[Xmca-l] Re: Don't do it

Ulvi İçil ulvi.icil@gmail.com
Mon Mar 13 11:06:45 PDT 2017


Thank you Tom.

13 Mar 2017 20:36 tarihinde "Tom Richardson" <tom.richardson3@googlemail.com>
yazdı:

> Sorry* Ulvi* - I've got it right this time.
> Tom
>
> On 13 March 2017 at 17:25, Tom Richardson <tom.richardson3@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi xmca-ers
> > Looks to me like Ulci is on to a hiding to nowhere with his conviction
> > that socialist revolution is a necessity.
> > Strange to imply that *all *revolutions will *inevitably *result in
> > social-human conditions worse that the overthrown ones, when the quoted
> > French overturning of society was a bourgeois revolution.
> > IMO Ulci adduces evidence that Turkish social conditions are at present
> > intolerable.
> > A literate debate about speech acts seems a strange displacement of
> > her/his original anguished cry for changes that result in greater justice
> > for oppressed populations.
> > But then I believe that the current capitalist anarchy is unconditionally
> > intolerable.
> > [No strawpersons please - Stalinism was an brutally disastrously
> > dysfunctional anti-social formation.]
> >
> > Cordialement
> > Tom Richardson
> > Middlesbrough UK
> >
> > On 8 March 2017 at 21:32, Ulvi İçil <ulvi.icil@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If I say
> >>
> >> don't do it, it is imperative.
> >>
> >> But if I say,
> >>
> >> It is not realistic and you do not need it.
> >>
> >> It is affirmative and even  though negative, it is again affirmative, to
> >> demobilize you.
> >>
> >> What I mean is Revolution.
> >>
> >> Addressed to a married couple with two children.
> >>
> >> With 3 thousand Turkish liras in Istanbul in a  rented home of at least
> >> 1000 tl for rent.
> >>
> >> 1 usd = 4 Turkish liras
> >>
> >> Survival economics.
> >>
> >> Any prospect?
> >>
> >> No.
> >>
> >> That simple.
> >>
> >> What is socialist revolution?
> >>
> >> It is neither an intention nor a wish.
> >>
> >> It is simple necessity.
> >>
> >
> >
>


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