[Xmca-l] Re: xmca new discussion started

Alfredo Jornet Gil a.j.gil@iped.uio.no
Thu Jun 1 16:55:25 PDT 2017


Thanks so much Martin!
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Sent: 02 June 2017 01:45
To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: xmca new discussion started

Hi Alfredo,

In general I would respond that EM is the study of people acting and interacting, and to the extent to which development, of the various kinds that you name, is brought about in practice — which is entirely! — EM will offer a way to describe it and explain it.

Indeed, one of the classics of EM deals precisely with personal development: becoming a skilled jazz pianist:

Sudnow, D. (1974). Ways of the hand: The organization of improvised conduct. Harvard University Press.

I’ve published a couple of things where I’ve used Conversation Analysis, closely related to EM, to explore development. The first is a study of a consultation in which a Babalow seeks to guide the personal development of his client:

Packer, M. J., & Tibaduiza Sierra, S. (2012). A concrete psychological investigation of ifá divination. Revista Colombiana de Psicología, 21(2), 353-369.

The other is a study of classroom interaction, in which one can clearly see microgenesis:

Packer, M. J. (2011). Schooling: Domestication or ontological construction? In T. Koschmann (Ed.), Theories of learning and studies of instructional practice (pp. 167-188). New York: Springer.


> On Jun 1, 2017, at 6:16 PM, Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no> wrote:
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> Yes, I agree with what you say. I guess I used the word change where I meant development. So I am going to change my question:
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> What do and could do researchers concerned with development (social, personal) with EM.
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> You recently shared with us a beautiful book on the topic of development. How does EM feature in it?
> Alfredo
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> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of Martin John Packer <mpacker@uniandes.edu.co>
> Sent: 02 June 2017 00:40
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: xmca new discussion started
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> Hi Alfredo,
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> I’ve always thought that EM deals very well with change, because it does not treat stasis as the norm. EM is the study of the methods that people (actants) employ to create and sustain order, various kinds of order. Creating and sustaining order always requires change.
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> Martin
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>
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> On Jun 1, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no<mailto:a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>> wrote:
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> I personally find ethnomethodology EM fascinating and a powerful approach to stick the realities of social life; but I always wondered what does EM do with questions of change.
>





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