literacy
> Gordon State College
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> on behalf of Jonathan Tudge <jrtudge@uncg.edu>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 2:24:18 PM
> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>
> Hi, Katie,
>
> Here's another one that you might find interesting.
>
> I, personally, think it's brilliant.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Everyday-Lives-Young-Children-
> Societies-ebook/dp/B00190VF0Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=
> 1528222902&sr=8-1&keywords=everyday+lives+of+young+
> children%3A+culture%2C+class+and+child+rearing
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jon
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Jonathan Tudge
>
> Professor
> Office: 155 Stone
>
> Our work on gratitude: http://morethanthanks.wp.uncg.edu/
>
> A new book just published: Tudge, J. & Freitas, L. (Eds.) Developing
> gratitude in children and adolescents
> <https://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge/books/dev-gratitude-in-children-and-adolescents-flyer.pdf>,
> Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press
>
> My web site:http://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge
>
> Mailing address:
> 248 Stone Building
> Department of Human Development and Family Studies
> PO Box 26170
> The University of North Carolina at Greensboro
> Greensboro, NC 27402-6170
> USA
>
> phone (336) 223-6181
> fax   (336) 334-5076
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Martin Packer <mpacker@cantab.net> wrote:
>
> Katie, I believe that someone mentioned this?  :)
>
> <https://www.amazon.com/Child-Development-Understanding-Cult
> ural-Perspective/dp/1473993377>
>
> Martin
>
> *"I may say that whenever I meet Mrs. Seligman or Dr. Lowie or discuss
> matters with Radcliffe-Brown or Kroeber, I become at once aware that my
> partner does not understand anything in the matter, and I end usually with
> the feeling that this also applies to myself? (Malinowski, 1930)*
>
>
>
> On Jun 5, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu> wrote:
>
> Hello xmca-ers,
>
> Long time reader, rare contributor with a question for a course I'll be
> teaching soon. Besides Rogoff's *Cultural Nature of Human Development*,
> what else would you recommend in that vein? In the course, we will be
> exploring multiple constructions of childhood across different cultures.
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Katie
>
> Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Teacher Education & Literacy
> Gordon State College
>
>
>
>
>

--
Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Department of Anthropology
880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
Brigham Young University
Provo, UT 84602
WEBSITE: greg.a.thompson.byu.edu
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Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 13:07:41 +0900
From: Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
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and a few more on the anthropology front (in case you are still interested):

Bambi Chapin's *Childhood in a Sri Lankan Village* is very good. Gottlieb
and De Loache have a new *A World of Babies* edition out.

?And ?
Elise Berman
? has a book coming out at the end of January that does some good
theorizing of "age", including "childhood". The title of her book is:
*Talking Like Children: Language and the Production of Age in the Marshall
Islands.* Oxford University Press

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:22 PM, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hopefully not too late, David Lancy's The Anthropology of Childhood:
> Cherubs, Chattel, and Changelings has a nice sampling of childhoods across
> multiple cultures.
>
> Also, some classics from a Western historical perspective:
> Joseph Kett's Rites of Passage: Adolescence in America 1790 to Present
> Phillip Aries' Centuries of Childhood
>
> And a sociological one that looked interesting:
> https://books.google.co.kr/books?hl=en&lr=&id=q_
> EjCQAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PP1&dq=anthropology+and+the+
> construction+of+childhood&ots=EiPR30OMTA&sig=MUq_
> 2SbvNv0MKZAx9DggFETLTi0#v=onepage&q=anthropology%20and%
> 20the%20construction%20of%20childhood&f=false
>
> And I came across this more accessible book while searching for the Kett
> and thought it might be useful (I haven't read it and so can't vouch for
> quality):
> https://books.google.co.kr/books?hl=en&lr=&id=
> A19CDwAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PT7&dq=kett+history+of+childhood&ots=
> EJq_5BUBr4&sig=g_CvUkXGi32W18dhwKP-IZZecdI#v=
> onepage&q=kett%20history%20of%20childhood&f=false
>
> Good luck!
> -greg
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks again! I'd forgotten about the * Babies* movie, and yes, it's
>> perfect for this course. Now I have lots of reading to do!
>>
>>
>> If a database of collected works becomes available, I'd be happy to post
>> the syllabus. It's for an undergrad seminar course.
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> on behalf of Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 5:00:34 PM
>>
>> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>>
>>
>> That was a great list of recommendations you got, Katie, I am glad.
>>
>>
>> Things are going slower than anticipated, but hopefully we will sooner
>> than later have a web platform for collecting this type of resources, such
>> as course syllabus, etc. in one place, so that next time someone looks for
>> the same, they can find it immediately. Right now, is still possible to do
>> searches using keywords in xmca: http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/index.html but
>> we are hoping this will be very much improved. ?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Alfredo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> on behalf of Martin Packer <mpacker@cantab.net>
>> *Sent:* 05 June 2018 22:12
>> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>>
>> Some resources here too:
>>
>> <http://hraf.yale.edu/a-cross-cultural-perspective-on-childhood/>
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 5, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, very helpful suggestions, and thank you! Potential article
>> suggestions also welcome... :)
>>
>> Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
>> Assistant Professor
>> Teacher Education & Literacy
>> Gordon State College
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> on behalf of Jonathan Tudge <jrtudge@uncg.edu>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 2:24:18 PM
>> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>>
>> Hi, Katie,
>>
>> Here's another one that you might find interesting.
>>
>> I, personally, think it's brilliant.
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Everyday-Lives-Young-Children-Societi
>> es-ebook/dp/B00190VF0Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1528222902&sr=
>> 8-1&keywords=everyday+lives+of+young+children%3A+culture%
>> 2C+class+and+child+rearing
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Jonathan Tudge
>>
>> Professor
>> Office: 155 Stone
>>
>> Our work on gratitude: http://morethanthanks.wp.uncg.edu/
>>
>> A new book just published: Tudge, J. & Freitas, L. (Eds.) Developing
>> gratitude in children and adolescents
>> <https://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge/books/dev-gratitude-in-children-and-adolescents-flyer.pdf>,
>> Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press
>>
>> My web site:http://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge
>>
>> Mailing address:
>> 248 Stone Building
>> Department of Human Development and Family Studies
>> PO Box 26170
>> The University of North Carolina at Greensboro
>> Greensboro, NC 27402-6170
>> USA
>>
>> phone (336) 223-6181
>> fax   (336) 334-5076
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Martin Packer <mpacker@cantab.net> wrote:
>>
>> Katie, I believe that someone mentioned this?  :)
>>
>> <https://www.amazon.com/Child-Development-Understanding-Cult
>> ural-Perspective/dp/1473993377>
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> *"I may say that whenever I meet Mrs. Seligman or Dr. Lowie or discuss
>> matters with Radcliffe-Brown or Kroeber, I become at once aware that my
>> partner does not understand anything in the matter, and I end usually with
>> the feeling that this also applies to myself? (Malinowski, 1930)*
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 5, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello xmca-ers,
>>
>> Long time reader, rare contributor with a question for a course I'll be
>> teaching soon. Besides Rogoff's *Cultural Nature of Human Development*,
>> what else would you recommend in that vein? In the course, we will be
>> exploring multiple constructions of childhood across different cultures.
>>
>> Thanks for your help,
>> Katie
>>
>> Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
>> Assistant Professor
>> Teacher Education & Literacy
>> Gordon State College
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
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> Assistant Professor
> Department of Anthropology
> 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
> Brigham Young University
> Provo, UT 84602
> WEBSITE: greg.a.thompson.byu.edu
> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
>

--
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Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 07:00:06 +0900
From: David Kellogg <dkellogg60@gmail.com>
Subject: [Xmca-l]  Necessities and Necessariness
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Andy has an amazing on-line discussion, going back almost exactly two
decades, on "Freedom as the Recognition of Necessity", which was Engels's
exaptation of a Heglian formulation (which in turn comes from Spinoza.

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/txt/davie07.htm

As I understand it, Andy is arguing that freedom as the recognition of
necessity in Hegel and Spinoza is a kind of philosophical resignation to
one's fate, but in Marx and Vygotsky it is a kind of active realization of
one's own labor and hence one's own selfhood in the transformation of the
environment.

The Soviet model of Marxism is a negation of both of these.  On the one
hand, externalization is active in nature, because it really involves
turning the tables on the environment and forcing it to adapt to human
necessities. And on the other hand it has very little room for "one's own
labor" and still less for "one's own selfhood": "One" is not a
statistically significant, hence not a necessary, number.

I think one way to reconcile this view with Andy's view is to make a
distinction between externalization as the recognition of the necessariness
of necessities, and externalization as the recognition of both one's own
necessariness and that of others. These seem to me to be two distinct
processes, belonging to two different stages of development (and to the
deveopment of tools on the one hand and signs on the other). But perhaps
"seem" is the word I should be stressing.

(In the article linked below, which I did with my wife, there is this four
year old girl who is trying to learn the times tables. She keeps getting
stuck: Why can't you just put three and five together and get thirty five?
Her grandmother is old school: your solution counts for nothing: Your
presumed necessariness is not as important as instrumental necessity. And
of course at one stage of development that is true; but "sustainable
development" is everywhere and always a contradiction in terms: no
development can ever sustain itself against itself.)

David Kellogg
Sangmyung University

New in *Early Years*, co-authored with Fang Li:

When three fives are thirty-five: Vygotsky in a Hallidayan idiom ? and
maths in the grandmother tongue

Some free e-prints available at:

https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/7I8zYW3qkEqNBA66XAwS/full
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Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 12:00:59 +1000
From: Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org>
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Necessities and Necessariness
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David,

The text you have discovered is indeed 20 years old. At that
time I knew nothing about Hegel, and nor could I find anyone
to learn from, and there were very few philosophical texts
available on the nascent internet. So I started copy-typing
Hegel texts on to my web site and encouraging people to
discuss them. This was my own do-it-yourself university. And
I have preserved this old discussion in case they are of use
to others.

Now, the text you discovered is written *all* by my old
friend Davie MacLean, who was in those days a big fan of
Heidegger but an avid student of all philosophy. The first
part is addressed to me and the second part copied from a
letter from Davie to Cyril Smith, my star participant in
that discussion. Davie and I were both enthralled with
Cyril's new book, "Marx at the Millennium" and Cyril's
participation was an attractor for people to join in the
discussion.

Here are some messages from Cyril to give you context:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/txt/cyril25.htm

Much as I enjoyed my debates with Davie, I did not emerge
from them as a fan of Heidegger. During the past 6 months I
have been spending a lot of time studying Hegel's Philosophy
of Right. I certainly do not see the question, and nor did
Hegel, in terms of "reconciliation to one's fate," which is
indeed much closer to Spinoza's view.

Andy

------------------------------------------------------------
Andy Blunden
http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
On 9/06/2018 8:00 AM, David Kellogg wrote:
> Andy has an amazing on-line discussion, going back almost
> exactly two decades, on "Freedom as the Recognition of
> Necessity", which was Engels's exaptation of a Heglian
> formulation (which in turn comes from Spinoza.
>
> https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/txt/davie07.htm
>
> As I understand it, Andy is arguing that freedom as the
> recognition of necessity in Hegel and Spinoza is a kind of
> philosophical resignation to one's fate, but in Marx and
> Vygotsky it is a kind of active realization of one's own
> labor and hence one's own selfhood in the transformation
> of the environment.
>
> The Soviet model of Marxism is a negation of both of
> these.  On the one hand, externalization is active in
> nature, because it really involves turning the tables on
> the environment and forcing it to adapt to human
> necessities. And on the other hand it has very little room
> for "one's own labor" and still less for "one's own
> selfhood": "One" is not a statistically significant, hence
> not a necessary, number.
>
> I think one way to reconcile this view with Andy's view is
> to make a distinction between externalization as the
> recognition of the necessariness of necessities, and
> externalization as the recognition of both one's own
> necessariness and that of others. These seem to me to be
> two distinct processes, belonging to two different stages
> of development (and to the deveopment of tools on the one
> hand and signs on the other). But perhaps "seem" is the
> word I should be stressing.
>
> (In the article linked below, which I did with my
> wife, there is this four year old girl who is trying to
> learn the times tables. She keeps getting stuck: Why can't
> you just put three and five together and get thirty five?
> Her grandmother is old school: your solution counts for
> nothing: Your presumed necessariness is not as important
> as instrumental necessity. And of course at one stage of
> development that is true; but "sustainable development" is
> everywhere and always a contradiction in terms: no
> development can ever sustain itself against itself.)
>
> David Kellogg
> Sangmyung University
>
> New in /Early Years/, co-authored with Fang Li:
>
> When three fives are thirty-five: Vygotsky in a Hallidayan
> idiom ? and maths in the grandmother tongue
>
> Some free e-prints available at:
>
> https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/7I8zYW3qkEqNBA66XAwS/full
>
>

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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 06:48:18 +0000
From: Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
Subject: [Xmca-l]  Resituating Funds of Identity
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Dear all,

it's been a quiet period here in xmca lately, partly, ?I am afraid, due to my failure to initiate or follow up the otherwis?e many and insightful conversations that characterise the list during this end of semester. But I am back with an invitation that I hope you will find interesting and, hopefully, worth participating in.

I am attaching an article included in our Issue 2, for discussion here at xmca, but in a slightly new format.

The article is entitled ??Resituating Funds of Identity Within Contemporary Interpretations of Perezhivanie, ?by Adam Poole and Jingyi Huang. Extending conceptualisations of funds of knowledge and funds of identity by means of drawing a connection with the concept perezhivanie, the authors present the idea of *existential* funds of identity. What makes interesting this latter concept is that, by contrast to a most frequent sole focus on positive community resources as constituting those funds of knowledge/activity, Poole and Huang propose exploring how not only positive, but also negative, life-changing experiences may become a potential resource for individual/collective activity.

Usually, we invite the author to discuss with us her/his article. This time, we have also invited a discussant with extensive experience in the field of funds of knowledge. Thus, Adam Poole, as first author of the study, will be with us, sharing his views, motives, and challenges in developing the study. As discussant, we will have Moises Esteban-Guitart, who has kindly agreed to initiate the discussion and engage in what promises to be an exciting and constructive dialogue. They will be joining us soon, and we have also identified a list of scholars interested in similar issues that may be chiming in as we move on. In the meantime, I hope that many of you will get the chance to have a look at this interesting article and find it worth discussing. And of course, as always, everyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion.

Looking forward to an engaging discussion,

Alfredo

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Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 21:41:06 +0000
From: Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Resituating funds of identity within
        contemporary interpretations of perezhivanie - discussion
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?Adam, this was a great introduction, not wordy at all; so thank you so much! Like Andy, I also liked your article very much, particularly because it offers a fresh look to an increasingly used concept, and for how it repeatedly draws practical implications on how the notion may lead to awareness of the grow and change opportunities that exist in re-working of experience as we bring experiences to bear in new situations. Not a focus on positive or the negative but on the transformational character. This is just an appreciation, not a question, or a request; I am sure Moises will bring several of those much more relevant. I am copying two quotations from your article that speak to this transformational character, and, felicitously, in a "fundamentally optimistic" orientation despite the reference to possible negativity and crisis:

"Existential funds of identity are thus defined as positive and negative experiences that students develop and appropriate to define themselves and use to help them grow as human beings."

"We consider the notion of existential funds of identity to be fundamentally optimistic in its orientation toward the transformation of critical moments through catharsis and integration with the personality."

Alfredo

________________________________
From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of Adam Poole (16517826) <Adam.Poole@nottingham.edu.cn>
Sent: 16 June 2018 10:32
To: xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu
Subject: [Xmca-l] Resituating funds of identity within contemporary interpretations of perezhivanie - discussion

Hi all,

I'd thought I'd get the ball rolling on discussion of my article 'Resituating Funds of Identity Within Contemporary Interpretations of Perezhivanie' by just offering a brief introduction of myself and the inspiration for writing the article. I'd like to thank Alfredo for introducing it to you all and giving me the chance to discuss it in the form of an email dialogue - a first for me.

So, my name is Adam Poole and I am a practitioner-researcher based in Shanghai, China. I'm currently an International Baccalaureate (IB) teacher in an international school called YK Pao, and am in the final stages of completing my doctoral research into the construction of international teacher identity. Once I have gained my doctorate, I hope to become more engaged in academic research. My co-author, who is sadly not available for this dialogue, also teaches IB and is working on a master's degree. At the time of the paper's composition, we were both teaching in the same school. I have since moved on to YK Pao.

I became acquainted with the funds of knowledge concept through my doctoral studies, and this lead me to the work of Moises Esteban-Guitart and his related approach, funds of identity. I had conducted some empirical research into my own students' funds of identity, which gave birth to a paper ('I want to be a furious leopard') and the notion of existential funds of identity. In contrast to the majority of funds of identity studies that focused on 'light or positive experiences, my findings included more problematic experiences, such as peer pressure, physical appearance, and alienation. I labelled these 'existential funds of identity' as to me they seemed to represent an ambivalent form of funds of identity - both light and dark.

This lead me to wanting to propose extending the concept of funds of identity in order to encompass both 'light' and 'dark' funds of identity. Then I came across a Symposium edition of Mind, Culture and Activity on Perezhivanie. On reading the articles, particularly Andy Bluden's and Gonzalez Rey's, I had something of a 'light bulb' moment: the notion of a perezhivanie as a working over of a critical episode could be incorporated into the funds of identity concept in order to bring together both positive and negative experiences. The idea is that negative experiences can be harnessed positively  by teachers if they are used to advance students' pedagogical or psychological development. Moreover, exploring both negative and positive experiences can also help the teacher to see the student as a complete human being and to engage with their lived experience rather than the teacher imposing their own lived experience (and deficit thinking) on the student. In so doing, teachers might also undergo a transformational experience by working through their own deficit thinking about minoritised learners.

