[Xmca-l] Re: Hegel on Action

[James Ma]

Thanks for such helpful explanation, Andy.
Regarding my last question, I mean one's feeling or sense perception
involved in social practice in a social context possesses the material
quality of a psychic image (a sign in the mind). This material quality can
be one's facial expression or bodily movement connected with a particular
feeling.

James

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On 15 July 2017 at 09:42, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:

> James, the meaning for words such as "material" and to a lesser extent the
> other words in your message have meanings which are extremely context (or
> discourse) dependent. The Stanford Encyclopaedia of Philosophy doesn't have
> a definition of Matter, considering it only in relation to Form, but their
> definition of Substance will do the trick. I follow Lenin and Vygotsky in
> my understanding of matter. (Hegel didn't like to use the word, because he
> took it as too linked to Atomism. Marx used "material" in a very specific
> way to do with reproduction of the means of life.)
>
> As to the philosophical meaning of "matter" I think I said it in the paper
> as succinctly as possible. If it's in the mind then it is not material. I
> can't make sense of your last question.
>
> Andy
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> On 15/07/2017 6:28 PM, James Ma wrote:
>
>> This is interesting to me, Andy. Do you rule out anything that has
>> material quality but is actually associated with a mental sign (a sign in
>> the mind, as Peirce would say)? Do you consider social practice (you
>> mentioned earlier) to be tinted with the intrapsychological within oneself?
>>
>> James
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>> On 15 July 2017 at 07:11, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net <mailto:
>> ablunden@mira.net>> wrote:
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>>     No, it would be spreading confusion, Greg.
>>
>>     "Matter" in this context is everything outside of my
>>     consciousness. "Activity" in this context is human,
>>     social practice. Moving attention to the sub-atomic
>>     level, a field where we have no common sense, sensuous
>>     knowledge, does not help.
>>
>>     Andy
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>> decision-making>
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>>     On 15/07/2017 2:31 PM, Greg Thompson wrote:
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>>         Andy,
>>         Just musing here but I'm wondering if "matter" is
>>         anything more than activity, particularly when
>>         considered at the sub-atomic level.
>>         At that level, matter seems a lot more like the
>>         holding of relations in some activity (not so
>>         different from the Notion?).
>>         Or would that be taking things too far?
>>         -greg
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>>         On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 10:12 PM, Andy Blunden
>>         <ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
>>         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
>>         <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>> wrote:
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>>             Anyone who got interested in that material about
>>             "Hegel on Action", here is my contribution.
>>
>>         https://www.academia.edu/33887830/Hegel_on_Action
>>         <https://www.academia.edu/33887830/Hegel_on_Action>
>>                    <https://www.academia.edu/33887830/Hegel_on_Action
>>         <https://www.academia.edu/33887830/Hegel_on_Action>>
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>>             Andy
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>> s/book/origins-collective-decision-making
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