[Xmca-l] Re: "English" as a school subject

David H Kirshner dkirsh@lsu.edu
Tue Aug 16 15:51:17 PDT 2016


All I can figure is that the prosody of Gaelic and deeply Scottish-accent English is nearly identical. 
So, no code switching, just 3 guys having a conversation among themselves. 
It sounded like I should understand what they were saying, but I couldn't quite put the phonemes together into lexical items. 
David


-----Original Message-----
From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of FRANCIS J. SULLIVAN
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 3:05 PM
To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: "English" as a school subject

Wow, so were the code-switching? Should we coin the term "Gaelish" or "Englic"?

Francis J. Sullivan, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Teaching and Learning
College of Education
Temple University
Philadelphia, PA 19122


Find out what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them.

 Frederick Douglass

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 3:15 PM, David H Kirshner <dkirsh@lsu.edu> wrote:

> Gaelic was brought from Ireland in the 5th and 6th centuries AD and 
> now is spoken mainly in western Scotland.
> I was picked up hitchhiking in Scotland many years ago by three guys 
> in a Volkswagen, and could not tell for the duration of the 30 minute 
> drive whether they were conversing in English or Gaelic.
> David
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@ 
> mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of FRANCIS J. SULLIVAN
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 12:53 PM
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: "English" as a school subject
>
> And isn't it also true that "Irish" (Is that the same as "Gaelic"? 
> What are the differences?) has mad a real comeback as a spoken 
> language among Irish citizens?
>
> Francis J. Sullivan, Ph.D.
> Associate Professor
> Department of Teaching and Learning
> College of Education
> Temple University
> Philadelphia, PA 19122
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 8:33 AM, Stephen Walsh <stephenwals@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > HI Peter,
> > e
> > In Ireland all schoolchildren study 'Irish'.  It is compulsory form 
> > the beginning of primary education to the end of secondary education.
> > If it would be helpful to have more detail I can put some more info 
> > together for you.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Stephen
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Peter Smagorinsky <smago@uga.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, I'm writing mainly to my colleagues who are familiar with 
> > > public school, pre-university (what we call K-12 in the US) 
> > > education systems, with a question.
> > >
> > > In English-speaking nations, there is a school subject called "English"
> > > that involves the study of literature (much from English-speaking
> > authors,
> > > rather than "world literature" which may have its own separate 
> > > course), writing (or now, multimodal composing), and language 
> > > study (of the
> > English
> > > language, often in the form of grammar instruction). This subject 
> > > is not ESL, EFL, TESOL, or other way of describing learning the 
> > > language of English by speakers of other languages.
> > >
> > > My question: I know that in Russia there are school subjects of 
> > > Russian literature and language; in the Netherlands there is the
> following:
> > > The Study Dutch Language & Literature (Dutch: Nederlandse Taal- en
> > > Letterkunde) can be found at each Dutch university. Formerly you 
> > > studied linguistics and literature, from about 1975 a third 
> > > component was
> > > introduced: Taalbeheersing (Dutch for language skills, especially 
> > > writing and argumentation). Nowadays the studies have new names, 
> > > like Dutch Language and culture
> > >
> > > Do other nations dedicate a school subject to this discipline
> > (literature,
> > > writing, language study in L1 and generally nationalistic in
> curriculum)?
> > > If so, what is it called, and what does it comprise?
> > >
> > > Thx,Peter
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>



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