[Xmca-l] Re: Don't do it

Ulvi İçil ulvi.icil@gmail.com
Sat Mar 11 02:58:01 PST 2017


Mike, please corrct me if i wrongly take this meaning that revolutions
causes big numbers of death, death in masses, so we would not prefer them.

But, what if we sum up all the deaths because of occupatinal murders in
workplaces, deaths from drugs, murders of women and early death because of
lack of sufficient health care and all the deaths due to the bad
orgsanisation of society under capitalism  and what is more turning of tens
of millions of children into ignorant and fanatic human beings who are
brought up able to kill anyone on the street etc

Is it not more rational to put en end to this state of human society rather
than to perpetruate it, allow it to exist.

Unemployment itself 20 % in Turkey.





11 Mar 2017 03:14 tarihinde "mike cole" <mcole@ucsd.edu> yazdı:

> >From my personal web page, Ulvi:
>
> *Apropos Thoughts on Revolutions and Their Causes*
>
> (From C. Dickens, *A Tale of Two Cities*, Ch 15)
>
> Along the Paris streets, the death carts rumble, hollow and harsh.
>
> Six tumbrels carry the day's wine to La Guillotine. All the devouring and
> insatiate monsters imagined since imagination could record itself, are
> fused in the one realization, Guillotine. And yet there is not in France,
> with its rich variety of soil and climate, a blade, a leaf, a root, a
> sprig, a peppercorn, which will grow to maturity under conditions more
> certain than those that have produced this horror. Crush human humanity out
> of shape once more, under similar hammers, and it will twist itself into
> the same tortured forms. Sow the same seed of rapacious license and
> oppression over again, and it will surely yield the same fruit, according
> to its kind.
>
> It is the nature of the fruits sewn by the French Revolution that give
> pause for thought. And perhaps accounts for the lack of reply to your
> articulately formulated note.
>
> mike
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Ulvi İçil <ulvi.icil@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If I say
> >
> > don't do it, it is imperative.
> >
> > But if I say,
> >
> > It is not realistic and you do not need it.
> >
> > It is affirmative and even  though negative, it is again affirmative, to
> > demobilize you.
> >
> > What I mean is Revolution.
> >
> > Addressed to a married couple with two children.
> >
> > With 3 thousand Turkish liras in Istanbul in a  rented home of at least
> > 1000 tl for rent.
> >
> > 1 usd = 4 Turkish liras
> >
> > Survival economics.
> >
> > Any prospect?
> >
> > No.
> >
> > That simple.
> >
> > What is socialist revolution?
> >
> > It is neither an intention nor a wish.
> >
> > It is simple necessity.
> >
>


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