[Xmca-l] Re: Community Psychology

[Greg Thompson]

Quick question for anyone who knows about ropes and tensile strength:

Is the tensile strength of the rope greater than the sum of the tensile
strength of each of the threads?

I ask b.c. I've been talking holism a lot lately and have been looking for
a good metaphor for the notion of "emergent properties".

-greg



On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 9:19 AM, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:

> I forgot about Inglod, Larry. Of course!
> Can you pick out a parallel passage from his work.
> The rope metaphor also has an interesting affinity to the use of the
> pathways metaphor to describe ontogenetic development.
>
> mike
>
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 8:09 AM, Lplarry <lpscholar2@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Mike,
> > This book seems to be focused specifically on the theme of the discussion
> > as it is unfolding.
> > Ingold's metaphor of rope as particular lines of carrying on together I
> > read as questioning another metaphor of *totality* which carries on with
> > notions of parts and wholes that articulate together or joint together
> into
> > a context of totality.
> > The existence of these parts that exist as substance which joint together
> > coincidently.
> >
> > The rope metaphor is challenging this nice packaged *totality* metaphor
> > where the parts fit together or are articulated with nothing left out.
> > Your question asking what exists as excess beyond the boundary marking
> > (naming) of activity setting may be reflected upon as parts or lines of
> > inquiry.
> >
> > Parts carrying on or travelling within totality/wholes
> > Lines carrying on within ropes
> > Larry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "mike cole" <mcole@ucsd.edu>
> > Sent: ‎2016-‎03-‎21 12:22 PM
> > To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> > Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Community Psychology
> >
> > Trying to follow through on each of the concepts, Cliff.
> >
> > In this connection, I notice that you use the term "activity setting"
> which
> > you attribute to Vygotsky. The book I took the McDermott materials from
> is
> > called "Understanding Practice: Perspectives on activity and context. In
> > that book, in the discussions among authors, Engestrom is led to declare
> > that "the activity is the context."
> >
> > So my mind is spinning around what an activity setting might refer to
> over
> > and above "activity." And then there is the question of how your use of
> the
> > term context and the word setting relate to each other. And all of this
> is
> > presumably closely linked to the discussion on text/context.
> >
> > Interesting to revisit old topics from new perspectives.
> >
> > mike
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Cliff O'Donnell <cliffo@hawaii.edu>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks, Mike. Attached is the manuscript for my 2012 article with
> Roland.
> > > In it we discuss how we are using the concepts of context, culture, and
> > > intersubjectivity.
> > > Note that context is expressed in one of the goals of community
> > psychology
> > > by its professional organization,
> > > the Society for Community Research and Action (SCRA):
> > > ‘'to promote theory development and research that increases
> > > our understanding of human behavior in context’'
> > > (SCRA 2010 )."
> > >
> > > After discussing the many meanings of culture, we used the definition
> as
> > > the "shared meanings of people, developed through their history
> > > and activities." Also in our discussion of intersubjectivity, we noted
> > > "intersubjectivity does not imply uniformity. Diversity may be a shared
> > > value,
> > > agreement about process may allow frequent conflict, and there will
> > always
> > > be differences among people in their skills, thoughts, experience, and
> > > emotions. In
> > > addition, activity settings are dynamic; their characteristics are in
> > flux
> > > and, therefore, the intersubjectivity of their participants change over
> > > time (O’Donnell et al.
> > > 1993, p. 507)."
> > >
> > > Cliff
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mar 20, 2016, at 8:26 AM, mike cole wrote:
> > >
> > > Alfredo's comments sent me looking for background material on the CC
> side
> > >> of Roland and Cliff's article.
> > >>
> > >> There is an article by Seymour as part of a special issue of MCA a
> while
> > >> ago. It seems not to have attraced the notice it deserves.Attached.
> > >> Also attached is a recent summary of Community Psychology and
> > Intervention
> > >> research which seemed like promising background and perhaps a source
> of
> > >> additional ideas, since intervention is what so many us do
> > professionally.
> > >>
> > >> Myself, I have been thinking about why Roland and Cliff identified
> > >> secondary intersubjectivity as a key common principle.
> > >>
> > >> mike
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >> It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an
> > >> object
> > >> that creates history. Ernst Boesch
> > >> <Revisiting the Creating of Settings.pdf><communitypsych.pdf>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an
> object
> > that creates history. Ernst Boesch
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an object
> that creates history. Ernst Boesch
>



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