[Xmca-l] Re: Baritone Voices Promoting Gender Equality in Intellectual Co-Creation

David Kellogg dkellogg60@gmail.com
Sat Nov 5 14:02:19 PDT 2016


Larry, Peter, and Rod:

Not at all. It's a great pleasure to be writing stuff that gets to the
right place.

For Larry--Here are the links to Ruqaiya's work on the lchc website that I
put in the previous mail:

http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Paper/JuneJuly05/HasanVygHallBernst.pdf

http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Paper/JuneJuly05/HasanSemMediation.pdf

I think the problem with what the other David K is saying about associative
thinking on the other thread is that so much of life is literally
elsewhere. Yet it too is linked, as we say in China, by a thousand threads
and ten thousand strands, to our own. Right now, for example, the USA where
I was born is embroiled in a bracing national referendum on sexual assault
(and why not? It is an issue that at least half of the electorate
understands very well). But closer to home, a quarter of a million people
are on the streets of Seoul demanding the immediate resignation of an
authoritarian bully who seized her fortune and her political career through
family connections. Perhaps what David Ki is calling logic proper is really
just the historical product of millennia of other people's lives and other
people's associations. And perhaps where logic as a historical, social
product of other people's lives really differs from my own associative
thinking it is thanks to the fact that other lives really are different
from mine.

I think one of the main differences between baritones and sopranos has to
do, not so much with how much chutzpah but how much time we have at our
disposal. That's why I am writing these summarizing notes, for busy people,
soprano or baritone, like Peter F--attached. Let me know, Peter, if they
make the readings any faster...or just add to the pile!

David Kellogg
Macquarie University

On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 2:44 AM, <lpscholar2@gmail.com> wrote:

> I wanted to take a turn and was concerned about interrupting so decided to
> pick up a thread or text *message* from David Kellogg and transpose it to a
> new thread for Baritone Voices amplifying Soprano voices [hopefully in
> harmony].
>
> David, like Rod, I would, following your invitation and your lead get my
> hands [or computer] on something that Ruqaiyn wrote. Your way of
> contrasting her with that list of men, and also sensing Vygotsky is read
> too much diverging spontaneous and scientific word meaning and her seeing
> *value* in their *reversibility* [each IN the other] indicating
> co-generation and co-expression of thought, intellectualization, logic, and
> logos, seems to be pregnant with possibility as Baritones finding *common
> sense* with Sopranos.
>
> Rod, your taking up David’s invitation and describing your course
> *understanding understanding* is also very pertinent to *extending* this
> conversation.
>
> I hope my jumping in rapidly [with excitement] and the hope of learning to
> more effectively to become a Baritone co-creating *sens* [which always
> indicates meaning with direction] may be encouraged in a new thread for
> Baritones supporting Soprano voices. Thereby creating a symphonic harmony.
>
> Back to pick up and *resume* Rod’s request to engage with Ruqiya. Whwere
> do we start?
>
> PS: Soprano voices may reply here
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>
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