That is the context of the article. I apologise if this introduction is a little wordy. I believe Moises will pick up the dialogue by commenting on an aspect of the paper for further discussion. However, if any one would like to engage with the article please feel free to get stuck in.

Cheers,

Adam

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   4.  Necessities and Necessariness (David Kellogg)
   5. Re: Necessities and Necessariness (Andy Blunden)
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 01:13:52 +0000
From: Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu>
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
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Thanks again! I'd forgotten about the Babies movie, and yes, it's perfect for this course. Now I have lots of reading to do!

If a database of collected works becomes available, I'd be happy to post the syllabus. It's for an undergrad seminar course.

________________________________
From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 5:00:34 PM
To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?

That was a great list of recommendations you got, Katie, I am glad.

Things are going slower than anticipated, but hopefully we will sooner than later have a web platform for collecting this type of resources, such as course syllabus, etc. in one place, so that next time someone looks for the same, they can find it immediately. Right now, is still possible to do searches using keywords in xmca: http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/index.html but we are hoping this will be very much improved. ?

Cheers,

Alfredo

________________________________
From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of Martin Packer <mpacker@cantab.net>
Sent: 05 June 2018 22:12
To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?

Some resources here too:

<http://hraf.yale.edu/a-cross-cultural-perspective-on-childhood/>

Martin

On Jun 5, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu<mailto:wester@uga.edu>> wrote:

Yes, very helpful suggestions, and thank you! Potential article suggestions also welcome... :)

Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Teacher Education & Literacy
Gordon State College

________________________________
From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu<mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu<mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>> on behalf of Jonathan Tudge <jrtudge@uncg.edu<mailto:jrtudge@uncg.edu>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 2:24:18 PM
To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?

Hi, Katie,

Here's another one that you might find interesting.

I, personally, think it's brilliant.

https://www.amazon.com/Everyday-Lives-Young-Children-Societies-ebook/dp/B00190VF0Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1528222902&sr=8-1&keywords=everyday+lives+of+young+children%3A+culture%2C+class+and+child+rearing

Cheers,

Jon

~~~~~~~~~~~

Jonathan Tudge

Professor
Office: 155 Stone

Our work on gratitude: http://morethanthanks.wp.uncg.edu/

A new book just published: Tudge, J. & Freitas, L. (Eds.) Developing gratitude in children and adolescents<https://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge/books/dev-gratitude-in-children-and-adolescents-flyer.pdf>, Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press

My web site:http://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge

Mailing address:
248 Stone Building
Department of Human Development and Family Studies
PO Box 26170
The University of North Carolina at Greensboro
Greensboro, NC 27402-6170
USA

phone (336) 223-6181
fax   (336) 334-5076

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Martin Packer <mpacker@cantab.net<mailto:mpacker@cantab.net>> wrote:
Katie, I believe that someone mentioned this?  :)

<https://www.amazon.com/Child-Development-Understanding-Cultural-Perspective/dp/1473993377>

Martin

"I may say that whenever I meet Mrs. Seligman or Dr. Lowie or discuss matters with Radcliffe-Brown or Kroeber, I become at once aware that my partner does not understand anything in the matter, and I end usually with the feeling that this also applies to myself? (Malinowski, 1930)

On Jun 5, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu<mailto:wester@uga.edu>> wrote:

Hello xmca-ers,

Long time reader, rare contributor with a question for a course I'll be teaching soon. Besides Rogoff's Cultural Nature of Human Development, what else would you recommend in that vein? In the course, we will be exploring multiple constructions of childhood across different cultures.

Thanks for your help,
Katie

Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Teacher Education & Literacy
Gordon State College

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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 13:22:31 +0900
From: Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
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Hopefully not too late, David Lancy's The Anthropology of Childhood:
Cherubs, Chattel, and Changelings has a nice sampling of childhoods across
multiple cultures.

Also, some classics from a Western historical perspective:
Joseph Kett's Rites of Passage: Adolescence in America 1790 to Present
Phillip Aries' Centuries of Childhood

And a sociological one that looked interesting:
https://books.google.co.kr/books?hl=en&lr=&id=q_EjCQAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PP1&dq=anthropology+and+the+construction+of+childhood&ots=EiPR30OMTA&sig=MUq_2SbvNv0MKZAx9DggFETLTi0#v=onepage&q=anthropology%20and%20the%20construction%20of%20childhood&f=false

And I came across this more accessible book while searching for the Kett
and thought it might be useful (I haven't read it and so can't vouch for
quality):
https://books.google.co.kr/books?hl=en&lr=&id=A19CDwAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PT7&dq=kett+history+of+childhood&ots=EJq_5BUBr4&sig=g_CvUkXGi32W18dhwKP-IZZecdI#v=onepage&q=kett%20history%20of%20childhood&f=false

Good luck!
-greg

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu>
wrote:

> Thanks again! I'd forgotten about the * Babies* movie, and yes, it's
> perfect for this course. Now I have lots of reading to do!
>
>
> If a database of collected works becomes available, I'd be happy to post
> the syllabus. It's for an undergrad seminar course.
> ------------------------------
> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> on behalf of Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 5:00:34 PM
>
> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>
>
> That was a great list of recommendations you got, Katie, I am glad.
>
>
> Things are going slower than anticipated, but hopefully we will sooner
> than later have a web platform for collecting this type of resources, such
> as course syllabus, etc. in one place, so that next time someone looks for
> the same, they can find it immediately. Right now, is still possible to do
> searches using keywords in xmca: http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/index.html but
> we are hoping this will be very much improved. ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alfredo
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> on behalf of Martin Packer <mpacker@cantab.net>
> *Sent:* 05 June 2018 22:12
> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>
> Some resources here too:
>
> <http://hraf.yale.edu/a-cross-cultural-perspective-on-childhood/>
>
> Martin
>
>
>
> On Jun 5, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu> wrote:
>
> Yes, very helpful suggestions, and thank you! Potential article
> suggestions also welcome... :)
>
> Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Teacher Education & Literacy
> Gordon State College
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> on behalf of Jonathan Tudge <jrtudge@uncg.edu>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 2:24:18 PM
> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>
> Hi, Katie,
>
> Here's another one that you might find interesting.
>
> I, personally, think it's brilliant.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Everyday-Lives-Young-Children-
> Societies-ebook/dp/B00190VF0Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=
> 1528222902&sr=8-1&keywords=everyday+lives+of+young+
> children%3A+culture%2C+class+and+child+rearing
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jon
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Jonathan Tudge
>
> Professor
> Office: 155 Stone
>
> Our work on gratitude: http://morethanthanks.wp.uncg.edu/
>
> A new book just published: Tudge, J. & Freitas, L. (Eds.) Developing
> gratitude in children and adolescents
> <https://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge/books/dev-gratitude-in-children-and-adolescents-flyer.pdf>,
> Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press
>
> My web site:http://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge
>
> Mailing address:
> 248 Stone Building
> Department of Human Development and Family Studies
> PO Box 26170
> The University of North Carolina at Greensboro
> Greensboro, NC 27402-6170
> USA
>
> phone (336) 223-6181
> fax   (336) 334-5076
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Martin Packer <mpacker@cantab.net> wrote:
>
> Katie, I believe that someone mentioned this?  :)
>
> <https://www.amazon.com/Child-Development-Understanding-Cult
> ural-Perspective/dp/1473993377>
>
> Martin
>
> *"I may say that whenever I meet Mrs. Seligman or Dr. Lowie or discuss
> matters with Radcliffe-Brown or Kroeber, I become at once aware that my
> partner does not understand anything in the matter, and I end usually with
> the feeling that this also applies to myself? (Malinowski, 1930)*
>
>
>
> On Jun 5, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu> wrote:
>
> Hello xmca-ers,
>
> Long time reader, rare contributor with a question for a course I'll be
> teaching soon. Besides Rogoff's *Cultural Nature of Human Development*,
> what else would you recommend in that vein? In the course, we will be
> exploring multiple constructions of childhood across different cultures.
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Katie
>
> Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Teacher Education & Literacy
> Gordon State College
>
>
>
>
>

--
Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Department of Anthropology
880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
Brigham Young University
Provo, UT 84602
WEBSITE: greg.a.thompson.byu.edu
http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
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Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 13:07:41 +0900
From: Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
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and a few more on the anthropology front (in case you are still interested):

Bambi Chapin's *Childhood in a Sri Lankan Village* is very good. Gottlieb
and De Loache have a new *A World of Babies* edition out.

?And ?
Elise Berman
? has a book coming out at the end of January that does some good
theorizing of "age", including "childhood". The title of her book is:
*Talking Like Children: Language and the Production of Age in the Marshall
Islands.* Oxford University Press

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:22 PM, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hopefully not too late, David Lancy's The Anthropology of Childhood:
> Cherubs, Chattel, and Changelings has a nice sampling of childhoods across
> multiple cultures.
>
> Also, some classics from a Western historical perspective:
> Joseph Kett's Rites of Passage: Adolescence in America 1790 to Present
> Phillip Aries' Centuries of Childhood
>
> And a sociological one that looked interesting:
> https://books.google.co.kr/books?hl=en&lr=&id=q_
> EjCQAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PP1&dq=anthropology+and+the+
> construction+of+childhood&ots=EiPR30OMTA&sig=MUq_
> 2SbvNv0MKZAx9DggFETLTi0#v=onepage&q=anthropology%20and%
> 20the%20construction%20of%20childhood&f=false
>
> And I came across this more accessible book while searching for the Kett
> and thought it might be useful (I haven't read it and so can't vouch for
> quality):
> https://books.google.co.kr/books?hl=en&lr=&id=
> A19CDwAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PT7&dq=kett+history+of+childhood&ots=
> EJq_5BUBr4&sig=g_CvUkXGi32W18dhwKP-IZZecdI#v=
> onepage&q=kett%20history%20of%20childhood&f=false
>
> Good luck!
> -greg
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks again! I'd forgotten about the * Babies* movie, and yes, it's
>> perfect for this course. Now I have lots of reading to do!
>>
>>
>> If a database of collected works becomes available, I'd be happy to post
>> the syllabus. It's for an undergrad seminar course.
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> on behalf of Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 5:00:34 PM
>>
>> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>>
>>
>> That was a great list of recommendations you got, Katie, I am glad.
>>
>>
>> Things are going slower than anticipated, but hopefully we will sooner
>> than later have a web platform for collecting this type of resources, such
>> as course syllabus, etc. in one place, so that next time someone looks for
>> the same, they can find it immediately. Right now, is still possible to do
>> searches using keywords in xmca: http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/index.html but
>> we are hoping this will be very much improved. ?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Alfredo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> on behalf of Martin Packer <mpacker@cantab.net>
>> *Sent:* 05 June 2018 22:12
>> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>>
>> Some resources here too:
>>
>> <http://hraf.yale.edu/a-cross-cultural-perspective-on-childhood/>
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 5, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, very helpful suggestions, and thank you! Potential article
>> suggestions also welcome... :)
>>
>> Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
>> Assistant Professor
>> Teacher Education & Literacy
>> Gordon State College
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> on behalf of Jonathan Tudge <jrtudge@uncg.edu>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 2:24:18 PM
>> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>>
>> Hi, Katie,
>>
>> Here's another one that you might find interesting.
>>
>> I, personally, think it's brilliant.
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Everyday-Lives-Young-Children-Societi
>> es-ebook/dp/B00190VF0Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1528222902&sr=
>> 8-1&keywords=everyday+lives+of+young+children%3A+culture%
>> 2C+class+and+child+rearing
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Jonathan Tudge
>>
>> Professor
>> Office: 155 Stone
>>
>> Our work on gratitude: http://morethanthanks.wp.uncg.edu/
>>
>> A new book just published: Tudge, J. & Freitas, L. (Eds.) Developing
>> gratitude in children and adolescents
>> <https://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge/books/dev-gratitude-in-children-and-adolescents-flyer.pdf>,
>> Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press
>>
>> My web site:http://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge
>>
>> Mailing address:
>> 248 Stone Building
>> Department of Human Development and Family Studies
>> PO Box 26170
>> The University of North Carolina at Greensboro
>> Greensboro, NC 27402-6170
>> USA
>>
>> phone (336) 223-6181
>> fax   (336) 334-5076
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Martin Packer <mpacker@cantab.net> wrote:
>>
>> Katie, I believe that someone mentioned this?  :)
>>
>> <https://www.amazon.com/Child-Development-Understanding-Cult
>> ural-Perspective/dp/1473993377>
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> *"I may say that whenever I meet Mrs. Seligman or Dr. Lowie or discuss
>> matters with Radcliffe-Brown or Kroeber, I become at once aware that my
>> partner does not understand anything in the matter, and I end usually with
>> the feeling that this also applies to myself? (Malinowski, 1930)*
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 5, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello xmca-ers,
>>
>> Long time reader, rare contributor with a question for a course I'll be
>> teaching soon. Besides Rogoff's *Cultural Nature of Human Development*,
>> what else would you recommend in that vein? In the course, we will be
>> exploring multiple constructions of childhood across different cultures.
>>
>> Thanks for your help,
>> Katie
>>
>> Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
>> Assistant Professor
>> Teacher Education & Literacy
>> Gordon State College
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Department of Anthropology
> 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
> Brigham Young University
> Provo, UT 84602
> WEBSITE: greg.a.thompson.byu.edu
> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
>

--
Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Department of Anthropology
880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
Brigham Young University
Provo, UT 84602
WEBSITE: greg.a.thompson.byu.edu
http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
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Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 07:00:06 +0900
From: David Kellogg <dkellogg60@gmail.com>
Subject: [Xmca-l]  Necessities and Necessariness
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
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Andy has an amazing on-line discussion, going back almost exactly two
decades, on "Freedom as the Recognition of Necessity", which was Engels's
exaptation of a Heglian formulation (which in turn comes from Spinoza.

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/txt/davie07.htm

As I understand it, Andy is arguing that freedom as the recognition of
necessity in Hegel and Spinoza is a kind of philosophical resignation to
one's fate, but in Marx and Vygotsky it is a kind of active realization of
one's own labor and hence one's own selfhood in the transformation of the
environment.

The Soviet model of Marxism is a negation of both of these.  On the one
hand, externalization is active in nature, because it really involves
turning the tables on the environment and forcing it to adapt to human
necessities. And on the other hand it has very little room for "one's own
labor" and still less for "one's own selfhood": "One" is not a
statistically significant, hence not a necessary, number.

I think one way to reconcile this view with Andy's view is to make a
distinction between externalization as the recognition of the necessariness
of necessities, and externalization as the recognition of both one's own
necessariness and that of others. These seem to me to be two distinct
processes, belonging to two different stages of development (and to the
deveopment of tools on the one hand and signs on the other). But perhaps
"seem" is the word I should be stressing.

(In the article linked below, which I did with my wife, there is this four
year old girl who is trying to learn the times tables. She keeps getting
stuck: Why can't you just put three and five together and get thirty five?
Her grandmother is old school: your solution counts for nothing: Your
presumed necessariness is not as important as instrumental necessity. And
of course at one stage of development that is true; but "sustainable
development" is everywhere and always a contradiction in terms: no
development can ever sustain itself against itself.)

David Kellogg
Sangmyung University

New in *Early Years*, co-authored with Fang Li:

When three fives are thirty-five: Vygotsky in a Hallidayan idiom ? and
maths in the grandmother tongue

Some free e-prints available at:

https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/7I8zYW3qkEqNBA66XAwS/full
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Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 12:00:59 +1000
From: Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org>
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Necessities and Necessariness
To: xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu
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David,

The text you have discovered is indeed 20 years old. At that
time I knew nothing about Hegel, and nor could I find anyone
to learn from, and there were very few philosophical texts
available on the nascent internet. So I started copy-typing
Hegel texts on to my web site and encouraging people to
discuss them. This was my own do-it-yourself university. And
I have preserved this old discussion in case they are of use
to others.

Now, the text you discovered is written *all* by my old
friend Davie MacLean, who was in those days a big fan of
Heidegger but an avid student of all philosophy. The first
part is addressed to me and the second part copied from a
letter from Davie to Cyril Smith, my star participant in
that discussion. Davie and I were both enthralled with
Cyril's new book, "Marx at the Millennium" and Cyril's
participation was an attractor for people to join in the
discussion.

Here are some messages from Cyril to give you context:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/txt/cyril25.htm

Much as I enjoyed my debates with Davie, I did not emerge
from them as a fan of Heidegger. During the past 6 months I
have been spending a lot of time studying Hegel's Philosophy
of Right. I certainly do not see the question, and nor did
Hegel, in terms of "reconciliation to one's fate," which is
indeed much closer to Spinoza's view.

Andy

------------------------------------------------------------
Andy Blunden
http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
On 9/06/2018 8:00 AM, David Kellogg wrote:
> Andy has an amazing on-line discussion, going back almost
> exactly two decades, on "Freedom as the Recognition of
> Necessity", which was Engels's exaptation of a Heglian
> formulation (which in turn comes from Spinoza.
>
> https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/txt/davie07.htm
>
> As I understand it, Andy is arguing that freedom as the
> recognition of necessity in Hegel and Spinoza is a kind of
> philosophical resignation to one's fate, but in Marx and
> Vygotsky it is a kind of active realization of one's own
> labor and hence one's own selfhood in the transformation
> of the environment.
>
> The Soviet model of Marxism is a negation of both of
> these.  On the one hand, externalization is active in
> nature, because it really involves turning the tables on
> the environment and forcing it to adapt to human
> necessities. And on the other hand it has very little room
> for "one's own labor" and still less for "one's own
> selfhood": "One" is not a statistically significant, hence
> not a necessary, number.
>
> I think one way to reconcile this view with Andy's view is
> to make a distinction between externalization as the
> recognition of the necessariness of necessities, and
> externalization as the recognition of both one's own
> necessariness and that of others. These seem to me to be
> two distinct processes, belonging to two different stages
> of development (and to the deveopment of tools on the one
> hand and signs on the other). But perhaps "seem" is the
> word I should be stressing.
>
> (In the article linked below, which I did with my
> wife, there is this four year old girl who is trying to
> learn the times tables. She keeps getting stuck: Why can't
> you just put three and five together and get thirty five?
> Her grandmother is old school: your solution counts for
> nothing: Your presumed necessariness is not as important
> as instrumental necessity. And of course at one stage of
> development that is true; but "sustainable development" is
> everywhere and always a contradiction in terms: no
> development can ever sustain itself against itself.)
>
> David Kellogg
> Sangmyung University
>
> New in /Early Years/, co-authored with Fang Li:
>
> When three fives are thirty-five: Vygotsky in a Hallidayan
> idiom ? and maths in the grandmother tongue
>
> Some free e-prints available at:
>
> https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/7I8zYW3qkEqNBA66XAwS/full
>
>

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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 06:48:18 +0000
From: Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
Subject: [Xmca-l]  Resituating Funds of Identity
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
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Dear all,

it's been a quiet period here in xmca lately, partly, ?I am afraid, due to my failure to initiate or follow up the otherwis?e many and insightful conversations that characterise the list during this end of semester. But I am back with an invitation that I hope you will find interesting and, hopefully, worth participating in.

I am attaching an article included in our Issue 2, for discussion here at xmca, but in a slightly new format.

The article is entitled ??Resituating Funds of Identity Within Contemporary Interpretations of Perezhivanie, ?by Adam Poole and Jingyi Huang. Extending conceptualisations of funds of knowledge and funds of identity by means of drawing a connection with the concept perezhivanie, the authors present the idea of *existential* funds of identity. What makes interesting this latter concept is that, by contrast to a most frequent sole focus on positive community resources as constituting those funds of knowledge/activity, Poole and Huang propose exploring how not only positive, but also negative, life-changing experiences may become a potential resource for individual/collective activity.

Usually, we invite the author to discuss with us her/his article. This time, we have also invited a discussant with extensive experience in the field of funds of knowledge. Thus, Adam Poole, as first author of the study, will be with us, sharing his views, motives, and challenges in developing the study. As discussant, we will have Moises Esteban-Guitart, who has kindly agreed to initiate the discussion and engage in what promises to be an exciting and constructive dialogue. They will be joining us soon, and we have also identified a list of scholars interested in similar issues that may be chiming in as we move on. In the meantime, I hope that many of you will get the chance to have a look at this interesting article and find it worth discussing. And of course, as always, everyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion.

Looking forward to an engaging discussion,

Alfredo

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From: "Adam Poole (16517826)" <Adam.Poole@nottingham.edu.cn>
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Resituating Funds of Identity
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Hi,
Thanks to Andy for getting the discussion started on Resituating Funds of Identity.
In response to describing a perezhivanie in terms of phases - I think it may be because I interpreted the working over of a critical episode in terms of a process, and so divided a perezhivanie into three phases. This was also a result of the data - I took your interpretation of a perezhivanie and used it to analyse the data, but in analyzing the data, there appeared to be a distinction between reflection and catharsis, which I lead utilized in interpretation your interpretation of a perezhivanie!
I had in mind the dictionary definition of phase: 'a distinct period or stage in a process of change or forming part of something's development' (from Google) and  'a distinguishable part in a course, development, or cycle:

  *   the early phases of her career' from the Merriam-Webster online dictionary.

  *

I also understood reflection as a pre-requisite for catharsis, in that a critical episode may remain unaddressed or perhaps even repressed (or blocked), but becoming conscious of the episode leads a person to reflect on it which in turn can lead to catharsis. Similarly, reflecting on your life, through narrative, such as funds of identity approaches,  can trigger reflection and unblock a critical episode which can lead to catharsis and integration.
Adam

From: Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org<mailto:andyb@marxists.org>>
Date: 15 June 2018 at 16:52:58 CEST
To: <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu<mailto:xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>>
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Resituating Funds of Identity
Reply-To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu<mailto:xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>>

I really liked this paper. I would like to make a brief response on the following passage which cites my own work:
"Accordingly, Blunden distinguished three main units or phases in his account of perezhivanie,
which, according to our data, occur in the following order: critical episode, reflection, catharsis
and integration. That said, it has to be stressed that this movement may not be linear or occur in the
order that we here present. We define the three phases of a perezhivanieas follows:
? Critical episode: a traumatic experience or a life-changing episode in one?s life that leads to a
blockage in psychological development.
? Reflection: the process of becoming conscious of, reflecting on, and talking about the critical
episode with a significant other, such as a teacher or a parent.
? Catharsis and integration: the processing or working over of a critical episode in order to
assimilate it into the personality."
The summary is a good one. As to the interpretation in dot point, I would make the following observations:

  *   The critical episode may be an unblocking. I often reflect on an important perezhivanie in my life in which a protracted negative experience of which I was hardly conscious, I broke through in one critical episode only seconds in duration which was utterly exhilarating, and as it happened the world changed around me and I became new person, in my own and others' eyes.
  *   Reflection is an integral part of catharsis I think. I don't know how I would express this in terms of "phases." I really see it as a two-phase process, though on reflection just now, I have realised that there was a gradual phase preceding the critical episode which I had not thought about before. I grant that there are internal "meditative" processes as well as changes in social interaction. So the distinction between the internal and external processes is valid, but I don't think they can be separated in 'phases'.

While I agree that a dichotomy between positive and negative experiences is questionable, the distinction is needed. The positive episode is developmental only because of the preceding negative experience preceding it.

Andy
________________________________
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http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
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Andy Blunden's Home Page with links to pages I maintain and mail-to buttons

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On 15/06/2018 4:48 PM, Alfredo Jornet Gil wrote:
Dear all,

it's been a quiet period here in xmca lately, partly, I am afraid, due to my failure to initiate or follow up the otherwise many and insightful conversations that characterise the list during this end of semester. But I am back with an invitation that I hope you will find interesting and, hopefully, worth participating in.

I am attaching an article included in our Issue 2, for discussion here at xmca, but in a slightly new format.

The article is entitled Resituating Funds of Identity Within Contemporary Interpretations of Perezhivanie, by Adam Poole and Jingyi Huang. Extending conceptualisations of funds of knowledge and funds of identity by means of drawing a connection with the concept perezhivanie, the authors present the idea of *existential* funds of identity. What makes interesting this latter concept is that, by contrast to a most frequent sole focus on positive community resources as constituting those funds of knowledge/activity, Poole and Huang propose exploring how not only positive, but also negative, life-changing experiences may become a potential resource for individual/collective activity.

Usually, we invite the author to discuss with us her/his article. This time, we have also invited a discussant with extensive experience in the field of funds of knowledge. Thus, Adam Poole, as first author of the study, will be with us, sharing his views, motives, and challenges in developing the study. As discussant, we will have Moises Esteban-Guitart, who has kindly agreed to initiate the discussion and engage in what promises to be an exciting and constructive dialogue. They will be joining us soon, and we have also identified a list of scholars interested in similar issues that may be chiming in as we move on. In the meantime, I hope that many of you will get the chance to have a look at this interesting article and find it worth discussing. And of course, as always, everyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion.

Looking forward to an engaging discussion,
Alfredo

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   2. Re: cultural constructions of childhood? (Greg Thompson)
   3. Re: cultural constructions of childhood? (Greg Thompson)
   4.  Necessities and Necessariness (David Kellogg)
   5. Re: Necessities and Necessariness (Andy Blunden)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 01:13:52 +0000
From: Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu>
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
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Thanks again! I'd forgotten about the Babies movie, and yes, it's perfect for this course. Now I have lots of reading to do!

If a database of collected works becomes available, I'd be happy to post the syllabus. It's for an undergrad seminar course.

________________________________
From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 5:00:34 PM
To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?

That was a great list of recommendations you got, Katie, I am glad.

Things are going slower than anticipated, but hopefully we will sooner than later have a web platform for collecting this type of resources, such as course syllabus, etc. in one place, so that next time someone looks for the same, they can find it immediately. Right now, is still possible to do searches using keywords in xmca: http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/index.html but we are hoping this will be very much improved. ?

Cheers,

Alfredo

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From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of Martin Packer <mpacker@cantab.net>
Sent: 05 June 2018 22:12
To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?

Some resources here too:

<http://hraf.yale.edu/a-cross-cultural-perspective-on-childhood/>

Martin

On Jun 5, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu<mailto:wester@uga.edu>> wrote:

Yes, very helpful suggestions, and thank you! Potential article suggestions also welcome... :)

Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Teacher Education & Literacy
Gordon State College

________________________________
From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu<mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu<mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>> on behalf of Jonathan Tudge <jrtudge@uncg.edu<mailto:jrtudge@uncg.edu>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 2:24:18 PM
To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?

Hi, Katie,

Here's another one that you might find interesting.

I, personally, think it's brilliant.

https://www.amazon.com/Everyday-Lives-Young-Children-Societies-ebook/dp/B00190VF0Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1528222902&sr=8-1&keywords=everyday+lives+of+young+children%3A+culture%2C+class+and+child+rearing

Cheers,

Jon

