[Xmca-l] Re: Objective and Subjective ZPDs

Andy Blunden ablunden@mira.net
Sun Sep 6 02:56:40 PDT 2015


David, do you have a PDF of an article which explains this 
double-barrelled concept?
Andy
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*Andy Blunden*
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On 6/09/2015 6:26 PM, David Kellogg wrote:
> Martin, Andy, Mike...and Others:
>
> I've been trying to make sense out of Seth Chaiklin's distinction between
> the "objective" ZPD and the subjective one. He's obviously got in mind
> exactly the material we are now translating: Vygotsky's attempt to render
> the ZPD as a "next zone of development", where the next zone of development
> is either
>
> a) given by the social situation of development (and therefore more or less
> the same for a whole age group of children).
>
> b) given by the "ripening functions" in the lines of development (and
> therefore different for every individual child).
>
> So here's what I've got in chart form. As you'll see, it's very different
> from the chart that Andy had in his 2009 article, and also somewhat
> different from the very elegant formulations that Martin had (which to my
> chagrin I can't remember very well).
>
> I've added a column of linguistic indicators taken from Halliday's 2002
> volume on early childhood language, because I have to be able to apply all
> this to data some day very soon.....
>
> This is a very sketchy schematicky sort of preliminary draft, and
> criticisms, objections, imprecations, and even just gutteral mutterings
> would be most welcome.
>
> David Kellogg



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