[Xmca-l] Object of activity (was: Swedish activist Elon Ersson wins the day)

[Huw Lloyd]

Since my original endeavours I have switched to referring to the task goal
or goal of activity, in conformance with Bedny et al's terminology.
Personally this does not change my systemic formulations, but it does seem
to point to holes in others', whilst reducing ambiguity.

"An object of activity that can be material or mental (symbols, images,
etc.) is something that can be modified by a subject according to the
activity goal (Bedny and Karwowski, 2007; Leont’ev, 1981; Rubinshtein,
1957; Zinchenko, 1995)." Bedny (2015, p. 91)

This is from the chapter "Basic Concepts and Terminology" which offers
further elaboration (ref below).

Best,
Huw

Bedny, G. Z. (2015) *Application of Systemic-Structural Activity Theory to
Design and Training*. Boca Raton: CRC Press

On 26 July 2018 at 02:54, Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org> wrote:

> ... to continue this dialogue on winning and losing, a now-departed friend
> who was a writer once commented to me after we had together watched an
> inspiring play performed by Melbourne Workers' Theatre, that for the
> working class *every* struggle, every story of victory, ends in defeat,
> simply because the object of the workers' movement lies if at all in the
> future; the road to socialism is a series of small victories followed by
> defeats. Until .... So Elon is acting in a fine tradition.
>
> The distinction between goal and object (by whatever names) was relevant
> for the recent xmca discussion around the Brazilian social movements, which
> kept popping up with different goals, but, one suspects, shared a common
> object.
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> Andy
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> PS. For the distinction between goal and object, I rely on A N Leonytev's
> succinct definition of action: "Processes, the object and motive of which
> do not coincide with one another, we shall call ‘actions’." but choice of
> words for object, goal, aim, motive, etc., is problematic. I have chosen
> "object" for what Hegel calls "Intention" and Leontyev calls "motivation"
> and "goal" for what ANL calls "object" in the above quote.
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> Andy Blunden
> http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
> On 25/07/2018 10:21 PM, Andy Blunden wrote:
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> She achieved her goal. Her object will take longer to realise. Important
> to recognise the difference.
>
> Andy
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> Andy Blunden
> http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
> On 25/07/2018 10:18 PM, Julian Williams wrote:
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> Andy
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> She wins and yet she doesn’t – the guy she went to ‘rescue’ was deported
> on another flight, but she got the support of people on the plane (some
> even joined her protest) and is being applauded by millions worldwide now:
> this is a growing aspect of resistance activism, losing and winning.
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> And the battle against deportations, and indeed fascism, in Sweden and
> elsewhere continues….
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> Julian
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> *From: * <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu><xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.
> edu> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of Andy Blunden
> <andyb@marxists.org> <andyb@marxists.org>
> *Reply-To: *"eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 25 July 2018 at 13:11
> *To: *"xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> *Subject: *[Xmca-l] Re: Swedish activist Elon Ersson wins the day
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> Yes, you can see the stress on his young women's face and she stands
> strong under enormous pressure and she wins. Wonderful!
>
> andy
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> Andy Blunden
> http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
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> On 25/07/2018 10:07 PM, Julian Williams wrote:
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> I think you and xmca may like this:
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> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/25/swedish-
> student-plane-protest-stops-mans-deportation-afghanistan
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> ☺
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> Julian
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