~~~~~~~~~~~

Jonathan Tudge

Professor
Office: 155 Stone

Our work on gratitude: http://morethanthanks.wp.uncg.edu/

A new book just published: Tudge, J. & Freitas, L. (Eds.) Developing gratitude in children and adolescents<https://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge/books/dev-gratitude-in-children-and-adolescents-flyer.pdf>, Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press

My web site:http://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge

Mailing address:
248 Stone Building
Department of Human Development and Family Studies
PO Box 26170
The University of North Carolina at Greensboro
Greensboro, NC 27402-6170
USA

phone (336) 223-6181
fax   (336) 334-5076

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Martin Packer <mpacker@cantab.net<mailto:mpacker@cantab.net>> wrote:
Katie, I believe that someone mentioned this?  :)

<https://www.amazon.com/Child-Development-Understanding-Cultural-Perspective/dp/1473993377>

Martin

"I may say that whenever I meet Mrs. Seligman or Dr. Lowie or discuss matters with Radcliffe-Brown or Kroeber, I become at once aware that my partner does not understand anything in the matter, and I end usually with the feeling that this also applies to myself? (Malinowski, 1930)

On Jun 5, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu<mailto:wester@uga.edu>> wrote:

Hello xmca-ers,

Long time reader, rare contributor with a question for a course I'll be teaching soon. Besides Rogoff's Cultural Nature of Human Development, what else would you recommend in that vein? In the course, we will be exploring multiple constructions of childhood across different cultures.

Thanks for your help,
Katie

Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Teacher Education & Literacy
Gordon State College

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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 13:22:31 +0900
From: Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
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Hopefully not too late, David Lancy's The Anthropology of Childhood:
Cherubs, Chattel, and Changelings has a nice sampling of childhoods across
multiple cultures.

Also, some classics from a Western historical perspective:
Joseph Kett's Rites of Passage: Adolescence in America 1790 to Present
Phillip Aries' Centuries of Childhood

And a sociological one that looked interesting:
https://books.google.co.kr/books?hl=en&lr=&id=q_EjCQAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PP1&dq=anthropology+and+the+construction+of+childhood&ots=EiPR30OMTA&sig=MUq_2SbvNv0MKZAx9DggFETLTi0#v=onepage&q=anthropology%20and%20the%20construction%20of%20childhood&f=false

And I came across this more accessible book while searching for the Kett
and thought it might be useful (I haven't read it and so can't vouch for
quality):
https://books.google.co.kr/books?hl=en&lr=&id=A19CDwAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PT7&dq=kett+history+of+childhood&ots=EJq_5BUBr4&sig=g_CvUkXGi32W18dhwKP-IZZecdI#v=onepage&q=kett%20history%20of%20childhood&f=false

Good luck!
-greg

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu>
wrote:

> Thanks again! I'd forgotten about the * Babies* movie, and yes, it's
> perfect for this course. Now I have lots of reading to do!
>
>
> If a database of collected works becomes available, I'd be happy to post
> the syllabus. It's for an undergrad seminar course.
> ------------------------------
> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> on behalf of Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 5:00:34 PM
>
> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>
>
> That was a great list of recommendations you got, Katie, I am glad.
>
>
> Things are going slower than anticipated, but hopefully we will sooner
> than later have a web platform for collecting this type of resources, such
> as course syllabus, etc. in one place, so that next time someone looks for
> the same, they can find it immediately. Right now, is still possible to do
> searches using keywords in xmca: http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/index.html but
> we are hoping this will be very much improved. ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alfredo
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> on behalf of Martin Packer <mpacker@cantab.net>
> *Sent:* 05 June 2018 22:12
> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>
> Some resources here too:
>
> <http://hraf.yale.edu/a-cross-cultural-perspective-on-childhood/>
>
> Martin
>
>
>
> On Jun 5, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu> wrote:
>
> Yes, very helpful suggestions, and thank you! Potential article
> suggestions also welcome... :)
>
> Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Teacher Education & Literacy
> Gordon State College
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> on behalf of Jonathan Tudge <jrtudge@uncg.edu>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 2:24:18 PM
> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>
> Hi, Katie,
>
> Here's another one that you might find interesting.
>
> I, personally, think it's brilliant.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Everyday-Lives-Young-Children-
> Societies-ebook/dp/B00190VF0Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=
> 1528222902&sr=8-1&keywords=everyday+lives+of+young+
> children%3A+culture%2C+class+and+child+rearing
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jon
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Jonathan Tudge
>
> Professor
> Office: 155 Stone
>
> Our work on gratitude: http://morethanthanks.wp.uncg.edu/
>
> A new book just published: Tudge, J. & Freitas, L. (Eds.) Developing
> gratitude in children and adolescents
> <https://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge/books/dev-gratitude-in-children-and-adolescents-flyer.pdf>,
> Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press
>
> My web site:http://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge
>
> Mailing address:
> 248 Stone Building
> Department of Human Development and Family Studies
> PO Box 26170
> The University of North Carolina at Greensboro
> Greensboro, NC 27402-6170
> USA
>
> phone (336) 223-6181
> fax   (336) 334-5076
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Martin Packer <mpacker@cantab.net> wrote:
>
> Katie, I believe that someone mentioned this?  :)
>
> <https://www.amazon.com/Child-Development-Understanding-Cult
> ural-Perspective/dp/1473993377>
>
> Martin
>
> *"I may say that whenever I meet Mrs. Seligman or Dr. Lowie or discuss
> matters with Radcliffe-Brown or Kroeber, I become at once aware that my
> partner does not understand anything in the matter, and I end usually with
> the feeling that this also applies to myself? (Malinowski, 1930)*
>
>
>
> On Jun 5, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu> wrote:
>
> Hello xmca-ers,
>
> Long time reader, rare contributor with a question for a course I'll be
> teaching soon. Besides Rogoff's *Cultural Nature of Human Development*,
> what else would you recommend in that vein? In the course, we will be
> exploring multiple constructions of childhood across different cultures.
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Katie
>
> Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Teacher Education & Literacy
> Gordon State College
>
>
>
>
>

--
Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Department of Anthropology
880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
Brigham Young University
Provo, UT 84602
WEBSITE: greg.a.thompson.byu.edu
http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
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Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 13:07:41 +0900
From: Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
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and a few more on the anthropology front (in case you are still interested):

Bambi Chapin's *Childhood in a Sri Lankan Village* is very good. Gottlieb
and De Loache have a new *A World of Babies* edition out.

