[Xmca-l] Re: Отв: Re: Vygotsky and Feurebach by Peter Keiler

[Ivan Uemlianin]

Dear Annalisa

Thank you for your comment.

I agree, the relationship between whole and parts, and between parts is 
complicated --- for pluralists as well as for monists.  There's a very 
good paper by Jonathan Schaffer (2010) called "Monism: the priority of 
the whole" that goes into that ("mereology") in some detail.  PDF 
available here:

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/ff0f/4e110da053d4ca1a2bacff43b42bb14ebdd3.pdf

Best wishes

Ivan


On 06/08/2017 01:26, Annalisa Aguilar wrote:
> Dear all,
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> In reply to Ivan, I enjoyed the observation you bring up that "fundamental particle" is a contradiction in terms (to Spinoza, anyway).
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> I would ask, at the same time, how is it that we observe a contradiction in terms.
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> That's why I wonder if it is right to say that it has to do with whole vs parts, and perhaps it has to do with relationship instead.
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> Can we have society void any kind of relationship? How do we define parts without the concept of "whole," or better "unity"? Can we conceive of a part with an absence of a whole to which it belongs?
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> (Here's a question: What is a "whole part"? is it the mirror of a "fundamental particle"?)
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> Doesn't a part even if next to another part, have a requirement to be a part of *something*?
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> Or is this just a game of semantics?
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> I do agree that we Anglo-Americans whenever we are, have been hobbled occasionally by behaviorism. But what of Pavlov? How does he *relate* to Watson, et al.?
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> I dream what it would be like to have a mind never tainted by Watson or by Descartes. But would we then have a Vygotsky or a Spinoza, if not for Watson or Descartes?
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> I cannot say...except perhaps to pose the question, "What came before all of them?"
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> Oh there goes that ellipse again. I let it slip by.
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> Kind regards,
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> Annalisa

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