[Xmca-l] Re: AERA Session: Being/Becoming an Activist Scholar: Lessons From Cultural-Historical Activity Research
HENRY SHONERD
hshonerd@gmail.com
Sun Apr 1 11:15:07 PDT 2018
Greg,
Excellent! It’s easy to forget things. And after all Martin paid with his life. Such courage. He wasn’t suicidal, but preached and practiced letting go of fear. What a guy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3wKzyIN1yk <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3wKzyIN1yk>
Henry
> On Apr 1, 2018, at 10:05 AM, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Peg and Helena,
>
> Yes, the criticisms of BLM are exactly the kind of thing that King was
> criticized for (and which the history books seem to have forgotten - just
> the other day I was reading a 4th grade text about MLK and it kept
> repeating the words "peaceful" and "nonviolent" - as if the Civil Rights
> movement were just a matter of protestors saying "Pretty please can we be
> treated as equal human beings" and whites/establishment saying "Well, since
> you asked so nicely, of course we will grant you those rights [well,
> kinda]." The message is clear in these renditions: "Keep it down kids" and
> "Don't upset anybody". Good to see that some kids aren't paying
> attention...).
>
> Here is a letter to King from 12 liberal clergymen in 1963 who felt that he
> was pushing too much and inciting too much violence:
> http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/letter-to-martin-luther-king/
>
> Right now, I think we can all agree that these movements aren't to the
> point of being as successful or as much of a "movement" as the Civil Rights
> Movement, but perhaps...
>
> And Peg, thanks for that reminder.
> "From every mountainside, let freedom ring!"
>
> Best,
> greg
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 8:41 AM, Peg Griffin <Peg.Griffin@att.net> wrote:
>
>> Henry,
>> Reminiscent? Prescient? Embedded in the zeitgeist?
>> "I've looked over, and I've seen the promised land. I may not get there
>> with you, but I want you to know tonight that we as a people will get to
>> the promised land. So I'm happy tonight. I'm not worried about anything.
>> I'm not fearing any man." Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
>> In a few days, is the 50th anniversary of his assassination on April 4,
>> 2018 during his work on the the sanitation workers' strike.
>> PG
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@
>> mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of HENRY SHONERD
>> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 7:28 AM
>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: AERA Session: Being/Becoming an Activist Scholar:
>> Lessons From Cultural-Historical Activity Research
>>
>> Greg, David, and All,
>> Let’s keep on eerie for a moment: I just had a recurrent dream, I awoke at
>> 4 in the morning and, as is often the case, I won’t be getting back to
>> sleep for another half hour. The dream is that I am on a public mode of
>> transportation, this time a bus, and I am feverishly headed somewhere, not
>> knowing exactly where, but in this case it’s west (I’m pretty sure) on
>> Central, yes Central, the name of the main east/west thoroughfare here in
>> Albuquerque, but not Albuquerque in my dream. I have just made a mad
>> scramble to get on this bus. Suddenly it turns south, which is not the
>> direction I want to go. I scoot forward and ask the driver if this is where
>> we will stay headed and he assures me we’ll be back going west in a minute.
>> Suddenly the bus gets an unobstructed view from a cliff that overlooks a
>> beautiful panaorama. Then just as suddenly we are edging over the edge of
>> the cliff. Drivers change, the danger is averted, we’re on our way again,
>> and I wake up. This is a recurrent dream, though it takes place in various
>> places. This one reminds me (now that I am awake) of a small city in Spain
>> I visited with my wife and son in 2009 famous for bullfighting, on the way
>> west from Seville to Lisbon, In my waking life we had a destination, in my
>> dream I did not.
>>
>> This gets us back to the subject line with Berzemenov. David juxtaposes
>> motives and outcomes. Is life, either individually or collectively, about
>> the journey or the destination? Do we have to know AND agree, either
>> individually or collectively, with the destination?
>>
>> I’m headed back to bed. I’m debating whether to send this post. If I do, I
>> will probably regret it. But I promise, either way, that I am not making up
>> the dream. It really happened. And it is a recurrent dream: headed
>> somewhere, don’t know where and never find out before I wake up (in this
>> case) or go to another dream or back into a different stage of sleep.
>> What’s different about this version of the dream is how beautiful a moment
>> I had at that overlook. The same sort of the beautiful moment at our march
>> in Albuquerque last weekend, a waking moment we were sharing as young
>> people, motivated by the recurrent, senseless slaughter in schools here in
>> the U.S., were trying to wake up the adults. When will we wake up?
>>
>> Henry
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 31, 2018, at 10:31 PM, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm still not quite sure I understand what the pointer to Bezmenov was
>>> all about, but I do notice some eerie connections between Bezmenov's
>>> little speech and Ted Nugent's recent rant about the March for our
>>> Lives kids (and esp. the Parkland students):
>>> http://13wham.com/news/nation-world/ted-nugent-parkland-survivors-mush
>>> y-brained-children-who-have-no-soul
>>> Just noticing.