?And ?
Elise Berman
? has a book coming out at the end of January that does some good
theorizing of "age", including "childhood". The title of her book is:
*Talking Like Children: Language and the Production of Age in the Marshall
Islands.* Oxford University Press

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:22 PM, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hopefully not too late, David Lancy's The Anthropology of Childhood:
> Cherubs, Chattel, and Changelings has a nice sampling of childhoods across
> multiple cultures.
>
> Also, some classics from a Western historical perspective:
> Joseph Kett's Rites of Passage: Adolescence in America 1790 to Present
> Phillip Aries' Centuries of Childhood
>
> And a sociological one that looked interesting:
> https://books.google.co.kr/books?hl=en&lr=&id=q_
> EjCQAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PP1&dq=anthropology+and+the+
> construction+of+childhood&ots=EiPR30OMTA&sig=MUq_
> 2SbvNv0MKZAx9DggFETLTi0#v=onepage&q=anthropology%20and%
> 20the%20construction%20of%20childhood&f=false
>
> And I came across this more accessible book while searching for the Kett
> and thought it might be useful (I haven't read it and so can't vouch for
> quality):
> https://books.google.co.kr/books?hl=en&lr=&id=
> A19CDwAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PT7&dq=kett+history+of+childhood&ots=
> EJq_5BUBr4&sig=g_CvUkXGi32W18dhwKP-IZZecdI#v=
> onepage&q=kett%20history%20of%20childhood&f=false
>
> Good luck!
> -greg
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks again! I'd forgotten about the * Babies* movie, and yes, it's
>> perfect for this course. Now I have lots of reading to do!
>>
>>
>> If a database of collected works becomes available, I'd be happy to post
>> the syllabus. It's for an undergrad seminar course.
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> on behalf of Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 5:00:34 PM
>>
>> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>>
>>
>> That was a great list of recommendations you got, Katie, I am glad.
>>
>>
>> Things are going slower than anticipated, but hopefully we will sooner
>> than later have a web platform for collecting this type of resources, such
>> as course syllabus, etc. in one place, so that next time someone looks for
>> the same, they can find it immediately. Right now, is still possible to do
>> searches using keywords in xmca: http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/index.html but
>> we are hoping this will be very much improved. ?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Alfredo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> on behalf of Martin Packer <mpacker@cantab.net>
>> *Sent:* 05 June 2018 22:12
>> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>>
>> Some resources here too:
>>
>> <http://hraf.yale.edu/a-cross-cultural-perspective-on-childhood/>
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 5, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, very helpful suggestions, and thank you! Potential article
>> suggestions also welcome... :)
>>
>> Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
>> Assistant Professor
>> Teacher Education & Literacy
>> Gordon State College
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> on behalf of Jonathan Tudge <jrtudge@uncg.edu>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 2:24:18 PM
>> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>>
>> Hi, Katie,
>>
>> Here's another one that you might find interesting.
>>
>> I, personally, think it's brilliant.
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Everyday-Lives-Young-Children-Societi
>> es-ebook/dp/B00190VF0Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1528222902&sr=
>> 8-1&keywords=everyday+lives+of+young+children%3A+culture%
>> 2C+class+and+child+rearing
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Jonathan Tudge
>>
>> Professor
>> Office: 155 Stone
>>
>> Our work on gratitude: http://morethanthanks.wp.uncg.edu/
>>
>> A new book just published: Tudge, J. & Freitas, L. (Eds.) Developing
>> gratitude in children and adolescents
>> <https://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge/books/dev-gratitude-in-children-and-adolescents-flyer.pdf>,
>> Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press
>>
>> My web site:http://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge
>>
>> Mailing address:
>> 248 Stone Building
>> Department of Human Development and Family Studies
>> PO Box 26170
>> The University of North Carolina at Greensboro
>> Greensboro, NC 27402-6170
>> USA
>>
>> phone (336) 223-6181
>> fax   (336) 334-5076
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Martin Packer <mpacker@cantab.net> wrote:
>>
>> Katie, I believe that someone mentioned this?  :)
>>
>> <https://www.amazon.com/Child-Development-Understanding-Cult
>> ural-Perspective/dp/1473993377>
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> *"I may say that whenever I meet Mrs. Seligman or Dr. Lowie or discuss
>> matters with Radcliffe-Brown or Kroeber, I become at once aware that my
>> partner does not understand anything in the matter, and I end usually with
>> the feeling that this also applies to myself? (Malinowski, 1930)*
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 5, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello xmca-ers,
>>
>> Long time reader, rare contributor with a question for a course I'll be
>> teaching soon. Besides Rogoff's *Cultural Nature of Human Development*,
>> what else would you recommend in that vein? In the course, we will be
>> exploring multiple constructions of childhood across different cultures.
>>
>> Thanks for your help,
>> Katie
>>
>> Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
>> Assistant Professor
>> Teacher Education & Literacy
>> Gordon State College
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
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> Assistant Professor
> Department of Anthropology
> 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
> Brigham Young University
> Provo, UT 84602
> WEBSITE: greg.a.thompson.byu.edu
> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
>

--
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Department of Anthropology
880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
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From: David Kellogg <dkellogg60@gmail.com>
Subject: [Xmca-l]  Necessities and Necessariness
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Andy has an amazing on-line discussion, going back almost exactly two
decades, on "Freedom as the Recognition of Necessity", which was Engels's
exaptation of a Heglian formulation (which in turn comes from Spinoza.

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/txt/davie07.htm

As I understand it, Andy is arguing that freedom as the recognition of
necessity in Hegel and Spinoza is a kind of philosophical resignation to
one's fate, but in Marx and Vygotsky it is a kind of active realization of
one's own labor and hence one's own selfhood in the transformation of the
environment.

The Soviet model of Marxism is a negation of both of these.  On the one
hand, externalization is active in nature, because it really involves
turning the tables on the environment and forcing it to adapt to human
necessities. And on the other hand it has very little room for "one's own
labor" and still less for "one's own selfhood": "One" is not a
statistically significant, hence not a necessary, number.

I think one way to reconcile this view with Andy's view is to make a
distinction between externalization as the recognition of the necessariness
of necessities, and externalization as the recognition of both one's own
necessariness and that of others. These seem to me to be two distinct
processes, belonging to two different stages of development (and to the
deveopment of tools on the one hand and signs on the other). But perhaps
"seem" is the word I should be stressing.

(In the article linked below, which I did with my wife, there is this four
year old girl who is trying to learn the times tables. She keeps getting
stuck: Why can't you just put three and five together and get thirty five?
Her grandmother is old school: your solution counts for nothing: Your
presumed necessariness is not as important as instrumental necessity. And
of course at one stage of development that is true; but "sustainable
development" is everywhere and always a contradiction in terms: no
development can ever sustain itself against itself.)

David Kellogg
Sangmyung University

New in *Early Years*, co-authored with Fang Li:

When three fives are thirty-five: Vygotsky in a Hallidayan idiom ? and
maths in the grandmother tongue

Some free e-prints available at:

https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/7I8zYW3qkEqNBA66XAwS/full
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Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 12:00:59 +1000
From: Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org>
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Necessities and Necessariness
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David,

The text you have discovered is indeed 20 years old. At that
time I knew nothing about Hegel, and nor could I find anyone
to learn from, and there were very few philosophical texts
available on the nascent internet. So I started copy-typing
Hegel texts on to my web site and encouraging people to
discuss them. This was my own do-it-yourself university. And
I have preserved this old discussion in case they are of use
to others.

Now, the text you discovered is written *all* by my old
friend Davie MacLean, who was in those days a big fan of
Heidegger but an avid student of all philosophy. The first
part is addressed to me and the second part copied from a
letter from Davie to Cyril Smith, my star participant in
that discussion. Davie and I were both enthralled with
Cyril's new book, "Marx at the Millennium" and Cyril's
participation was an attractor for people to join in the
discussion.

Here are some messages from Cyril to give you context:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/txt/cyril25.htm

Much as I enjoyed my debates with Davie, I did not emerge
from them as a fan of Heidegger. During the past 6 months I
have been spending a lot of time studying Hegel's Philosophy
of Right. I certainly do not see the question, and nor did
Hegel, in terms of "reconciliation to one's fate," which is
indeed much closer to Spinoza's view.

Andy

------------------------------------------------------------
Andy Blunden
http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
On 9/06/2018 8:00 AM, David Kellogg wrote:
> Andy has an amazing on-line discussion, going back almost
> exactly two decades, on "Freedom as the Recognition of
> Necessity", which was Engels's exaptation of a Heglian
> formulation (which in turn comes from Spinoza.
>
> https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/txt/davie07.htm
>
> As I understand it, Andy is arguing that freedom as the
> recognition of necessity in Hegel and Spinoza is a kind of
> philosophical resignation to one's fate, but in Marx and
> Vygotsky it is a kind of active realization of one's own
> labor and hence one's own selfhood in the transformation
> of the environment.
>
> The Soviet model of Marxism is a negation of both of
> these.  On the one hand, externalization is active in
> nature, because it really involves turning the tables on
> the environment and forcing it to adapt to human
> necessities. And on the other hand it has very little room
> for "one's own labor" and still less for "one's own
> selfhood": "One" is not a statistically significant, hence
> not a necessary, number.
>
> I think one way to reconcile this view with Andy's view is
> to make a distinction between externalization as the
> recognition of the necessariness of necessities, and
> externalization as the recognition of both one's own
> necessariness and that of others. These seem to me to be
> two distinct processes, belonging to two different stages
> of development (and to the deveopment of tools on the one
> hand and signs on the other). But perhaps "seem" is the
> word I should be stressing.
>
> (In the article linked below, which I did with my
> wife, there is this four year old girl who is trying to
> learn the times tables. She keeps getting stuck: Why can't
> you just put three and five together and get thirty five?
> Her grandmother is old school: your solution counts for
> nothing: Your presumed necessariness is not as important
> as instrumental necessity. And of course at one stage of
> development that is true; but "sustainable development" is
> everywhere and always a contradiction in terms: no
> development can ever sustain itself against itself.)
>
> David Kellogg
> Sangmyung University
>
> New in /Early Years/, co-authored with Fang Li:
>
> When three fives are thirty-five: Vygotsky in a Hallidayan
> idiom ? and maths in the grandmother tongue
>
> Some free e-prints available at:
>
> https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/7I8zYW3qkEqNBA66XAwS/full
>
>

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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 06:48:18 +0000
From: Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
Subject: [Xmca-l]  Resituating Funds of Identity
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
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Dear all,

it's been a quiet period here in xmca lately, partly, ?I am afraid, due to my failure to initiate or follow up the otherwis?e many and insightful conversations that characterise the list during this end of semester. But I am back with an invitation that I hope you will find interesting and, hopefully, worth participating in.

I am attaching an article included in our Issue 2, for discussion here at xmca, but in a slightly new format.

The article is entitled ??Resituating Funds of Identity Within Contemporary Interpretations of Perezhivanie, ?by Adam Poole and Jingyi Huang. Extending conceptualisations of funds of knowledge and funds of identity by means of drawing a connection with the concept perezhivanie, the authors present the idea of *existential* funds of identity. What makes interesting this latter concept is that, by contrast to a most frequent sole focus on positive community resources as constituting those funds of knowledge/activity, Poole and Huang propose exploring how not only positive, but also negative, life-changing experiences may become a potential resource for individual/collective activity.

Usually, we invite the author to discuss with us her/his article. This time, we have also invited a discussant with extensive experience in the field of funds of knowledge. Thus, Adam Poole, as first author of the study, will be with us, sharing his views, motives, and challenges in developing the study. As discussant, we will have Moises Esteban-Guitart, who has kindly agreed to initiate the discussion and engage in what promises to be an exciting and constructive dialogue. They will be joining us soon, and we have also identified a list of scholars interested in similar issues that may be chiming in as we move on. In the meantime, I hope that many of you will get the chance to have a look at this interesting article and find it worth discussing. And of course, as always, everyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion.

Looking forward to an engaging discussion,

Alfredo

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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 01:46:27 +1000
From: Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org>
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Resituating Funds of Identity
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Think of the origin of the idea of "catharsis." Originally
it referred to the experience of an audience watching a
Greek drama - their own emotions are played out in front of
them. Later is referred to a medical method of "purging" an
illness through vomiting, and it was adapted from there to
refer to the talking cure, in which the patient externalised
their problem with the help of the therapist. From
psychotherapy it entered popular culture as an image of
someone experiencing a traumatic personal transformation, I
think.

You may be quite right in terms of phases, Adam, but I think
"reflection" and "catharsis" are closely tied together. I
talked a lot about catharsis being to do with "processing"
an experience, overcoming it, integrating it into one's
personality, which does indeed sound like something very
different from "catharsis" as I've just described it.

It's up to you guys who are doing the qualitative research
to figure it out though.

