[Xmca-l] Re: Interesting article on robots and social learning

[Andy Blunden]

... Sorry. I didn't spell that out. Since a robot cannot
have motivations they do not have emotions.

Andy

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Andy Blunden
http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
On 3/07/2018 9:20 PM, Andy Blunden wrote:
>
> It seems to be obvious that the robot does not have
> motivation. It's motivation lies, as you say, in the
> activities of human beings in which it is included. The
> human participants in such activities have that motivation
> within themselves though, and consequently they have
> motivations. The robot has no more motivation than a
> hammer has motivation.
>
> Andy
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> Andy Blunden
> http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
> On 3/07/2018 9:16 PM, Alfredo Jornet Gil wrote:
>>
>> Andy, are not motives aspects of activities (not of
>> individuals)? If so, the question you just posed does not
>> seem to make sense, does it? 
>>
>>
>> Another question would be, is there a robot that can be
>> the subject of sensuous, objective activity? Obviously,
>> the Turing test would not be able to answer this
>> question. But would a test capable of addressing that
>> question consist in finding out whether the robot "has"
>> emotion, or "motivation"? Or, what would such a test look
>> like?
>>
>>
>> Alfredo
>>
>>
>>
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>> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
>> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of Andy
>> Blunden <andyb@marxists.org>
>> *Sent:* 03 July 2018 13:04
>> *To:* xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu
>> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: Interesting article on robots and
>> social learning
>>  
>>
>> Does a robot have "motivation"?
>>
>> andy
>>
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>> Andy Blunden
>> http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
>> On 3/07/2018 5:28 PM, Rod Parker-Rees wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Greg,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> What is most interesting to me about the understanding
>>> of learning which informs most AI projects is that it
>>> seems to assume that affect is irrelevant. The role of
>>> caring, liking, worrying etc. in social learning seems
>>> to be almost universally overlooked because information
>>> is seen as something that can be ‘got’ and ‘given’ more
>>> than something that is distributed in relationships.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Does anyone know about any AI projects which consider
>>> how machines might feel about what they learn?
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>>
>>> Rod
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:*xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
>>> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> *On Behalf Of *Greg
>>> Thompson
>>> *Sent:* 03 July 2018 02:50
>>> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>>> <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
>>> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Interesting article on robots and
>>> social learning
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I’m ambivalent about this project but I suspect that
>>> some young CHAT scholar out there could have a lot to
>>> contribute to a project like this one:
>>>
>>> https://www.sapiens.org/column/machinations/artificial-intelligence-culture/
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> -Greg 
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
>>> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
>>>
>>> Assistant Professor
>>>
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>>>
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