[Xmca-l] Re: Working Class Strikes Back

[Harshad Dave]

Francine (if I may),
Thanks for your view. I have used the word "bourgeoise" just representing
all those who exploite, and it should be taken in that way only. My point
is...
"Is it sure that taking rule under control of working class will solve all
social issues that we face today and blame bourgeoise responsible for that?
Is it realistic that working class will costitute a social net work that
will not permit any exploitation and retain productivity in line with
present capitalistic society?
I think you need to cotemplate on it.
Harshad Dave


On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 2:48 PM Larry Smolucha, <lsmolucha@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Message from Francine Smolucha:
>
> Dave,
>
> One of the complications has been the third 'tent' that has  emerged  -
> the 'welfare' class (on the dole to use the British term). The working
> class  proletariats are oppressed on two sides -by  the bourgeios and by
> the 'welfare' class. The 'welfare' class has grown to include a mass of
> unemployed people who collect entitlements such as welfare, social
> security, and medicaid. This is why blue collar workers (the original
> proletariats for Marx) have turned to  billionaire capitalist Donald Trump
> to
> create an economy where they can work and keep more of their earned money. *The
> working class has come to view the 'welfare' class as their major oppressor
> not the capitalist bourgeois.*
>
> Every able bodied man, woman, and  teen-ager were supposed to work in a
> socialist state according to Marx's axiom* "From each according to his
> ability to each according to his needs."  *Also, one's career path was
> determined by the work that needed to be done not by one's personal
> aspirations.
>
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> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> on behalf of Harshad Dave <hhdave15@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 30, 2018 9:12 AM
> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Views are requested.
>
>
> Dear All,
> This is with reference to the article “The Working Class Strikes Back” by
> Chris Wright.
>
> (Link: https://www.academia.edu/37306144/The_Working_Class_Strikes_Back)
>
> USSR and China were the two countries that passed through the revolution
> and socialist rule prevailed there. Both the countries faced hard time
> initially, achieved progress also and ultimately they had to bring some
> compromise, somewhere in between capitalism and Socialism perhaps. I think
> there must be impartial study and review in this matter i. e. where the
> things went wrong. I have tried at my level and I put my views as follow,
> Generally, if a fresh and impartial young person goes through the
> socialist literature in books, articles, speeches and correspondences, he
> will surely get one impression. If I narrate the impression in one
> sentence, it might read as….,
> “The capitalistic society is constituted in two tents named “bourgeois
> tent” and “proletariat tent”. The bourgeois are the root cause of grief and
> peril of this society. Proletariat should take over the rule of the society
> in their hand and they should regulate and control the social system in
> compliance with socialist policy and principles.”
> Personally I am neither in favor of bourgeois nor opponent of proletariat,
> I have studied the nature, choices and intentions of proletariat, they are
> good people but they are not immune from capitalistic mind set. I do not
> criticize them for that because it has to be that only. Likewise, bourgeois
> are exploitative and moral less people but both (bourgeois and proletariat)
> are product of social evolution.
> It is the great mistake forefathers of socialism did and that is
> exclusively concentrating on the above two tents. In fact reasons of social
> peril lie elsewhere. Existence of two tents of bourgeois and proletariat is
> the resultant product of social evolution. Even if proletariat successfully
> take over the rule of a society in their hand, the fundamental reasons of
> the root cause of the social peril still remains there. When socialism does
> not have knowledge of these reasons, how they will be able to establish a
> social structure that they dream.
> Your views will support to arrive near to the fact finding.
> With true regards,
>
>
>
> Harshad Dave
> Email: hhdave15@gmail.com
>
>
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