Andy

------------------------------------------------------------
Andy Blunden
http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
On 18/06/2018 1:33 AM, Adam Poole (16517826) wrote:
> Hi,
> Thanks to Andy for getting the discussion started
> on Resituating Funds of Identity.
> In response to describing a perezhivanie in terms of
> phases - I think it may be because I interpreted
> the working over of a critical episode in terms of a
> process, and so divided a perezhivanie into three phases.
> This was also a result of the data - I took your
> interpretation of a perezhivanie and used it to analyse
> the data, but in analyzing the data, there appeared to be
> a distinction between reflection and catharsis, which I
> lead utilized in interpretation your interpretation of a
> perezhivanie!
> I had in mind the dictionary definition of phase:'a
> distinct period or stage in a process of change or forming
> part of something's development' (from Google) and  'a
> distinguishable part in a course, development, or cycle:
>
>   * the early phases of her career' from the
>     Merriam-Webster online dictionary.
>
>  *
>
>
> I also understood reflection as a pre-requisite for
> catharsis, in that a critical episode may remain
> unaddressed or perhaps even repressed (or blocked), but
> becoming conscious of the episode leads a person to
> reflect on it which in turn can lead to catharsis.
> Similarly, reflecting on your life, through narrative,
> such as funds of identity approaches,  can trigger
> reflection and unblock a critical episode which can lead
> to catharsis and integration.
> Adam
> *
> *
> *From:* Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org
> <mailto:andyb@marxists.org>>
> *Date:* 15 June 2018 at 16:52:58 CEST
> *To:* <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu
> <mailto:xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>>
> *Subject:* *[Xmca-l] Re: Resituating Funds of Identity*
> *Reply-To:* "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>>
>
> I really liked this paper. I would like to make a brief
> response on the following passage which cites my own work:
> "Accordingly, Blunden distinguished three main units or
> phases in his account of /perezhivanie/,
> which, according to our data, occur in the following
> order: critical episode, reflection, catharsis
> and integration. That said, it has to be stressed that
> this movement may not be linear or occur in the
> order that we here present. We define the three phases of
> a /perezhivanie/as follows:
> ? Critical episode: a traumatic experience or a
> life-changing episode in one?s life that leads to a
> blockage in psychological development.
> ? Reflection: the process of becoming conscious of,
> reflecting on, and talking about the critical
> episode with a significant other, such as a teacher or a
> parent.
> ? Catharsis and integration: the processing or working
> over of a critical episode in order to
> assimilate it into the personality."
> The summary is a good one. As to the interpretation in dot
> point, I would make the following observations:
>
>   * The critical episode may be an /unblocking/. I often
>     reflect on an important /perezhivanie /in my life in
>     which a protracted negative experience of which I was
>     hardly conscious, I broke through in one critical
>     episode only seconds in duration which was utterly
>     exhilarating, and as it happened the world changed
>     around me and I became new person, in my own and
>     others' eyes.
>   * Reflection is an integral part of catharsis I think. I
>     don't know how I would express this in terms of
>     "phases." I really see it as a two-phase process,
>     though on reflection just now, I have realised that
>     there was a gradual phase preceding the critical
>     episode which I had not thought about before. I grant
>     that there are internal "meditative" processes as well
>     as changes in social interaction. So the distinction
>     between the internal and external processes is valid,
>     but I don't think they can be separated in 'phases'.
>
> While I agree that a dichotomy between positive and
> negative experiences is questionable, the distinction is
> needed. The positive episode is developmental only because
> of the preceding negative experience preceding it.
>
> Andy
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Andy Blunden
> http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
> Andy Blunden's Home Page
> <http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm>
> www.ethicalpolitics.org<http://www.ethicalpolitics.org>
> Andy Blunden's Home Page with links to pages I maintain
> and mail-to buttons
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> On 15/06/2018 4:48 PM, Alfredo Jornet Gil wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> it's been a quiet period here in xmca lately, partly, I am
> afraid, due to my failure to initiate or follow up the
> otherwise many and insightful conversations that
> characterise the list during this end of semester. But I
> am back with an invitation that I hope you will find
> interesting and, hopefully, worth participating in.
>
> I am attaching an article included in our Issue 2, for
> discussion here at xmca, but in a slightly new format.
>
> The article is entitled /Resituating Funds of Identity
> Within Contemporary Interpretations of Perezhivanie, /by
> Adam Poole and Jingyi
> Huang. Extending conceptualisations of funds of knowledge
> and funds of identity by means of drawing a connection
> with the concept perezhivanie, the authors present the
> idea of *existential* funds of identity. What makes
> interesting this latter concept is that, by contrast to a
> most frequent sole focus on positive community resources
> as constituting those funds of knowledge/activity, Poole
> and Huang propose exploring how not only positive, but
> also negative, life-changing experiences may become a
> potential resource for individual/collective activity.
>
> Usually, we invite the author to discuss with us her/his
> article. This time, we have also invited a discussant with
> extensive experience in the field of funds of knowledge.
> Thus, Adam Poole, as first author of the study, will be
> with us, sharing his views, motives, and challenges in
> developing the study. As discussant, we will have Moises
> Esteban-Guitart, who has kindly agreed to initiate the
> discussion and engage in what promises to be an exciting
> and constructive dialogue. They will be joining us soon,
> and we have also identified a list of scholars interested
> in similar issues that may be chiming in as we move on. In
> the meantime, I hope that many of you will get the chance
> to have a look at this interesting article and find it
> worth discussing. And of course, as always, everyone is
> welcome to contribute to the discussion.
>
> Looking forward to an engaging discussion,
> Alfredo
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
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>    2. Re: cultural constructions of childhood? (Greg Thompson)
>    3. Re: cultural constructions of childhood? (Greg Thompson)
>    4.  Necessities and Necessariness (David Kellogg)
>    5. Re: Necessities and Necessariness (Andy Blunden)
>    6.  Resituating Funds of Identity (Alfredo Jornet Gil)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 01:13:52 +0000
> From: Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu>
> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
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> Thanks again! I'd forgotten about the Babies movie, and
> yes, it's perfect for this course. Now I have lots of
> reading to do!
>
>
> If a database of collected works becomes available, I'd be
> happy to post the syllabus. It's for an undergrad seminar
> course.
>
> ________________________________
> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of Alfredo
> Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 5:00:34 PM
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>
>
> That was a great list of recommendations you got, Katie, I
> am glad.
>
>
> Things are going slower than anticipated, but hopefully we
> will sooner than later have a web platform for collecting
> this type of resources, such as course syllabus, etc. in
> one place, so that next time someone looks for the same,
> they can find it immediately. Right now, is still possible
> to do searches using keywords in xmca:
> http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/index.html
> <http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/index.html> but we are
> hoping this will be very much improved. ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alfredo
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of Martin
> Packer <mpacker@cantab.net>
> Sent: 05 June 2018 22:12
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>
> Some resources here too:
>
> <http://hraf.yale.edu/a-cross-cultural-perspective-on-childhood/>
>
> Martin
>
>
>
> On Jun 5, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Katherine Wester Neal
> <wester@uga.edu<mailto:wester@uga.edu>> wrote:
>
> Yes, very helpful suggestions, and thank you! Potential
> article suggestions also welcome... :)
>
>
> Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Teacher Education & Literacy
> Gordon State College
>
>
> ________________________________
> From:
> xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu<mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu<mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>>
> on behalf of Jonathan Tudge
> <jrtudge@uncg.edu<mailto:jrtudge@uncg.edu>>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 2:24:18 PM
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>
> Hi, Katie,
>
> Here's another one that you might find interesting.
>
> I, personally, think it's brilliant.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Everyday-Lives-Young-Children-Societies-ebook/dp/B00190VF0Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1528222902&sr=8-1&keywords=everyday+lives+of+young+children%3A+culture%2C+class+and+child+rearing
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jon
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Jonathan Tudge
>
> Professor
> Office: 155 Stone
>
> Our work on gratitude: http://morethanthanks.wp.uncg.edu/
> <http://morethanthanks.wp.uncg.edu/>
>
> A new book just published: Tudge, J. & Freitas, L. (Eds.)
> Developing gratitude in children and
> adolescents<https://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge/books/dev-gratitude-in-children-and-adolescents-flyer.pdf>,
> Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press
>
> My web site:http://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge
>
> Mailing address:
> 248 Stone Building
> Department of Human Development and Family Studies
> PO Box 26170
> The University of North Carolina at Greensboro
> Greensboro, NC 27402-6170
> USA
>
> phone (336) 223-6181
> fax   (336) 334-5076
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Martin Packer
> <mpacker@cantab.net<mailto:mpacker@cantab.net>> wrote:
> Katie, I believe that someone mentioned this?  :)
>
> <https://www.amazon.com/Child-Development-Understanding-Cultural-Perspective/dp/1473993377>
>
> Martin
>
> "I may say that whenever I meet Mrs. Seligman or Dr. Lowie
> or discuss matters with Radcliffe-Brown or Kroeber, I
> become at once aware that my partner does not understand
> anything in the matter, and I end usually with the feeling
> that this also applies to myself? (Malinowski, 1930)
>
>
>
> On Jun 5, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Katherine Wester Neal
> <wester@uga.edu<mailto:wester@uga.edu>> wrote:
>
>
> Hello xmca-ers,
>
> Long time reader, rare contributor with a question for a
> course I'll be teaching soon. Besides Rogoff's Cultural
> Nature of Human Development, what else would you recommend
> in that vein? In the course, we will be exploring multiple
> constructions of childhood across different cultures.
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Katie
>
> Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Teacher Education & Literacy
> Gordon State College
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 13:22:31 +0900
> From: Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
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>
> Hopefully not too late, David Lancy's The Anthropology of
> Childhood:
> Cherubs, Chattel, and Changelings has a nice sampling of
> childhoods across
> multiple cultures.
>
> Also, some classics from a Western historical perspective:
> Joseph Kett's Rites of Passage: Adolescence in America
> 1790 to Present
> Phillip Aries' Centuries of Childhood
>
> And a sociological one that looked interesting:
> https://books.google.co.kr/books?hl=en&lr=&id=q_EjCQAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PP1&dq=anthropology+and+the+construction+of+childhood&ots=EiPR30OMTA&sig=MUq_2SbvNv0MKZAx9DggFETLTi0#v=onepage&q=anthropology%20and%20the%20construction%20of%20childhood&f=false
>
> And I came across this more accessible book while
> searching for the Kett
> and thought it might be useful (I haven't read it and so
> can't vouch for
> quality):
> https://books.google.co.kr/books?hl=en&lr=&id=A19CDwAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PT7&dq=kett+history+of+childhood&ots=EJq_5BUBr4&sig=g_CvUkXGi32W18dhwKP-IZZecdI#v=onepage&q=kett%20history%20of%20childhood&f=false
>
> Good luck!
> -greg
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Katherine Wester Neal
> <wester@uga.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks again! I'd forgotten about the * Babies* movie,
> and yes, it's
> > perfect for this course. Now I have lots of reading to do!
> >
> >
> > If a database of collected works becomes available, I'd
> be happy to post
> > the syllabus. It's for an undergrad seminar course.
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> > on behalf of Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 5:00:34 PM
> >
> > *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> > *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
> >
> >
> > That was a great list of recommendations you got, Katie,
> I am glad.
> >
> >
> > Things are going slower than anticipated, but hopefully
> we will sooner
> > than later have a web platform for collecting this type
> of resources, such
> > as course syllabus, etc. in one place, so that next time
> someone looks for
> > the same, they can find it immediately. Right now, is
> still possible to do
> > searches using keywords in xmca:
> http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/index.html
> <http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/index.html> but
> > we are hoping this will be very much improved. ?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Alfredo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> > on behalf of Martin Packer <mpacker@cantab.net>
> > *Sent:* 05 June 2018 22:12
> > *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> > *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
> >
> > Some resources here too:
> >
> >
> <http://hraf.yale.edu/a-cross-cultural-perspective-on-childhood/>
> >
> > Martin
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jun 5, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Katherine Wester Neal
> <wester@uga.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, very helpful suggestions, and thank you! Potential
> article
> > suggestions also welcome... :)
> >
> > Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
> > Assistant Professor
> > Teacher Education & Literacy
> > Gordon State College
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> > on behalf of Jonathan Tudge <jrtudge@uncg.edu>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 2:24:18 PM
> > *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> > *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
> >
> > Hi, Katie,
> >
> > Here's another one that you might find interesting.
> >
> > I, personally, think it's brilliant.
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/Everyday-Lives-Young-Children-
> > Societies-ebook/dp/B00190VF0Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=
> > 1528222902&sr=8-1&keywords=everyday+lives+of+young+
> > children%3A+culture%2C+class+and+child+rearing
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jon
> >
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > Jonathan Tudge
> >
> > Professor
> > Office: 155 Stone
> >
> > Our work on gratitude:
> http://morethanthanks.wp.uncg.edu/
> <http://morethanthanks.wp.uncg.edu/>
> >
> > A new book just published: Tudge, J. & Freitas, L.
> (Eds.) Developing
> > gratitude in children and adolescents
> >
> <https://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge/books/dev-gratitude-in-children-and-adolescents-flyer.pdf>,
> > Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press
> >
> > My web site:http://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge
> >
> > Mailing address:
> > 248 Stone Building
> > Department of Human Development and Family Studies
> > PO Box 26170
> > The University of North Carolina at Greensboro
> > Greensboro, NC 27402-6170
> > USA
> >
> > phone (336) 223-6181
> > fax   (336) 334-5076
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Martin Packer
> <mpacker@cantab.net> wrote:
> >
> > Katie, I believe that someone mentioned this?  :)
> >
> > <https://www.amazon.com/Child-Development-Understanding-Cult
> > ural-Perspective/dp/1473993377>
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > *"I may say that whenever I meet Mrs. Seligman or Dr.
> Lowie or discuss
> > matters with Radcliffe-Brown or Kroeber, I become at
> once aware that my
> > partner does not understand anything in the matter, and
> I end usually with
> > the feeling that this also applies to myself?
> (Malinowski, 1930)*
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jun 5, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Katherine Wester Neal
> <wester@uga.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Hello xmca-ers,
> >
> > Long time reader, rare contributor with a question for a
> course I'll be
> > teaching soon. Besides Rogoff's *Cultural Nature of
> Human Development*,
> > what else would you recommend in that vein? In the
> course, we will be
> > exploring multiple constructions of childhood across
> different cultures.
> >
> > Thanks for your help,
> > Katie
> >
> > Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
> > Assistant Professor
> > Teacher Education & Literacy
> > Gordon State College
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Department of Anthropology
> 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
> Brigham Young University
> Provo, UT 84602
> WEBSITE: greg.a.thompson.byu.edu
> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
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> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 13:07:41 +0900
> From: Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
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>
> and a few more on the anthropology front (in case you are
> still interested):
>
> Bambi Chapin's *Childhood in a Sri Lankan Village* is very
> good. Gottlieb
> and De Loache have a new *A World of Babies* edition out.
>
> ?And ?
> Elise Berman
> ? has a book coming out at the end of January that does
> some good
> theorizing of "age", including "childhood". The title of
> her book is:
> *Talking Like Children: Language and the Production of Age
> in the Marshall
> Islands.* Oxford University Press
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:22 PM, Greg Thompson
> <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hopefully not too late, David Lancy's The Anthropology
> of Childhood:
> > Cherubs, Chattel, and Changelings has a nice sampling of
> childhoods across
> > multiple cultures.
> >
> > Also, some classics from a Western historical perspective:
> > Joseph Kett's Rites of Passage: Adolescence in America
> 1790 to Present
> > Phillip Aries' Centuries of Childhood
> >
> > And a sociological one that looked interesting:
> > https://books.google.co.kr/books?hl=en&lr=&id=q_
> > EjCQAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PP1&dq=anthropology+and+the+
> > construction+of+childhood&ots=EiPR30OMTA&sig=MUq_
> > 2SbvNv0MKZAx9DggFETLTi0#v=onepage&q=anthropology%20and%
> > 20the%20construction%20of%20childhood&f=false
> >
> > And I came across this more accessible book while
> searching for the Kett
> > and thought it might be useful (I haven't read it and so
> can't vouch for
> > quality):
> > https://books.google.co.kr/books?hl=en&lr=&id=
> > A19CDwAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PT7&dq=kett+history+of+childhood&ots=
> > EJq_5BUBr4&sig=g_CvUkXGi32W18dhwKP-IZZecdI#v=
> > onepage&q=kett%20history%20of%20childhood&f=false
> >
> > Good luck!
> > -greg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Katherine Wester Neal
> <wester@uga.edu>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks again! I'd forgotten about the * Babies* movie,
> and yes, it's
> >> perfect for this course. Now I have lots of reading to do!
> >>
> >>
> >> If a database of collected works becomes available, I'd
> be happy to post
> >> the syllabus. It's for an undergrad seminar course.
> >> ------------------------------
> >> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> >> on behalf of Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 5:00:34 PM
> >>
> >> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> >> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of
> childhood?
> >>
> >>
> >> That was a great list of recommendations you got,
> Katie, I am glad.
> >>
> >>
> >> Things are going slower than anticipated, but hopefully
> we will sooner
> >> than later have a web platform for collecting this type
> of resources, such
> >> as course syllabus, etc. in one place, so that next
> time someone looks for
> >> the same, they can find it immediately. Right now, is
> still possible to do
> >> searches using keywords in xmca:
> http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/index.html
> <http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/index.html> but
> >> we are hoping this will be very much improved. ?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Alfredo
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> >> on behalf of Martin Packer <mpacker@cantab.net>
> >> *Sent:* 05 June 2018 22:12
> >> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> >> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of
> childhood?
> >>
> >> Some resources here too:
> >>
> >>
> <http://hraf.yale.edu/a-cross-cultural-perspective-on-childhood/>
> >>
> >> Martin
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jun 5, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Katherine Wester Neal
> <wester@uga.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, very helpful suggestions, and thank you! Potential
> article
> >> suggestions also welcome... :)
> >>
> >> Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
> >> Assistant Professor
> >> Teacher Education & Literacy
> >> Gordon State College
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> >> on behalf of Jonathan Tudge <jrtudge@uncg.edu>
> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 2:24:18 PM
> >> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> >> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of
> childhood?
> >>
> >> Hi, Katie,
> >>
> >> Here's another one that you might find interesting.
> >>
> >> I, personally, think it's brilliant.
> >>
> >>
> https://www.amazon.com/Everyday-Lives-Young-Children-Societi
> >>
> es-ebook/dp/B00190VF0Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1528222902&sr=
> >> 8-1&keywords=everyday+lives+of+young+children%3A+culture%
> >> 2C+class+and+child+rearing
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Jon
> >>
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >> Jonathan Tudge
> >>
> >> Professor
> >> Office: 155 Stone
> >>
> >> Our work on gratitude:
> http://morethanthanks.wp.uncg.edu/
> <http://morethanthanks.wp.uncg.edu/>
> >>
> >> A new book just published: Tudge, J. & Freitas, L.
> (Eds.) Developing
> >> gratitude in children and adolescents
> >>
> <https://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge/books/dev-gratitude-in-children-and-adolescents-flyer.pdf>,
> >> Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press
> >>
> >> My web site:http://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge
> >>
> >> Mailing address:
> >> 248 Stone Building
> >> Department of Human Development and Family Studies
> >> PO Box 26170
> >> The University of North Carolina at Greensboro
> >> Greensboro, NC 27402-6170
> >> USA
> >>
> >> phone (336) 223-6181
> >> fax   (336) 334-5076
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Martin Packer
> <mpacker@cantab.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Katie, I believe that someone mentioned this?  :)
> >>
> >>
> <https://www.amazon.com/Child-Development-Understanding-Cult
> >> ural-Perspective/dp/1473993377>
> >>
> >> Martin
> >>
> >> *"I may say that whenever I meet Mrs. Seligman or Dr.
> Lowie or discuss
> >> matters with Radcliffe-Brown or Kroeber, I become at
> once aware that my
> >> partner does not understand anything in the matter, and
> I end usually with
> >> the feeling that this also applies to myself?
> (Malinowski, 1930)*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jun 5, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Katherine Wester Neal
> <wester@uga.edu>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello xmca-ers,
> >>
> >> Long time reader, rare contributor with a question for
> a course I'll be
> >> teaching soon. Besides Rogoff's *Cultural Nature of
> Human Development*,
> >> what else would you recommend in that vein? In the
> course, we will be
> >> exploring multiple constructions of childhood across
> different cultures.
> >>
> >> Thanks for your help,
> >> Katie
> >>
> >> Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
> >> Assistant Professor
> >> Teacher Education & Literacy
> >> Gordon State College
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
> > Assistant Professor
> > Department of Anthropology
> > 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
> > Brigham Young University
> > Provo, UT 84602
> > WEBSITE: greg.a.thompson.byu.edu
> > http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
> <http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Department of Anthropology
> 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
> Brigham Young University
> Provo, UT 84602
> WEBSITE: greg.a.thompson.byu.edu
> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
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> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 07:00:06 +0900
> From: David Kellogg <dkellogg60@gmail.com>
> Subject: [Xmca-l]  Necessities and Necessariness
> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
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> Andy has an amazing on-line discussion, going back almost
> exactly two
> decades, on "Freedom as the Recognition of Necessity",
> which was Engels's
> exaptation of a Heglian formulation (which in turn comes
> from Spinoza.
>
> https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/txt/davie07.htm
>
> As I understand it, Andy is arguing that freedom as the
> recognition of
> necessity in Hegel and Spinoza is a kind of philosophical
> resignation to
> one's fate, but in Marx and Vygotsky it is a kind of
> active realization of
> one's own labor and hence one's own selfhood in the
> transformation of the
> environment.
>
> The Soviet model of Marxism is a negation of both of
> these.  On the one
> hand, externalization is active in nature, because it
> really involves
> turning the tables on the environment and forcing it to
> adapt to human
> necessities. And on the other hand it has very little room
> for "one's own
> labor" and still less for "one's own selfhood": "One" is not a
> statistically significant, hence not a necessary, number.
>
> I think one way to reconcile this view with Andy's view is
> to make a
> distinction between externalization as the recognition of
> the necessariness
> of necessities, and externalization as the recognition of
> both one's own
> necessariness and that of others. These seem to me to be
> two distinct
> processes, belonging to two different stages of
> development (and to the
> deveopment of tools on the one hand and signs on the
> other). But perhaps
> "seem" is the word I should be stressing.
>
> (In the article linked below, which I did with my wife,
> there is this four
> year old girl who is trying to learn the times tables. She
> keeps getting
> stuck: Why can't you just put three and five together and
> get thirty five?
> Her grandmother is old school: your solution counts for
> nothing: Your
> presumed necessariness is not as important as instrumental
> necessity. And
> of course at one stage of development that is true; but
> "sustainable
> development" is everywhere and always a contradiction in
> terms: no
> development can ever sustain itself against itself.)
>
> David Kellogg
> Sangmyung University
>
> New in *Early Years*, co-authored with Fang Li:
>
> When three fives are thirty-five: Vygotsky in a Hallidayan
> idiom ? and
> maths in the grandmother tongue
>
> Some free e-prints available at:
>
> https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/7I8zYW3qkEqNBA66XAwS/full
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> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 12:00:59 +1000
> From: Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org>
> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Necessities and Necessariness
> To: xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu
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> David,
>
> The text you have discovered is indeed 20 years old. At that
> time I knew nothing about Hegel, and nor could I find anyone
> to learn from, and there were very few philosophical texts
> available on the nascent internet. So I started copy-typing
> Hegel texts on to my web site and encouraging people to
> discuss them. This was my own do-it-yourself university. And
> I have preserved this old discussion in case they are of use
> to others.
>
> Now, the text you discovered is written *all* by my old
> friend Davie MacLean, who was in those days a big fan of
> Heidegger but an avid student of all philosophy. The first
> part is addressed to me and the second part copied from a
> letter from Davie to Cyril Smith, my star participant in
> that discussion. Davie and I were both enthralled with
> Cyril's new book, "Marx at the Millennium" and Cyril's
> participation was an attractor for people to join in the
> discussion.
>
> Here are some messages from Cyril to give you context:
> https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/txt/cyril25.htm
>
> Much as I enjoyed my debates with Davie, I did not emerge
> from them as a fan of Heidegger. During the past 6 months I
> have been spending a lot of time studying Hegel's Philosophy
> of Right. I certainly do not see the question, and nor did
> Hegel, in terms of "reconciliation to one's fate," which is
> indeed much closer to Spinoza's view.
>
> Andy
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Andy Blunden
> http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
> On 9/06/2018 8:00 AM, David Kellogg wrote:
> > Andy has an amazing on-line discussion, going back almost
> > exactly two decades, on "Freedom as the Recognition of
> > Necessity", which was Engels's exaptation of a Heglian
> > formulation (which in turn comes from Spinoza.
> >
> >
> https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/txt/davie07.htm
> >
> > As I understand it, Andy is arguing that freedom as the
> > recognition of necessity in Hegel and Spinoza is a kind of
> > philosophical resignation to one's fate, but in Marx and
> > Vygotsky it is a kind of active realization of one's own
> > labor and hence one's own selfhood in the transformation
> > of the environment.
> >
> > The Soviet model of Marxism is a negation of both of
> > these.  On the one hand, externalization is active in
> > nature, because it really involves turning the tables on
> > the environment and forcing it to adapt to human
> > necessities. And on the other hand it has very little room
> > for "one's own labor" and still less for "one's own
> > selfhood": "One" is not a statistically significant, hence
> > not a necessary, number.
> >
> > I think one way to reconcile this view with Andy's view is
> > to make a distinction between externalization as the
> > recognition of the necessariness of necessities, and
> > externalization as the recognition of both one's own
> > necessariness and that of others. These seem to me to be
> > two distinct processes, belonging to two different stages
> > of development (and to the deveopment of tools on the one
> > hand and signs on the other). But perhaps "seem" is the
> > word I should be stressing.
> >
> > (In the article linked below, which I did with my
> > wife, there is this four year old girl who is trying to
> > learn the times tables. She keeps getting stuck: Why can't
> > you just put three and five together and get thirty five?
> > Her grandmother is old school: your solution counts for
> > nothing: Your presumed necessariness is not as important
> > as instrumental necessity. And of course at one stage of
> > development that is true; but "sustainable development" is
> > everywhere and always a contradiction in terms: no
> > development can ever sustain itself against itself.)
> >
> > David Kellogg
> > Sangmyung University
> >
> > New in /Early Years/, co-authored with Fang Li:
> >
> > When three fives are thirty-five: Vygotsky in a Hallidayan
> > idiom ? and maths in the grandmother tongue
> >
> > Some free e-prints available at:
> >
> > https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/7I8zYW3qkEqNBA66XAwS/full
> >
> >
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> From: Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
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> Dear all,
>
>
> it's been a quiet period here in xmca lately, partly, ?I
> am afraid, due to my failure to initiate or follow up the
> otherwis?e many and insightful conversations that
> characterise the list during this end of semester. But I
> am back with an invitation that I hope you will find
> interesting and, hopefully, worth participating in.
>
>
> I am attaching an article included in our Issue 2, for
> discussion here at xmca, but in a slightly new format.
>
>
> The article is entitled ??Resituating Funds of Identity
> Within Contemporary Interpretations of Perezhivanie, ?by
> Adam Poole and Jingyi Huang. Extending conceptualisations
> of funds of knowledge and funds of identity by means of
> drawing a connection with the concept perezhivanie, the
> authors present the idea of *existential* funds of
> identity. What makes interesting this latter concept is
> that, by contrast to a most frequent sole focus on
> positive community resources as constituting those funds
> of knowledge/activity, Poole and Huang propose exploring
> how not only positive, but also negative, life-changing
> experiences may become a potential resource for
> individual/collective activity.
>
>
> Usually, we invite the author to discuss with us her/his
> article. This time, we have also invited a discussant with
> extensive experience in the field of funds of knowledge.
> Thus, Adam Poole, as first author of the study, will be
> with us, sharing his views, motives, and challenges in
> developing the study. As discussant, we will have Moises
> Esteban-Guitart, who has kindly agreed to initiate the
> discussion and engage in what promises to be an exciting
> and constructive dialogue. They will be joining us soon,
> and we have also identified a list of scholars interested
> in similar issues that may be chiming in as we move on. In
> the meantime, I hope that many of you will get the chance
> to have a look at this interesting article and find it
> worth discussing. And of course, as always, everyone is
> welcome to contribute to the discussion.
>
>
> Looking forward to an engaging discussion,
>
> Alfredo
>
>
>
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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 19:21:16 +0200 (CEST)
From: "MOISES ESTEBAN-GUITART" <moises.esteban@udg.edu>
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Resituating Funds of Identity
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
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First of all a ?triple thank you?. Thanks Alfredo for reopening this
collective space to ?inter-thinking?. Thank you Adam for your paper, in
particular, and your great contributions on the funds of knowledge and
funds of identity approach, in general. Thank you Andy for you insights
and for helping us to understand better the concept of ?perezhivanie?.
Indeed, as we know, it is a vague one, produced in the ending of
Vygotsky?s life and such as other vygotskian concepts we really need
develop it further.