>>> -greg
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 9:51 PM, David Kellogg <dkellogg60@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Francine:
>>>>
>>>> First of all, we are all useful idiots. Just for example, Bezemenov
>>>> was a "useful idiot" for the John Birchers. And John Birch himself
>>>> was a "useful idiot".
>>>>
>>>> Secondly, the Larry Kohlberg studies were rightly criticized at book
>>>> length by Carol Gilligan (and at somewhat shorter length by Yongho
>>>> Kim and myself in "Rocks and a Hard Place", in Language and Education
>> in 2015.
>>>>
>>>> Thirdly, one of the things that makes people activists, as opposed to
>>>> amateur news therapists, is that we focus on the desirability of
>>>> outcomes and not just motives. If the study of morality over history
>>>> tells us anything, it is that only bad outcomes ever come from pure
>>>> motives. Progress, like development, is always complexly motivated.
>>>>
>>>> David Kellogg
>>>> Sangmyung University
>>>>
>>>> Recent Article in *Early Years*
>>>>
>>>> The question of questions: Hasan’s critiques, Vygotsky’s crises, and
>>>> the child’s first interrogatives
>>>> <https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09575146.2018.1431874>
>>>>
>>>> Free e-print available at:
>>>> https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/6EeWMigjFARavQjDJjcW/full
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 12:29 PM, Larry Smolucha
>>>> <lsmolucha@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> message from Francine:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are some points for activist/scholars to consider regarding the
>>>>> 1984 interview with Soviet KGB defector Yuri Berzmenov.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's the link (again):
>>>>>
>>>>> https://youtu.be/K4kHiUAjTvQ
>>>>>
>>>>> [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/K4kHiUAjTvQ/hqdefault.jpg]<htt
>>>>> ps://youtu.be/K4kHiUAjTvQ>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yuri Bezmenov - KGB Defector on "Useful Idiots" and the True Face of
>>>>> Communism<https://youtu.be/K4kHiUAjTvQ>
>>>>> youtu.be
>>>>> The USA is at this moment a destabilized nation on the way to
>>>>> crisis. In this interview from 1984, Yuri Bezmenov articulates the
>> method.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just for starters,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Yuir Bezmenov provides a working model for destabilizing a
>>>>> nation involving processes such as demoralization, abandonment of
>>>>> rational discourse, instigating crises, and normalization under the
>>>>> new social
>>>> order.
>>>>> 2. This interview is from 1984 so it is also old news of Russian
>>>>> "interference."
>>>>> 3. Apparently, there is no actual citation from Lenin of his having
>>>>> used the term "useful idiots' to describe the manipulation of
>>>>> unwitting traumatized people by someone with ulterior motives. The
>>>>> recently traumatized high school student March for Life activists
>>>>> are vulnerable
>>>> to
>>>>> such manipulation. No one knows whether the movement will fizzle
>>>>> out out or even produce voters on election day. Certainly a few
>>>>> student activists might have found their calling.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The nerve of me posting something like this that interrupts what
>>>>> could have been a seamless narrative on XMCA. But as scholars, this
>>>>> is an interesting opportunity to study this (and learn) from this
>>>>> social phenomenon (March for Lives). I remember (years ago) Dr. Jack
>>>>> Getzels at the University of Chicago talking about a study of
>>>>> student activists in
>>>> the
>>>>> 1960's that found some of the most committed student leaders scored
>>>>> at
>>>> the
>>>>> highest level of Kohlberg's stages of moral development but just as
>>>>> many were anarchists at the lowest level. Are activist/ scholars or
>>>>> activist/teachers all of one type?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
>>>>> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of mike cole
>>>>> <mcole@ucsd.edu>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 6:45 PM
>>>>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>>>>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: AERA Session: Being/Becoming an Activist Scholar:
>>>>> Lessons From Cultural-Historical Activity Research
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Francine-
>>>>>
>>>>> What sort of lesson would you like us to take from Mr. Bezmenov's
>>>>> interviews?
>>>>>
>>>>> mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Larry Smolucha
>>>>> <lsmolucha@hotmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Message from Francine Smolucha:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This link has an interview that would be of interest to
>>>>> activist./scholars
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://youtu.be/K4kHiUAjTvQ
>>>>> [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/K4kHiUAjTvQ/hqdefault.jpg]<htt
>>>>> ps://youtu.be/K4kHiUAjTvQ>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yuri Bezmenov - KGB Defector on "Useful Idiots" and the True Face of
>>>>> Communism<https://youtu.be/K4kHiUAjTvQ>
>>>>> youtu.be
>>>>> The USA is at this moment a destabilized nation on the way to
>>>>> crisis. In this interview from 1984, Yuri Bezmenov articulates the
>> method.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/K4kHiUAjTvQ/hqdefault.jpg]<htt
>>>>>> ps://youtu.be/K4kHiUAjTvQ>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yuri Bezmenov - KGB Defector on "Useful Idiots" and the True Face
>>>>>> of Communism<https://youtu.be/K4kHiUAjTvQ>
>>>>>> youtu.be
>>>>>> The USA is at this moment a destabilized nation on the way to crisis.
