[Xmca-l] Re: Imagination;semiotic mediation

[mike cole]

So there is a whole lot packed into that combination of word and image, or
perhaps word/image. So many concepts woven into a single whole. Of course,
one's knowledge of the parts is going to vary across populations, but the
process of sense making at work appears common among us.

What about the third or forth image down the line, the one with the stop
sign. What is the sequence of meaning making as you look at that?

mike

As a second example I

On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 4:06 PM, <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com> wrote:

> David,
> Yes, the effect of the message (and the implicit message of Trumps
> campaign)
> Is "rich outside, poor inside".
>
> But I think it was Spy magazine that long ago labeled Trump a
> "short-fingered vulgarian". Here is a recent reprise by the author of that
> epithet:
> http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2015/10/graydon-carter-donald-trump
> I'm sure he'll be getting lots more mail from Trump!
> Greg
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 27, 2016, at 2:41 PM, David Kellogg <dkellogg60@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Greg:
> >
> > We are taught to think that Trump is boorish and uncultured and from the
> > wrong side of the Hudson because of his hair-trigger reactions. How is it
> > possible to teach us to do this--WITHOUT noticing that this very teaching
> > reliably informs us that the whole playground game started with a taunt
> > from Senator Rubio? (It was, actually, a very well aimed taunt, designed
> to
> > bring out the ease with which this potential president can be jerked
> > around, one that suggests strategic knowledge of Trump's greatest
> > weaknesses; it was not, as Rubio himself claimed, something he just
> > stumbled into by accident in the desperate flailing of his dying
> campaign).
> >
> > We are taught to think that this is all highly regrettable. How is it
> > possible to teach us to do this--WITHOUT noticing that the very people
> > teaching this are the ones who created this carnival atmosphere where
> > serious discussions are impossible--mostly these hard, unfunny 24-7
> comedy
> > shows which are always so hard up for their hard, unfunny material,
> > relying, again and again, on the puerile devices of profanity and
> > industrial quantities of canned laughter? How not to notice that people
> who
> > most "shocked, shocked!" are precisely the people who have littered
> > politics with what are essentially unserious, unsocial, non-political
> > lifestyle issues? (Not just the comedy shows. which have been the death
> of
> > comedy as well as the death of politics, but the Evangelical Christians,
> > and above all the 24-7 news people who have to talk about politics all
> day
> > and all night without ever really talking class or social issues of any
> > kind.)
> >
> > Here's what I notice. We notice Trump's boorishness and not Rubio's just
> > because Trump is bigger than Rubio (I am not referring to their male
> > endowments). We notice vulgarity in others but not in ourselves because
> > when I do it on national television and you laugh at it in the privacy of
> > your own home, it's just not so "in your face" for either of us.
> >
> > I notice that white working people have been successfully taught to ask
> > that if Trump's so dumb, how come he's rich? I notice that the simple job
> > of the media is to demonstrate that although he is rich, he is actually
> > rather insecure, thin-skinned, infantile, and his chain is easily jerked.
> > This shouldn't be that difficult, and it's only mildly subversive of
> class
> > politics in the USA, since there is only the slightest suggestion that
> some
> > people who are rich are actually not particularly mature, trustworthy,
> > or deserving of life-and-death powers over you and your children.
> >
> > But then in order to do this very simple task, the media now argue that
> > although he's rich, and although he's from the East Coast, he's from the
> > wrong side of the river, and his playground demeanour shows it. In other
> > words, although he's rich, he's really poor.
> >
> > No wonder Trump is so popular!
> >
> > David Kellogg
> > Macquarie University
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 2:39 AM, Greg Thompson <
> greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Should we say anything about the fact that nobody has mentioned the
> "hand
> >> envy" moment of one of the recent Republican debates (the one where
> >> politics was raised to new lows)?
> >>
> >>
> http://www.businessinsider.com/new-yorker-cover-about-trumps-hand-size-2016-3
> >> (you should really check out the original debate - really amazing stuff)
> >>
> >> Nor has anyone said anything about the hailing hand gesture done at some
> >> Trump rallies (note: this is a Trump-supporting page, but no, I'm not a
> >> Trump supporter, it had the least ads of any of the descriptions I could
> >> find):
> >>
> >>
> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/03/08/trump_controvery_over_trump_pledge_salute.html
> >>
> >> Did everyone just assume that this is common knowledge? Or did people
> not
> >> know about these hand-y origins?
> >> And if you didn't know about this, does knowing this deepen the meaning
> of
> >> the image?
> >>
> >> and a recent Daily show segment where Black Trump responds to the New
> >> Yorker cover:
> >>
> >>
> http://www.mediaite.com/online/the-daily-shows-black-trump-reenacts-the-donalds-crazy-rant-about-his-hands/
> >>
> >> -greg
> >>
> >> On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 11:36 PM, Annalisa Aguilar <annalisa@unm.edu>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> BTW:
> >>>
> >>> Eugenics has the Greek etymology of eu- meaning "good" or "well," and
> >>> genos, meaning "race," "stock," "kin," that is... "well-born".
> >>>
> >>> This may relate to the short fingers, which also makes a reference to
> >>> mating, and also possibly, just possibly sterilization.
> >>>
> >>> The image becomes cleverer every second!
> >>>
> >>> :)
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>>
> >>> Annalisa
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
> >> Assistant Professor
> >> Department of Anthropology
> >> 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
> >> Brigham Young University
> >> Provo, UT 84602
> >> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
> >>
>



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