The Poole?s paper invited me to enrich the notion of funds of identity.
Grounded in the funds of knowledge approach, the funds of identity concept
try to intentionally reinforce the positive backgrounds and experiences of
learners to overcome the deficit thinking in education (to sum up: by
reducing marginalized school population to a sum of cultural, social,
linguistic deficits).  However, our experience is not only light. And in
the dark funds of knowledge suggested by Zipin, existential funds of
identity invite us to capture a more holistic view on people?s experience.
In my opinion, deep learning (meaningful, significant learning) is based
on the recognition and transformation of learners? identities. This
assertion, that would be one of my working hypothesis, assumes three
theoretical principles: (1) that human identities are culturally-situated
and distributed (geographical funds of identity, cultural funds of
identity, institutional funds of identity and so on); (2) that there is a
constitutive link between learning and identity (as so many scholars
suggested and developed) and (3) that meaning (significant experience)
plays an important role as a learning generator. Here in mind, I would
like to share three questions or topics that can help us to understand the
Adam Poole?s paper, in particular, and further advance our
conceptualization on contemporary topics as perezhivanie, in general.

1)      Do you think that existential funds of identity should be considered as
a type of funds of identity? In other words, should be incorporated into
the prior classification into geographical, practical, institutional,
cultural and social funds of identity? Or may be should be considered as a
?re-theorization? of funds of identity?
2)      How we could link the concepts of identity and perezhivanie?
3)      One of the aims of funds of identity is to develop an approach to the
construct ?identity? that had educational implications. What are the
educational/pedagogical implications of the existential funds of identity?

moises

--
Mois?s Esteban Guitart
Director
Institut de Recerca Educativa
Facultat d'Educaci? i Psicologia
Universitat de Girona

http://mipe.psyed.edu.es/ca/
http://psicologia.udg.edu/PTCEDH/presentation.asp
https://scholar.google.es/citations?user=cpA9UZEAAAAJ&hl=en