>>>> In
>>>>>> this interview from 1984, Yuri Bezmenov articulates the method.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
>>>>>> <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
>>>>>
>>>>>> on behalf of Carrie Lobman <carrie.lobman@gse.rutgers.edu>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:33 AM
>>>>>> To: xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu
>>>>>> Subject: [Xmca-l] AERA Session: Being/Becoming an Activist Scholar:
>>>>>> Lessons From Cultural-Historical Activity Research
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello XMCAers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am very pleased to be chairing this timely and important session
>>>>>> at
>>>>> AERA
>>>>>> in a few weeks (Monday April 16). The idea for Being/Becoming an
>>>>>> Activist-Scholar <http://tinyurl.com/ybdkh6kw> was born at last
>>>>>> years conference in San Antonio where I felt a shift as more and
>>>>>> more people, particularly graduate students, were identifying as
>>>>>> activist scholars
>>>> or
>>>>>> were seeking to engage in activism. I believe as socio-cultural and
>>>>>> activitists we have much to offer this conversation and a
>>>> responsibility
>>>>> to
>>>>>> lead and teach.
>>>>>> What Is a 21st-Century Activist Scholar to Do?<http://tinyurl.com/
>>>>> ybdkh6kw
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> tinyurl.com
>>>>>> To the naïve mind revolution and history seem incompatible. It
>>>>>> believes that historical development continues as long as it
>>>>>> follows a straight line. When a change comes, a break in the
>>>>>> historical fabric, a
>>>> leap—then
>>>>>> this naïve mind sees only catastrophe, a fall, a rupture; for the
>>>>>> naïve mind history ends until back again straight and narrow. The
>>>>>> scientific
>>>>> mind
>>>>>> on the contrary, views revolution as the locomotive of history,
>>>>>> forging ahead at full speed; it regards the revolutionary epoch as
>>>>>> the
>>>> tangible,
>>>>>> living embodiment of history. A revolution solves only those tasks
>>>> which
>>>>>> have been raised by history; this proposition holds equally true
>>>>>> for revolution in general and for aspects of social and cultural life.
>>>>>> (Vygotsky as quoted in Leviathan, 1982). Socio-cultural theory was
>>>>>> born
>>>>> of
>>>>>> activism. It emerged in the early, most improvisational moments of
>>>>>> the Russian Revolution, and one of its continuing provocations is
>>>>>> that it
>>>>> does
>>>>>> not claim to be objective or apolitical. Vygotsky and his followers
>>>>> located
>>>>>> thei
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was thrilled that Kris Guitierrez, Lois Holzman, and Anna
>>>>>> Stetsenko agreed to be our featured speakers as they each bring a
>>>>>> long history of rigorous scholarship and activism but from with
>>>>>> different frameworks, activities and communities. These three
>>>>>> presentations will jumpstart a conversation with an invited panel
>>>>>> of emerging and established scholar activists who will collectively
>>>>>> interview and respond to the
>>>>> presentations
>>>>>> and lead a discussion with the audience.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please get the word out as widely as possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/y7zguva7
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carrie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carrie Lobman, Ed.D.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chair, Department of Learning and Teaching
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Graduate School of Education
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rutgers University
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.gse.rutgers.edu<http://www.gse.rutgers.edu>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.eastsideinstitute.org<http://www.eastsideinstitute.org<h<
>>>> http://www.
>>>>> eastsideinstitute.org<http://www.eastsideinstitute.org<h>
>>>>>> ttp://www.eastsideinstitute.org<http://www.eastsideinstitute.org>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.performingtheworld.org<http://www.performingtheworld.org<
>>>> http://www<
>>>>> http://www.performingtheworld.org<http://www.performingtheworld.org<
>>>>> htt
>>>>> p://www>.
>>>>>> performingtheworld.org<http://www.performingtheworld.org>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
>>> Assistant Professor
>>> Department of Anthropology
>>> 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
>>> Brigham Young University
>>> Provo, UT 84602
>>> WEBSITE: greg.a.thompson.byu.edu
>>> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Department of Anthropology
> 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
> Brigham Young University
> Provo, UT 84602
> WEBSITE: greg.a.thompson.byu.edu
> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
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