[Xmca-l] Re: Prototyping

[White, Phillip]

My off the top of my head, Michael, is that in part information is being consumed - as well as shared feelings of success, or frustration, or good cheer.

Perhaps, even in a Batesonian-way. Imminent mind is being both produced and consumed.

And of course, to consume can also be an example of full engagement (consumed with interest) and the root is "to take up".

Some thoughts.

Phillip

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Hell, Peg -- I cannot get my tomatoes to grow in the odd weather we have
had this summer, let alone get them to market. Pretty much can be said for
my scholarly efforts as well!

I have been mulling over why prototyping and CHAT appear to have a kind of
natural affinity. I am speculating at the moment that both are focused on
production, and the AT part of CHAT is very clearly focused on production.
Just think of the activities of those who attend, say, ISCAR.

But production is intimately (dare I say dialectically?) related to
consumption. Where is the good CHAT scholarship on the Foodie movement?
What is being consumed in an activity-centered classroom or a developmental
work research change lab? Seems worth inquiring about.
mike

mike

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks to Philip White for pointing me to the alternative (and preferred)
> spelling "jury-rigged". In looking that up, I also found "jerry-built" as
> another term.
> (My dad was from Indiana and he always pronounced it "jerry-rigged").
>
> These all differ from the term "hack" which, for me, simultaneously has
> connotations of elitism and cultural critique but I'm not sure I could say
> why (maybe because I've heard it frequently used with Ikea - Ikea hacking).
>
> "Jailbreaking" is an interesting one too - as in "jailbreaking your
> iPhone." That is where you take an existing technology and rebuild it for
> some design other than what it was intended. (I had a friend who was
> building an online educational credentialing website that used the phrase
> "jailbreaking the college degree" - some real trouble there, but I support
> the idea in principle).
>
> Really appreciate Zaza's paper as well as Shirin et al's paper...
>
> -greg
>
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Oops, I sent this directly to Zaza and not to the listserve and it seems
> > relevant to the Vossoughi et al paper that Mike just posted. It is in
> > response to Zaza's list of kukiya-kiya equivalents in other languages:
> >
> > A personal favorite in English is "jerry-rig". Although I should add that
> > this has slightly more of a sense of hasty and perhaps a little bit
> clumsy
> > assembly - suggested to have originated in WWII as somewhat derisive way
> to
> > refer to equipment slapped together by the Germans. Somewhat different
> from
> > other contexts where the sense of necessity is emphasized and haste and
> > clumsiness are less emphasized - if at all. Maybe has something to do
> with
> > the tendency in the U.S. to (be able to) rely on "expert" manufacture in
> > the U.S.
> >
> > And, I wonder if this might have something to do with different
> > cultural-ideological contexts of the maker movement vs. kukiya-kiya.
> > Whereas kukiya-kiya is an act born of necessity, the maker movement has
> > more of a leisure-class bougie feel to it - an attempt to recover one's
> > creative species being - if you'll allow the drive-by Marx reference (and
> > Mike's earlier example seems some mix of the two - a kukiya-kiya attempt
> to
> > make ("Engineering") makers out of these kids (something that they
> > certainly already are in many non strictly "Engineering" ways)).
> >
> > Zaza, I wonder if this kind of distinction between innovation of
> necessity
> > and innovation for pleasure makes any sense for what you see there on the
> > ground in the kukiya-kiya case as compared to the maker case? Or if this
> > distinction is perhaps a bit overdetermined and are there actually both
> > things happening in both cases? (e.g., is there a sense of joy in
> > creativity and making in the kukiya-kiya case?)
> >
> > Enjoying your lovely paper as well as the conversation around it!
> >
> > Very best,
> > greg
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 11:49 AM, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:
> >
> >> For those interested in pursuing the implications of Zaza's work on
> Kukiya
> >> kiya and the maker movement fashionable in affluent societies, I
> suggest a
> >> new thread with the title, prototyping.
> >>
> >> Attached is the paper by Vossoughi, Hooper, and Escudé suggested by
> Molly.
> >>
> >> mike
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an
> >> object
> >> that creates history. Ernst Boesch
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > Assistant Professor
> > Department of Anthropology
> > 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
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> >
>
>
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> 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
> Brigham Young University
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It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an object
that creates history. Ernst Boesch