> Think of the origin of the idea of "catharsis." Originally
> it referred to the experience of an audience watching a
> Greek drama - their own emotions are played out in front of
> them. Later is referred to a medical method of "purging" an
> illness through vomiting, and it was adapted from there to
> refer to the talking cure, in which the patient externalised
> their problem with the help of the therapist. From
> psychotherapy it entered popular culture as an image of
> someone experiencing a traumatic personal transformation, I
> think.
>
>
> You may be quite right in terms of phases, Adam, but I think
> "reflection" and "catharsis" are closely tied together. I
> talked a lot about catharsis being to do with "processing"
> an experience, overcoming it, integrating it into one's
> personality, which does indeed sound like something very
> different from "catharsis" as I've just described it.
>
>
> It's up to you guys who are doing the qualitative research
> to figure it out though.
>
>
> Andy
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Andy Blunden
> http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
> On 18/06/2018 1:33 AM, Adam Poole (16517826) wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Thanks to Andy for getting the discussion started
>> on Resituating Funds of Identity.
>> In response to describing a perezhivanie in terms of
>> phases - I think it may be because I interpreted
>> the working over of a critical episode in terms of a
>> process, and so divided a perezhivanie into three phases.
>> This was also a result of the data - I took your
>> interpretation of a perezhivanie and used it to analyse
>> the data, but in analyzing the data, there appeared to be
>> a distinction between reflection and catharsis, which I
>> lead utilized in interpretation your interpretation of a
>> perezhivanie!
>> I had in mind the dictionary definition of phase:'a
>> distinct period or stage in a process of change or forming
>> part of something's development' (from Google) and  'a
>> distinguishable part in a course, development, or cycle:
>>
>>   * the early phases of her career' from the
>>     Merriam-Webster online dictionary.
>>
>>  *
>>
>>
>> I also understood reflection as a pre-requisite for
>> catharsis, in that a critical episode may remain
>> unaddressed or perhaps even repressed (or blocked), but
>> becoming conscious of the episode leads a person to
>> reflect on it which in turn can lead to catharsis.
>> Similarly, reflecting on your life, through narrative,
>> such as funds of identity approaches,  can trigger
>> reflection and unblock a critical episode which can lead
>> to catharsis and integration.
>> Adam
>> *
>> *
>> *From:* Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org
>> <mailto:andyb@marxists.org>>
>> *Date:* 15 June 2018 at 16:52:58 CEST
>> *To:* <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu
>> <mailto:xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>>
>> *Subject:* *[Xmca-l] Re: Resituating Funds of Identity*
>> *Reply-To:* "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
>> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>>
>>
>> I really liked this paper. I would like to make a brief
>> response on the following passage which cites my own work:
>> "Accordingly, Blunden distinguished three main units or
>> phases in his account of /perezhivanie/,
>> which, according to our data, occur in the following
>> order: critical episode, reflection, catharsis
>> and integration. That said, it has to be stressed that
>> this movement may not be linear or occur in the
>> order that we here present. We define the three phases of
>> a /perezhivanie/as follows:
>> ??? Critical episode: a traumatic experience or a
>> life-changing episode in one???s life that leads to a
>> blockage in psychological development.
>> ??? Reflection: the process of becoming conscious of,
>> reflecting on, and talking about the critical
>> episode with a significant other, such as a teacher or a
>> parent.
>> ??? Catharsis and integration: the processing or working
>> over of a critical episode in order to
>> assimilate it into the personality."
>> The summary is a good one. As to the interpretation in dot
>> point, I would make the following observations:
>>
>>   * The critical episode may be an /unblocking/. I often
>>     reflect on an important /perezhivanie /in my life in
>>     which a protracted negative experience of which I was
>>     hardly conscious, I broke through in one critical
>>     episode only seconds in duration which was utterly
>>     exhilarating, and as it happened the world changed
>>     around me and I became new person, in my own and
>>     others' eyes.
>>   * Reflection is an integral part of catharsis I think. I
>>     don't know how I would express this in terms of
>>     "phases." I really see it as a two-phase process,
>>     though on reflection just now, I have realised that
>>     there was a gradual phase preceding the critical
>>     episode which I had not thought about before. I grant
>>     that there are internal "meditative" processes as well
>>     as changes in social interaction. So the distinction
>>     between the internal and external processes is valid,
>>     but I don't think they can be separated in 'phases'.
>>
>> While I agree that a dichotomy between positive and
>> negative experiences is questionable, the distinction is
>> needed. The positive episode is developmental only because
>> of the preceding negative experience preceding it.
>>
>> Andy
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> Andy Blunden
>> http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
>> Andy Blunden's Home Page
>> <http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm>
>> www.ethicalpolitics.org<http://www.ethicalpolitics.org>
>> Andy Blunden's Home Page with links to pages I maintain
>> and mail-to buttons
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> On 15/06/2018 4:48 PM, Alfredo Jornet Gil wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> it's been a quiet period here in xmca lately, partly, I am
>> afraid, due to my failure to initiate or follow up the
>> otherwise many and insightful conversations that
>> characterise the list during this end of semester. But I
>> am back with an invitation that I hope you will find
>> interesting and, hopefully, worth participating in.
>>
>> I am attaching an article included in our Issue 2, for
>> discussion here at xmca, but in a slightly new format.
>>
>> The article is entitled /Resituating Funds of Identity
>> Within Contemporary Interpretations of Perezhivanie, /by
>> Adam Poole and Jingyi
>> Huang. Extending conceptualisations of funds of knowledge
>> and funds of identity by means of drawing a connection
>> with the concept perezhivanie, the authors present the
>> idea of *existential* funds of identity. What makes
>> interesting this latter concept is that, by contrast to a
>> most frequent sole focus on positive community resources
>> as constituting those funds of knowledge/activity, Poole
>> and Huang propose exploring how not only positive, but
>> also negative, life-changing experiences may become a
>> potential resource for individual/collective activity.
>>
>> Usually, we invite the author to discuss with us her/his
>> article. This time, we have also invited a discussant with
>> extensive experience in the field of funds of knowledge.
>> Thus, Adam Poole, as first author of the study, will be
>> with us, sharing his views, motives, and challenges in
>> developing the study. As discussant, we will have Moises
>> Esteban-Guitart, who has kindly agreed to initiate the
>> discussion and engage in what promises to be an exciting
>> and constructive dialogue. They will be joining us soon,
>> and we have also identified a list of scholars interested
>> in similar issues that may be chiming in as we move on. In
>> the meantime, I hope that many of you will get the chance
>> to have a look at this interesting article and find it
>> worth discussing. And of course, as always, everyone is
>> welcome to contribute to the discussion.
>>
>> Looking forward to an engaging discussion,
>> Alfredo
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
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>>    1. Re: cultural constructions of childhood? (Katherine
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>>    2. Re: cultural constructions of childhood? (Greg Thompson)
>>    3. Re: cultural constructions of childhood? (Greg Thompson)
>>    4.  Necessities and Necessariness (David Kellogg)
>>    5. Re: Necessities and Necessariness (Andy Blunden)
>>    6.  Resituating Funds of Identity (Alfredo Jornet Gil)
>>
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>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 01:13:52 +0000
>> From: Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu>
>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
>> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
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>> Thanks again! I'd forgotten about the Babies movie, and
>> yes, it's perfect for this course. Now I have lots of
>> reading to do!
>>
>>
>> If a database of collected works becomes available, I'd be
>> happy to post the syllabus. It's for an undergrad seminar
>> course.
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
>> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of Alfredo
>> Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 5:00:34 PM
>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>>
>>
>> That was a great list of recommendations you got, Katie, I
>> am glad.
>>
>>
>> Things are going slower than anticipated, but hopefully we
>> will sooner than later have a web platform for collecting
>> this type of resources, such as course syllabus, etc. in
>> one place, so that next time someone looks for the same,
>> they can find it immediately. Right now, is still possible
>> to do searches using keywords in xmca:
>> http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/index.html
>> <http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/index.html> but we are
>> hoping this will be very much improved. ?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Alfredo
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
>> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of Martin
>> Packer <mpacker@cantab.net>
>> Sent: 05 June 2018 22:12
>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>>
>> Some resources here too:
>>
>> <http://hraf.yale.edu/a-cross-cultural-perspective-on-childhood/>
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 5, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Katherine Wester Neal
>> <wester@uga.edu<mailto:wester@uga.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, very helpful suggestions, and thank you! Potential
>> article suggestions also welcome... :)
>>
>>
>> Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
>> Assistant Professor
>> Teacher Education & Literacy
>> Gordon State College
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From:
>> xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu<mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu<mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>>
>> on behalf of Jonathan Tudge
>> <jrtudge@uncg.edu<mailto:jrtudge@uncg.edu>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 2:24:18 PM
>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>>
>> Hi, Katie,
>>
>> Here's another one that you might find interesting.
>>
>> I, personally, think it's brilliant.
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Everyday-Lives-Young-Children-Societies-ebook/dp/B00190VF0Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1528222902&sr=8-1&keywords=everyday+lives+of+young+children%3A+culture%2C+class+and+child+rearing
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Jonathan Tudge
>>
>> Professor
>> Office: 155 Stone
>>
>> Our work on gratitude: http://morethanthanks.wp.uncg.edu/
>> <http://morethanthanks.wp.uncg.edu/>
>>
>> A new book just published: Tudge, J. & Freitas, L. (Eds.)
>> Developing gratitude in children and
>> adolescents<https://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge/books/dev-gratitude-in-children-and-adolescents-flyer.pdf>,
>> Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press
>>
>> My web site:http://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge
>>
>> Mailing address:
>> 248 Stone Building
>> Department of Human Development and Family Studies
>> PO Box 26170
>> The University of North Carolina at Greensboro
>> Greensboro, NC 27402-6170
>> USA
>>
>> phone (336) 223-6181
>> fax   (336) 334-5076
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Martin Packer
>> <mpacker@cantab.net<mailto:mpacker@cantab.net>> wrote:
>> Katie, I believe that someone mentioned this?  :)
>>
>> <https://www.amazon.com/Child-Development-Understanding-Cultural-Perspective/dp/1473993377>
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> "I may say that whenever I meet Mrs. Seligman or Dr. Lowie
>> or discuss matters with Radcliffe-Brown or Kroeber, I
>> become at once aware that my partner does not understand
>> anything in the matter, and I end usually with the feeling
>> that this also applies to myself? (Malinowski, 1930)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 5, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Katherine Wester Neal
>> <wester@uga.edu<mailto:wester@uga.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello xmca-ers,
>>
>> Long time reader, rare contributor with a question for a
>> course I'll be teaching soon. Besides Rogoff's Cultural
>> Nature of Human Development, what else would you recommend
>> in that vein? In the course, we will be exploring multiple
>> constructions of childhood across different cultures.
>>
>> Thanks for your help,
>> Katie
>>
>> Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
>> Assistant Professor
>> Teacher Education & Literacy
>> Gordon State College
>>
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>> From: Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
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>>
>> Hopefully not too late, David Lancy's The Anthropology of
>> Childhood:
>> Cherubs, Chattel, and Changelings has a nice sampling of
>> childhoods across
>> multiple cultures.
>>
>> Also, some classics from a Western historical perspective:
>> Joseph Kett's Rites of Passage: Adolescence in America
>> 1790 to Present
>> Phillip Aries' Centuries of Childhood
>>
>> And a sociological one that looked interesting:
>> https://books.google.co.kr/books?hl=en&lr=&id=q_EjCQAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PP1&dq=anthropology+and+the+construction+of+childhood&ots=EiPR30OMTA&sig=MUq_2SbvNv0MKZAx9DggFETLTi0#v=onepage&q=anthropology%20and%20the%20construction%20of%20childhood&f=false
>>
>> And I came across this more accessible book while
>> searching for the Kett
>> and thought it might be useful (I haven't read it and so
>> can't vouch for
>> quality):
>> https://books.google.co.kr/books?hl=en&lr=&id=A19CDwAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PT7&dq=kett+history+of+childhood&ots=EJq_5BUBr4&sig=g_CvUkXGi32W18dhwKP-IZZecdI#v=onepage&q=kett%20history%20of%20childhood&f=false
>>
>> Good luck!
>> -greg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Katherine Wester Neal
>> <wester@uga.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks again! I'd forgotten about the * Babies* movie,
>> and yes, it's
>> > perfect for this course. Now I have lots of reading to do!
>> >
>> >
>> > If a database of collected works becomes available, I'd
>> be happy to post
>> > the syllabus. It's for an undergrad seminar course.
>> > ------------------------------
>> > *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
>> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> > on behalf of Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
>> > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 5:00:34 PM
>> >
>> > *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> > *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>> >
>> >
>> > That was a great list of recommendations you got, Katie,
>> I am glad.
>> >
>> >
>> > Things are going slower than anticipated, but hopefully
>> we will sooner
>> > than later have a web platform for collecting this type
>> of resources, such
>> > as course syllabus, etc. in one place, so that next time
>> someone looks for
>> > the same, they can find it immediately. Right now, is
>> still possible to do
>> > searches using keywords in xmca:
>> http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/index.html
>> <http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/index.html> but
>> > we are hoping this will be very much improved. ?
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Alfredo
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> > *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
>> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> > on behalf of Martin Packer <mpacker@cantab.net>
>> > *Sent:* 05 June 2018 22:12
>> > *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> > *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>> >
>> > Some resources here too:
>> >
>> >
>> <http://hraf.yale.edu/a-cross-cultural-perspective-on-childhood/>
>> >
>> > Martin
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Jun 5, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Katherine Wester Neal
>> <wester@uga.edu> wrote:
>> >
>> > Yes, very helpful suggestions, and thank you! Potential
>> article
>> > suggestions also welcome... :)
>> >
>> > Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
>> > Assistant Professor
>> > Teacher Education & Literacy
>> > Gordon State College
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> > *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
>> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> > on behalf of Jonathan Tudge <jrtudge@uncg.edu>
>> > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 2:24:18 PM
>> > *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> > *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>> >
>> > Hi, Katie,
>> >
>> > Here's another one that you might find interesting.
>> >
>> > I, personally, think it's brilliant.
>> >
>> > https://www.amazon.com/Everyday-Lives-Young-Children-
>> > Societies-ebook/dp/B00190VF0Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=
>> > 1528222902&sr=8-1&keywords=everyday+lives+of+young+
>> > children%3A+culture%2C+class+and+child+rearing
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Jon
>> >
>> >
>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~
>> >
>> > Jonathan Tudge
>> >
>> > Professor
>> > Office: 155 Stone
>> >
>> > Our work on gratitude:
>> http://morethanthanks.wp.uncg.edu/
>> <http://morethanthanks.wp.uncg.edu/>
>> >
>> > A new book just published: Tudge, J. & Freitas, L.
>> (Eds.) Developing
>> > gratitude in children and adolescents
>> >
>> <https://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge/books/dev-gratitude-in-children-and-adolescents-flyer.pdf>,
>> > Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press
>> >
>> > My web site:http://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge
>> >
>> > Mailing address:
>> > 248 Stone Building
>> > Department of Human Development and Family Studies
>> > PO Box 26170
>> > The University of North Carolina at Greensboro
>> > Greensboro, NC 27402-6170
>> > USA
>> >
>> > phone (336) 223-6181
>> > fax   (336) 334-5076
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Martin Packer
>> <mpacker@cantab.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Katie, I believe that someone mentioned this?  :)
>> >
>> > <https://www.amazon.com/Child-Development-Understanding-Cult
>> > ural-Perspective/dp/1473993377>
>> >
>> > Martin
>> >
>> > *"I may say that whenever I meet Mrs. Seligman or Dr.
>> Lowie or discuss
>> > matters with Radcliffe-Brown or Kroeber, I become at
>> once aware that my
>> > partner does not understand anything in the matter, and
>> I end usually with
>> > the feeling that this also applies to myself?
>> (Malinowski, 1930)*
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Jun 5, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Katherine Wester Neal
>> <wester@uga.edu> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello xmca-ers,
>> >
>> > Long time reader, rare contributor with a question for a
>> course I'll be
>> > teaching soon. Besides Rogoff's *Cultural Nature of
>> Human Development*,
>> > what else would you recommend in that vein? In the
>> course, we will be
>> > exploring multiple constructions of childhood across
>> different cultures.
>> >
>> > Thanks for your help,
>> > Katie
>> >
>> > Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
>> > Assistant Professor
>> > Teacher Education & Literacy
>> > Gordon State College
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
>> Assistant Professor
>> Department of Anthropology
>> 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
>> Brigham Young University
>> Provo, UT 84602
>> WEBSITE: greg.a.thompson.byu.edu
>> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
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>> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 13:07:41 +0900
>> From: Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
>> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> Message-ID:
>>
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>>
>> and a few more on the anthropology front (in case you are
>> still interested):
>>
>> Bambi Chapin's *Childhood in a Sri Lankan Village* is very
>> good. Gottlieb
>> and De Loache have a new *A World of Babies* edition out.
>>
>> ?And ?
>> Elise Berman
>> ? has a book coming out at the end of January that does
>> some good
>> theorizing of "age", including "childhood". The title of
>> her book is:
>> *Talking Like Children: Language and the Production of Age
>> in the Marshall
>> Islands.* Oxford University Press
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:22 PM, Greg Thompson
>> <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hopefully not too late, David Lancy's The Anthropology
>> of Childhood:
>> > Cherubs, Chattel, and Changelings has a nice sampling of
>> childhoods across
>> > multiple cultures.
>> >
>> > Also, some classics from a Western historical perspective:
>> > Joseph Kett's Rites of Passage: Adolescence in America
>> 1790 to Present
>> > Phillip Aries' Centuries of Childhood
>> >
>> > And a sociological one that looked interesting:
>> > https://books.google.co.kr/books?hl=en&lr=&id=q_
>> > EjCQAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PP1&dq=anthropology+and+the+
>> > construction+of+childhood&ots=EiPR30OMTA&sig=MUq_
>> > 2SbvNv0MKZAx9DggFETLTi0#v=onepage&q=anthropology%20and%
>> > 20the%20construction%20of%20childhood&f=false
>> >
>> > And I came across this more accessible book while
>> searching for the Kett
>> > and thought it might be useful (I haven't read it and so
>> can't vouch for
>> > quality):
>> > https://books.google.co.kr/books?hl=en&lr=&id=
>> > A19CDwAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PT7&dq=kett+history+of+childhood&ots=
>> > EJq_5BUBr4&sig=g_CvUkXGi32W18dhwKP-IZZecdI#v=
>> > onepage&q=kett%20history%20of%20childhood&f=false
>> >
>> > Good luck!
>> > -greg
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Katherine Wester Neal
>> <wester@uga.edu>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thanks again! I'd forgotten about the * Babies* movie,
>> and yes, it's
>> >> perfect for this course. Now I have lots of reading to do!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> If a database of collected works becomes available, I'd
>> be happy to post
>> >> the syllabus. It's for an undergrad seminar course.
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
>> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> >> on behalf of Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
>> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 5:00:34 PM
>> >>
>> >> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> >> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of
>> childhood?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> That was a great list of recommendations you got,
>> Katie, I am glad.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Things are going slower than anticipated, but hopefully
>> we will sooner
>> >> than later have a web platform for collecting this type
>> of resources, such
>> >> as course syllabus, etc. in one place, so that next
>> time someone looks for
>> >> the same, they can find it immediately. Right now, is
>> still possible to do
>> >> searches using keywords in xmca:
>> http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/index.html
>> <http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/index.html> but
>> >> we are hoping this will be very much improved. ?
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> Alfredo
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
>> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> >> on behalf of Martin Packer <mpacker@cantab.net>
>> >> *Sent:* 05 June 2018 22:12
>> >> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> >> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of
>> childhood?
>> >>
>> >> Some resources here too:
>> >>
>> >>
>> <http://hraf.yale.edu/a-cross-cultural-perspective-on-childhood/>
>> >>
>> >> Martin
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Jun 5, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Katherine Wester Neal
>> <wester@uga.edu> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Yes, very helpful suggestions, and thank you! Potential
>> article
>> >> suggestions also welcome... :)
>> >>
>> >> Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
>> >> Assistant Professor
>> >> Teacher Education & Literacy
>> >> Gordon State College
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
>> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> >> on behalf of Jonathan Tudge <jrtudge@uncg.edu>
>> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 2:24:18 PM
>> >> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> >> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of
>> childhood?
>> >>
>> >> Hi, Katie,
>> >>
>> >> Here's another one that you might find interesting.
>> >>
>> >> I, personally, think it's brilliant.
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Everyday-Lives-Young-Children-Societi
>> >>
>> es-ebook/dp/B00190VF0Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1528222902&sr=
>> >> 8-1&keywords=everyday+lives+of+young+children%3A+culture%
>> >> 2C+class+and+child+rearing
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> Jon
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~
>> >>
>> >> Jonathan Tudge
>> >>
>> >> Professor
>> >> Office: 155 Stone
>> >>
>> >> Our work on gratitude:
>> http://morethanthanks.wp.uncg.edu/
>> <http://morethanthanks.wp.uncg.edu/>
>> >>
>> >> A new book just published: Tudge, J. & Freitas, L.
>> (Eds.) Developing
>> >> gratitude in children and adolescents
>> >>
>> <https://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge/books/dev-gratitude-in-children-and-adolescents-flyer.pdf>,
>> >> Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press
>> >>
>> >> My web site:http://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge
>> >>
>> >> Mailing address:
>> >> 248 Stone Building
>> >> Department of Human Development and Family Studies
>> >> PO Box 26170
>> >> The University of North Carolina at Greensboro
>> >> Greensboro, NC 27402-6170
>> >> USA
>> >>
>> >> phone (336) 223-6181
>> >> fax   (336) 334-5076
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Martin Packer
>> <mpacker@cantab.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Katie, I believe that someone mentioned this?  :)
>> >>
>> >>
>> <https://www.amazon.com/Child-Development-Understanding-Cult
>> >> ural-Perspective/dp/1473993377>
>> >>
>> >> Martin
>> >>
>> >> *"I may say that whenever I meet Mrs. Seligman or Dr.
>> Lowie or discuss
>> >> matters with Radcliffe-Brown or Kroeber, I become at
>> once aware that my
>> >> partner does not understand anything in the matter, and
>> I end usually with
>> >> the feeling that this also applies to myself?
>> (Malinowski, 1930)*
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Jun 5, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Katherine Wester Neal
>> <wester@uga.edu>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hello xmca-ers,
>> >>
>> >> Long time reader, rare contributor with a question for
>> a course I'll be
>> >> teaching soon. Besides Rogoff's *Cultural Nature of
>> Human Development*,
>> >> what else would you recommend in that vein? In the
>> course, we will be
>> >> exploring multiple constructions of childhood across
>> different cultures.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your help,
>> >> Katie
>> >>
>> >> Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
>> >> Assistant Professor
>> >> Teacher Education & Literacy
>> >> Gordon State College
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
>> > Assistant Professor
>> > Department of Anthropology
>> > 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
>> > Brigham Young University
>> > Provo, UT 84602
>> > WEBSITE: greg.a.thompson.byu.edu
>> > http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
>> <http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
>> Assistant Professor
>> Department of Anthropology
>> 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
>> Brigham Young University
>> Provo, UT 84602
>> WEBSITE: greg.a.thompson.byu.edu
>> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
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>> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 07:00:06 +0900
>> From: David Kellogg <dkellogg60@gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Xmca-l]  Necessities and Necessariness
>> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
>> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>> Message-ID:
>>
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>>
>> Andy has an amazing on-line discussion, going back almost
>> exactly two
>> decades, on "Freedom as the Recognition of Necessity",
>> which was Engels's
>> exaptation of a Heglian formulation (which in turn comes
>> from Spinoza.
>>
>> https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/txt/davie07.htm
>>
>> As I understand it, Andy is arguing that freedom as the
>> recognition of
>> necessity in Hegel and Spinoza is a kind of philosophical
>> resignation to
>> one's fate, but in Marx and Vygotsky it is a kind of
>> active realization of
>> one's own labor and hence one's own selfhood in the
>> transformation of the
>> environment.
>>
>> The Soviet model of Marxism is a negation of both of
>> these.  On the one
>> hand, externalization is active in nature, because it
>> really involves
>> turning the tables on the environment and forcing it to
>> adapt to human
>> necessities. And on the other hand it has very little room
>> for "one's own
>> labor" and still less for "one's own selfhood": "One" is not a
>> statistically significant, hence not a necessary, number.
>>
>> I think one way to reconcile this view with Andy's view is
>> to make a
>> distinction between externalization as the recognition of
>> the necessariness
>> of necessities, and externalization as the recognition of
>> both one's own
>> necessariness and that of others. These seem to me to be
>> two distinct
>> processes, belonging to two different stages of
>> development (and to the
>> deveopment of tools on the one hand and signs on the
>> other). But perhaps
>> "seem" is the word I should be stressing.
>>
>> (In the article linked below, which I did with my wife,
>> there is this four
>> year old girl who is trying to learn the times tables. She
>> keeps getting
>> stuck: Why can't you just put three and five together and
>> get thirty five?
>> Her grandmother is old school: your solution counts for
>> nothing: Your
>> presumed necessariness is not as important as instrumental
>> necessity. And
>> of course at one stage of development that is true; but
>> "sustainable
>> development" is everywhere and always a contradiction in
>> terms: no
>> development can ever sustain itself against itself.)
>>
>> David Kellogg
>> Sangmyung University
>>
>> New in *Early Years*, co-authored with Fang Li:
>>
>> When three fives are thirty-five: Vygotsky in a Hallidayan
>> idiom ? and
>> maths in the grandmother tongue
>>
>> Some free e-prints available at:
>>
>> https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/7I8zYW3qkEqNBA66XAwS/full
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 12:00:59 +1000
>> From: Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org>
>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Necessities and Necessariness
>> To: xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> David,
>>
>> The text you have discovered is indeed 20 years old. At that
>> time I knew nothing about Hegel, and nor could I find anyone
>> to learn from, and there were very few philosophical texts
>> available on the nascent internet. So I started copy-typing
>> Hegel texts on to my web site and encouraging people to
>> discuss them. This was my own do-it-yourself university. And
>> I have preserved this old discussion in case they are of use
>> to others.
>>
>> Now, the text you discovered is written *all* by my old
>> friend Davie MacLean, who was in those days a big fan of
>> Heidegger but an avid student of all philosophy. The first
>> part is addressed to me and the second part copied from a
>> letter from Davie to Cyril Smith, my star participant in
>> that discussion. Davie and I were both enthralled with
>> Cyril's new book, "Marx at the Millennium" and Cyril's
>> participation was an attractor for people to join in the
>> discussion.
>>
>> Here are some messages from Cyril to give you context:
>> https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/txt/cyril25.htm
>>
>> Much as I enjoyed my debates with Davie, I did not emerge
>> from them as a fan of Heidegger. During the past 6 months I
>> have been spending a lot of time studying Hegel's Philosophy
>> of Right. I certainly do not see the question, and nor did
>> Hegel, in terms of "reconciliation to one's fate," which is
>> indeed much closer to Spinoza's view.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> Andy Blunden
>> http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
>> On 9/06/2018 8:00 AM, David Kellogg wrote:
>> > Andy has an amazing on-line discussion, going back almost
>> > exactly two decades, on "Freedom as the Recognition of
>> > Necessity", which was Engels's exaptation of a Heglian
>> > formulation (which in turn comes from Spinoza.
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/txt/davie07.htm
>> >
>> > As I understand it, Andy is arguing that freedom as the
>> > recognition of necessity in Hegel and Spinoza is a kind of
>> > philosophical resignation to one's fate, but in Marx and
>> > Vygotsky it is a kind of active realization of one's own
>> > labor and hence one's own selfhood in the transformation
>> > of the environment.
>> >
>> > The Soviet model of Marxism is a negation of both of
>> > these.  On the one hand, externalization is active in
>> > nature, because it really involves turning the tables on
>> > the environment and forcing it to adapt to human
>> > necessities. And on the other hand it has very little room
>> > for "one's own labor" and still less for "one's own
>> > selfhood": "One" is not a statistically significant, hence
>> > not a necessary, number.
>> >
>> > I think one way to reconcile this view with Andy's view is
>> > to make a distinction between externalization as the
>> > recognition of the necessariness of necessities, and
>> > externalization as the recognition of both one's own
>> > necessariness and that of others. These seem to me to be
>> > two distinct processes, belonging to two different stages
>> > of development (and to the deveopment of tools on the one
>> > hand and signs on the other). But perhaps "seem" is the
>> > word I should be stressing.
>> >
>> > (In the article linked below, which I did with my
>> > wife, there is this four year old girl who is trying to
>> > learn the times tables. She keeps getting stuck: Why can't
>> > you just put three and five together and get thirty five?
>> > Her grandmother is old school: your solution counts for
>> > nothing: Your presumed necessariness is not as important
>> > as instrumental necessity. And of course at one stage of
>> > development that is true; but "sustainable development" is
>> > everywhere and always a contradiction in terms: no
>> > development can ever sustain itself against itself.)
>> >
>> > David Kellogg
>> > Sangmyung University
>> >
>> > New in /Early Years/, co-authored with Fang Li:
>> >
>> > When three fives are thirty-five: Vygotsky in a Hallidayan
>> > idiom ? and maths in the grandmother tongue
>> >
>> > Some free e-prints available at:
>> >
>> > https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/7I8zYW3qkEqNBA66XAwS/full
>> >
>> >
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>> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 06:48:18 +0000
>> From: Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
>> Subject: [Xmca-l]  Resituating Funds of Identity
>> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
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>> Dear all,
>>
>>
>> it's been a quiet period here in xmca lately, partly, ?I
>> am afraid, due to my failure to initiate or follow up the
>> otherwis?e many and insightful conversations that
>> characterise the list during this end of semester. But I
>> am back with an invitation that I hope you will find
>> interesting and, hopefully, worth participating in.
>>
>>
>> I am attaching an article included in our Issue 2, for
>> discussion here at xmca, but in a slightly new format.
>>
>>
>> The article is entitled ??Resituating Funds of Identity
>> Within Contemporary Interpretations of Perezhivanie, ?by
>> Adam Poole and Jingyi Huang. Extending conceptualisations
>> of funds of knowledge and funds of identity by means of
>> drawing a connection with the concept perezhivanie, the
>> authors present the idea of *existential* funds of
>> identity. What makes interesting this latter concept is
>> that, by contrast to a most frequent sole focus on
>> positive community resources as constituting those funds
>> of knowledge/activity, Poole and Huang propose exploring
>> how not only positive, but also negative, life-changing
>> experiences may become a potential resource for
>> individual/collective activity.
>>
>>
>> Usually, we invite the author to discuss with us her/his
>> article. This time, we have also invited a discussant with
>> extensive experience in the field of funds of knowledge.
>> Thus, Adam Poole, as first author of the study, will be
>> with us, sharing his views, motives, and challenges in
>> developing the study. As discussant, we will have Moises
>> Esteban-Guitart, who has kindly agreed to initiate the
>> discussion and engage in what promises to be an exciting
>> and constructive dialogue. They will be joining us soon,
>> and we have also identified a list of scholars interested
>> in similar issues that may be chiming in as we move on. In
>> the meantime, I hope that many of you will get the chance
>> to have a look at this interesting article and find it
>> worth discussing. And of course, as always, everyone is
>> welcome to contribute to the discussion.
>>
>>
>> Looking forward to an engaging discussion,
>>
>> Alfredo
>>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 02:14:18 +0000
From: "Adam Poole (16517826)" <Adam.Poole@nottingham.edu.cn>
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re-situating funds of identity within contemporary
        interpretations of perezhivanie
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Thanks to Moises for posting some questions about the article that I would like to respond to.

