[Xmca-l] Re: Hitler's World by T. Snyder

[Huw Lloyd]

Interesting.  Would anyone like to describe the degree of the connection
addressed?  For that is what I'd take to be the principal basis of
"brilliance" in this context.

Huw

On 16 September 2015 at 14:15, Peter Smagorinsky <smago@uga.edu> wrote:

> Yes.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:
> xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Huw Lloyd
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 9:03 AM
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Hitler's World by T. Snyder
>
> On 16 September 2015 at 13:55, Peter Smagorinsky <smago@uga.edu> wrote:
>
> > Can't tell a book by its title. Snyder's got a ton of relatively
> > recently released historical archival material that Tolstoy didn't have
> available.
> >
>
> I thought the argument was quite clear, Peter.  Does Snyder address "the
> connection existing between these men (Hitler, Stalin) and the movement of
> the nations"?
>
> Huw
>
>
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:
> > xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Huw Lloyd
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 8:35 AM
> > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> > Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Hitler's World by T. Snyder
> >
> > The titles don't communicate "essential reading".  Perhaps one should
> > consider the argument fluently expressed by Tolstoy first?  The
> > extract below is from the second epilogue to Tolstoy's War and Peace (
> > http://www.planetpdf.com/planetpdf/pdfs/free_ebooks/War_and_Peace_NT.p
> > df)
> >
> > "If the purpose of history be to give a description of the movement of
> > humanity and of the peoples, the first question- in the absence of a
> > reply to which all the rest will be incomprehensible- is: what is the
> > power that moves peoples? To this, modern history laboriously replies
> > either that Napoleon was a great genius, or that Louis XIV was very
> > proud, or that certain writers wrote certain books.
> >
> > All that may be so and mankind is ready to agree with it, but it is
> > not what was asked. All that would be interesting if we recognized a
> > divine power based on itself and always consistently directing its
> > nations through Napoleons, Louis-es, and writers; but we do not
> > acknowledge such a power, and therefore before speaking about
> > Napoleons, Louis-es, and authors, we ought to be shown the connection
> > existing between these men and the movement of the nations."
> >
> > Best,
> > Huw
> >
> > On 16 September 2015 at 11:14, Peter Smagorinsky <smago@uga.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > I've read two of Snyder's books and think he's one sharp guy.
> Bloodlands:
> > > Europe between Hitler and Stalin is essential reading.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:
> > > xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of David
> > > xmca-l-bounces+Preiss
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 11:00 PM
> > > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> > > Subject: [Xmca-l] Hitler's World by T. Snyder
> > >
> > > Colleagues,
> > > This brilliant essay will interest many of you, David
> > >
> > > http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2015/sep/24/hitlers-world/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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