I will first include his summary and interpretation of the paper and then respond to his questions.

Interpretation of paper

The Poole?s paper invited me to enrich the notion of funds of identity.
Grounded in the funds of knowledge approach, the funds of identity concept
try to intentionally reinforce the positive backgrounds and experiences of
learners to overcome the deficit thinking in education (to sum up: by
reducing marginalized school population to a sum of cultural, social,
linguistic deficits).  However, our experience is not only light. And in
the dark funds of knowledge suggested by Zipin, existential funds of
identity invite us to capture a more holistic view on people?s experience.
In my opinion, deep learning (meaningful, significant learning) is based
on the recognition and transformation of learners? identities. This
assertion, that would be one of my working hypothesis, assumes three
theoretical principles: (1) that human identities are culturally-situated
and distributed (geographical funds of identity, cultural funds of
identity, institutional funds of identity and so on); (2) that there is a
constitutive link between learning and identity (as so many scholars
suggested and developed) and (3) that meaning (significant experience)
plays an important role as a learning generator. Here in mind, I would
like to share three questions or topics that can help us to understand the
Adam Poole?s paper, in particular, and further advance our
conceptualization on contemporary topics as perezhivanie, in general.

Questions

1)        Do you think that existential funds of identity should be
considered as a type of funds of identity? In other words, should be incorporated into the prior classification into geographical, practical, institutional, cultural and social funds of identity? Or may be should be considered as a ?re-theorization? of funds of identity?

This is a question that I have been struggling with for some time. When I initially uncovered existential funds of identity I considered to be more than a type of funds of identity. I couldn't see how it related to the five categories that you proposed, as to me the type of identity being described was more internal or meditative. However, the more I researched into the funds of identity concept and its theoretical underpinnings, the more I came to question this conclusion. Firstly, funds of identity, as I understand it, is predicated upon a synthesis of macro and micro-level approaches to culture - that is, identity is embedded in artefacts and social practices and therefore is distributed in nature. However, to bring in the concept of perezhivanie, individuals construct new identities from the social identities that surround them. In contrast, I initially understood existential funds of identity as largely phenomenological in nature. However, on reflection, I realised that issues to do with identity confusion, relationship problems, etc, are social in nature.

So, existential funds of identity should be seen as a complement to funds of identity, rather than a re-theorisation of it. Most significantly, it can be used to show how negative experiences can be drawn on in order to bring about positive pedagogical outcomes.

However, I would be interested to know if anyone else thinks that existential funds of identity complements or contradicts the concept developed by Moises.

2)        How we could link the concepts of identity and perezhivanie?

Good question! For me. identity is an open-ended process that is both personal and social in nature. For this reason, perezhivanie is a really useful concept to bring this relationship into focus. Firstly, it shows how development is the result of the dialectical relationship between the mind and the environment. This relates to identity in a big way, as it suggests that identity is quite fluid: we are different people in different times and across different contexts. Perezhivanie is relevant here as it helps to explain the way individuals relate differentially to their environments. In relation to my teaching, I have found that students do not embody fixed identities that they take with them from class to class, but construct new identities in response to their classes - the teacher, the students, the subject. To draw upon, and extend Thompson and Hall's (2008) metaphor of 'virtual school bags of knowledge' - students do not only bring one school bag with them, but have many different bags from which they draw in the construction, and performance, of their classroom identities.

This realisation lead me to question the role of labelling that you often find in staff rooms - this is the 'difficult' student, this is the 'gifted' student, etc. By observing students' behaviour in other classes, I realised that there was something going on between the students and their environments - hence the link between identity and perezhivanie. Rather than engaging with the imposed label (that really says more about our deficit thinking than the students themselves) we should engage with the students' lived experiences of their social world - both positive and negative.

3)        One of the aims of funds of identity is to develop an approach
to the construct ?identity? that had educational implications. What are the
educational/pedagogical implications of the existential funds of identity?

This is a bit more of a complicated one! I do agree with your assertion that drawing upon minoritised students' negative or problematic experiences could lead to the reproduction of deficit thinking. However, I do think that if handled ethically, teachers can draw upon both light and dark funds of identity in order to valorise the whole child and their social worlds. So pedagogically, existential funds of identity can help to develop 'thick' stranded relationships between teachers and students. Moreover, it can also bridge the gap between the classroom and home by acknowledging that life and individual experiencing is complex and multi-layered, often involving critical moments that are ambivalent in nature. I have to say that this approach may not be appropriate for younger learners. I had in mind adolescent learners when I developed the idea of existential funds of identity.

Cheers,

Adam

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Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 23:20:52 -0400
From: David Preiss <preiss.xmca@gmail.com>
Subject: [Xmca-l]  SCRD and U.S. immigration policy statement
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
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Dear colleagues,

This may open a constructive dialogue here on the always complex relation
between policy, politics, science and human rights.

DP

Statement of Laura L. Namy, Executive Director, Society for Research in
Child Development on U.S. Policy of Separating Immigrant Children from
their Families at the Border

https://www.srcd.org/sites/default/files/documents/statement_from_laura_l_namy_child_separation_2.pdf
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Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 23:25:39 -0400
From: David Preiss <preiss.xmca@gmail.com>
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: SCRD and U.S. immigration policy statement
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
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PS. The twitter account of SRCD then disseminated related evidence and
posted a new statement:

https://mobile.twitter.com/SRCDtweets

SRCD Statement Addressing the Evidence on Child Separation from Families:
The science on separating children from their families is unambiguous: It
is harmful to children?s development and long-term physical, mental, and
emotional health. It disrupts a child?s sense of security, removes a
child?s strongest source of comfort, and causes harm to a child?s
well-being. The evidence underscores the importance of prioritizing keeping
children secure with their families.

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:20 PM, David Preiss <preiss.xmca@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> This may open a constructive dialogue here on the always complex relation
> between policy, politics, science and human rights.
>
> DP
>
> Statement of Laura L. Namy, Executive Director, Society for Research in
> Child Development on U.S. Policy of Separating Immigrant Children from
> their Families at the Border
>
> https://www.srcd.org/sites/default/files/documents/
> statement_from_laura_l_namy_child_separation_2.pdf
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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 07:30:06 +0000
From: Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: SCRD and U.S. immigration policy statement
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
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Thanks for sharing this, David. Many of us are deeply concerned and sad with the barbarity and inhumanity that the people in the US borders and lands are suffering because of current US policies with immigration, not to mention the recent withdrawall from UN's Human Rights Council. But yes, I totally agree that this opens wide room for discussing the always complex relation between science and politics.

Personally, I totally support the writing of a scientific repport showing the "evidence" of the inhumanity of separating young children from their parents. But I am very unsure about the adequacy of a supposedly non-partisan position of using "scientific" evidence as a sort of blank sheet upon which to draw political opinions and choices, specially when the "science" concerns basic human rights of and for evelopment and well-being that any other species *knows* without uncertainty, with tenacious and irrevocable objectivity. Is the work of documenting the *need* and *right* of children to remain together with their parents really about "objectivity"? Or put another way, what type of science is that which cannot tell whether separating children from parents/caregivers is *bad* and *not right*? After all, the SCRD's statement seems quite unambigous with regard to what has "importance" and should be "prioritized".

A can of worms. Surely many here that have a much more articulated position about this. I am very curious about what the views on this are. With five IPCC reports out there and seeing the little progress made on Climate Change issues, this debate, though old, is far from exhausted, I am afraid.

Alfredo

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Sent: 20 June 2018 05:25
To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: SCRD and U.S. immigration policy statement

PS. The twitter account of SRCD then disseminated related evidence and posted a new statement:

https://mobile.twitter.com/SRCDtweets

SRCD Statement Addressing the Evidence on Child Separation from Families: The science on separating children from their families is unambiguous: It is harmful to children's development and long-term physical, mental, and emotional health. It disrupts a child's sense of security, removes a child's strongest source of comfort, and causes harm to a child's well-being. The evidence underscores the importance of prioritizing keeping children secure with their families.

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:20 PM, David Preiss <preiss.xmca@gmail.com<mailto:preiss.xmca@gmail.com>> wrote:

Dear colleagues,

This may open a constructive dialogue here on the always complex relation between policy, politics, science and human rights.

DP

Statement of Laura L. Namy, Executive Director, Society for Research in Child Development on U.S. Policy of Separating Immigrant Children from their Families at the Border

https://www.srcd.org/sites/default/files/documents/statement_from_laura_l_namy_child_separation_2.pdf

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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 11:19:10 -0400
From: David Preiss <preiss.xmca@gmail.com>
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
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What about the works of the late William Kessen? (Sorry if I am repeating
something mentioned above, just coming back to XMCA after a long hiatus)

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 12:07 AM, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
wrote:

> and a few more on the anthropology front (in case you are still
> interested):
>
> Bambi Chapin's *Childhood in a Sri Lankan Village* is very good. Gottlieb
> and De Loache have a new *A World of Babies* edition out.
>
> ?And ?
> Elise Berman
> ? has a book coming out at the end of January that does some good
> theorizing of "age", including "childhood". The title of her book is:
> *Talking Like Children: Language and the Production of Age in the Marshall
> Islands.* Oxford University Press
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:22 PM, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hopefully not too late, David Lancy's The Anthropology of Childhood:
>> Cherubs, Chattel, and Changelings has a nice sampling of childhoods across
>> multiple cultures.
>>
>> Also, some classics from a Western historical perspective:
>> Joseph Kett's Rites of Passage: Adolescence in America 1790 to Present
>> Phillip Aries' Centuries of Childhood
>>
>> And a sociological one that looked interesting:
>> https://books.google.co.kr/books?hl=en&lr=&id=q_EjCQAAQBAJ&
>> oi=fnd&pg=PP1&dq=anthropology+and+the+construction+of+
>> childhood&ots=EiPR30OMTA&sig=MUq_2SbvNv0MKZAx9DggFETLTi0#v=
>> onepage&q=anthropology%20and%20the%20construction%20of%20chi
>> ldhood&f=false
>>
>> And I came across this more accessible book while searching for the Kett
>> and thought it might be useful (I haven't read it and so can't vouch for
>> quality):
>> https://books.google.co.kr/books?hl=en&lr=&id=A19CDwAAQBAJ&
>> oi=fnd&pg=PT7&dq=kett+history+of+childhood&ots=EJq_5BUBr4&
>> sig=g_CvUkXGi32W18dhwKP-IZZecdI#v=onepage&q=kett%
>> 20history%20of%20childhood&f=false
>>
>> Good luck!
>> -greg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks again! I'd forgotten about the * Babies* movie, and yes, it's
>>> perfect for this course. Now I have lots of reading to do!
>>>
>>>
>>> If a database of collected works becomes available, I'd be happy to post
>>> the syllabus. It's for an undergrad seminar course.
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>>> on behalf of Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 5:00:34 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>>> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>>>
>>>
>>> That was a great list of recommendations you got, Katie, I am glad.
>>>
>>>
>>> Things are going slower than anticipated, but hopefully we will sooner
>>> than later have a web platform for collecting this type of resources, such
>>> as course syllabus, etc. in one place, so that next time someone looks for
>>> the same, they can find it immediately. Right now, is still possible to do
>>> searches using keywords in xmca: http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA
>>> /Mail/index.html but we are hoping this will be very much improved. ?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Alfredo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>>> on behalf of Martin Packer <mpacker@cantab.net>
>>> *Sent:* 05 June 2018 22:12
>>> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>>> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>>>
>>> Some resources here too:
>>>
>>> <http://hraf.yale.edu/a-cross-cultural-perspective-on-childhood/>
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 5, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, very helpful suggestions, and thank you! Potential article
>>> suggestions also welcome... :)
>>>
>>> Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
>>> Assistant Professor
>>> Teacher Education & Literacy
>>> Gordon State College
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>>> on behalf of Jonathan Tudge <jrtudge@uncg.edu>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 2:24:18 PM
>>> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>>> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: cultural constructions of childhood?
>>>
>>> Hi, Katie,
>>>
>>> Here's another one that you might find interesting.
>>>
>>> I, personally, think it's brilliant.
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Everyday-Lives-Young-Children-Societi
>>> es-ebook/dp/B00190VF0Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1528222902&sr=
>>> 8-1&keywords=everyday+lives+of+young+children%3A+culture%2C+
>>> class+and+child+rearing
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>> Jonathan Tudge
>>>
>>> Professor
>>> Office: 155 Stone
>>>
>>> Our work on gratitude: http://morethanthanks.wp.uncg.edu/
>>>
>>> A new book just published: Tudge, J. & Freitas, L. (Eds.) Developing
>>> gratitude in children and adolescents
>>> <https://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge/books/dev-gratitude-in-children-and-adolescents-flyer.pdf>,
>>> Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press
>>>
>>> My web site:http://www.uncg.edu/hdf/faculty/tudge
>>>
>>> Mailing address:
>>> 248 Stone Building
>>> Department of Human Development and Family Studies
>>> PO Box 26170
>>> The University of North Carolina at Greensboro
>>> Greensboro, NC 27402-6170
>>> USA
>>>
>>> phone (336) 223-6181
>>> fax   (336) 334-5076
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Martin Packer <mpacker@cantab.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Katie, I believe that someone mentioned this?  :)
>>>
>>> <https://www.amazon.com/Child-Development-Understanding-Cult
>>> ural-Perspective/dp/1473993377>
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> *"I may say that whenever I meet Mrs. Seligman or Dr. Lowie or discuss
>>> matters with Radcliffe-Brown or Kroeber, I become at once aware that my
>>> partner does not understand anything in the matter, and I end usually with
>>> the feeling that this also applies to myself? (Malinowski, 1930)*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 5, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Katherine Wester Neal <wester@uga.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello xmca-ers,
>>>
>>> Long time reader, rare contributor with a question for a course I'll be
>>> teaching soon. Besides Rogoff's *Cultural Nature of Human Development*,
>>> what else would you recommend in that vein? In the course, we will be
>>> exploring multiple constructions of childhood across different cultures.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help,
>>> Katie
>>>
>>> Katie Wester-Neal, Ph.D.
>>> Assistant Professor
>>> Teacher Education & Literacy
>>> Gordon State College
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
>> Assistant Professor
>> Department of Anthropology
>> 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
>> Brigham Young University
>> Provo, UT 84602
>> WEBSITE: greg.a.thompson.byu.edu
>> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Department of Anthropology
> 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
> Brigham Young University
> Provo, UT 84602
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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 11:21:48 -0400
From: David Preiss <preiss.xmca@gmail.com>
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: FW: Fyi
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
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Many thanks for sharing this, Peter. I have always been curious about LSV
jewish heritage and did not know of many sources available. (My father was
born in Russia  and his parent are Jews from Poland and Austria, holocaust
survivors...)

On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 12:41 PM, Peter Smagorinsky <smago@uga.edu> wrote:

> Another interesting paper by Rene and colleague on LSV's Jewish heritage,
> something I've been fascinated by for several years (my grandparents were
> Jews from Gomel, came to the US in 1913 and 1916 to escape pogroms; my dad
> had 2 brothers born there, he and a brother were born in New York).
>
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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 15:29:42 +0000
From: Engestr?m, Yrj? H M <yrjo.engestrom@helsinki.fi>
Subject: [Xmca-l]  A new book, and a new translation
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
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Dear colleagues, in the next few weeks, Cambridge University Press is publishing my new book, Expertise in Transition: Expansive Learning in Medical Work, announced below.

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My previous book, Studies in Expansive Learning: Learning What Is Not Yet There, also published by Cambridge University Press (2016), has just been published in Japanese by the publishing house
Shin-yo-sha in Tokyo (see the book cover below). The translation of the book was led by Professor Katsuhiro Yamazumi from Kansai University in Osaka.

I wish you all a relaxing and productive summer!

Yrj? Engestr?m

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