[Xmca-l] Re: Teaching in social context

[HENRY SHONERD]

Yikes!

> On Mar 17, 2015, at 6:12 PM, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:
> 
> Darn good thing it rhymes, Henry, 'cause it doesn't have a whole lot of
> reason!
> 
> mike
> 
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 1:59 PM, HENRY SHONERD <hshonerd@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Also:
>> History doesn’t repeat itself, but it does rhyme.
>> Mark Twain
>> 
>>> On Mar 17, 2015, at 1:39 PM, Dr. Paul C. Mocombe <
>> pmocombe@mocombeian.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> history repeats itself, the first as tragedy, then as farce...Karl marx
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dr. Paul C. Mocombe
>>> President
>>> The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc.
>>> www.mocombeian.com
>>> www.readingroomcurriculum.com
>>> www.paulcmocombe.info
>>> 
>>> <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: "Glassman,
>> Michael" <glassman.13@osu.edu> </div><div>Date:03/17/2015  3:29 PM
>> (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <
>> xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu> </div><div>Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Teaching in
>> social context </div><div>
>>> </div>I think the difference is that this time there is much more push
>> back against this type of thing.  Those with control of the megaphone are
>> bringing back the same old hits, but perhaps people aren't buying in to
>> them that much.  The student and parent revolt against standardized
>> testing.  The #Blacklivesmatter.  The mayoral election in Chicago.
>>> 
>>> We certainly do live in interesting times.
>>> 
>>> Michael
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:
>> xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Greg Thompson
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 3:23 PM
>>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Teaching in social context
>>> 
>>> @mike - sadness.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 1:13 PM, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Sure looks and feels like the late 1960's, culture of poverty deja
>>>> vu-ing all over again.
>>>> Goes right along with re-segregation of our schools, overt violence
>>>> against people of color, and biological "explanations" that threaten
>>>> to become self-fulfilling prophecies.
>>>> mike
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Greg Thompson
>>>> <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com
>>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> but Mike (other Greg here), I think Paul was particularly picking up
>>>>> on
>>>> the
>>>>> fact that this was part of a "district wide mock test".
>>>>> 
>>>>> I thought that this kind of cultural and socioeconomic bias in
>>>>> testing
>>>> had
>>>>> been chopped at the roots by the myriad of critiques of this sort of
>>>> thing
>>>>> back in the 80's and 90's? I would have at least thought that the
>>>> problems
>>>>> with a passage like this would be obvious to test-makers today. Or
>>>>> has
>>>> that
>>>>> all been forgotten?
>>>>> 
>>>>> More evidence that we are back to the beginning?
>>>>> 
>>>>> [and btw, I'm perhaps even more baffled by how this got integrated
>>>>> into a 3rd grade test. Seems a bit beyond what my kids could have
>>>>> handled in 3rd grade.]
>>>>> 
>>>>> -greg
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 11:13 AM, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Greg--- Not to mention people being caught in the rude.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Seems like the grumpy quality of the narrative is being picked up
>>>>>> on,
>>>> but
>>>>>> hard to tell.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> *The Secret Garden* is antiquarian by American standards, having
>>>> appeared
>>>>>> in the latter part of the 1900's. I note there is a modern TV
>>>>>> series
>>>>> about
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Paul - Would it be permissible to incorporate some of the TV, so
>>>>>> the
>>>> kids
>>>>>> get a richer interpretive object and mix it with reading?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> mike
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Greg Mcverry
>>>>>> <jgregmcverry@gmail.com
>>>>> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> A hoe, a gardener named weatherstaff  and a mistress, Oh how
>>>>>>> meaning
>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> be misconstrued. And I am not even considering the mansion which
>>>>>>> few
>>>> of
>>>>>>> your wife's students have any real cultural reference point.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 12:54 PM Dr. Paul C. Mocombe <
>>>>>>> pmocombe@mocombeian.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> My wife teaches 3rd grade at an inner-city school.  Today the
>>>>> students
>>>>>>>> were tested on a district-wide mock test and they came across
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> attached
>>>>>>>> passage.  Half the class came up to her, and said that they
>>>>>>>> can not
>>>>>> read
>>>>>>>> the passage bcuz they are cursing in it...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Dr. Paul C. Mocombe
>>>>>>>> President
>>>>>>>> The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc.
>>>>>>>> www.mocombeian.com
>>>>>>>> www.readingroomcurriculum.com
>>>>>>>> www.paulcmocombe.info
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with
>>>>>> an
>>>>> object
>>>>>> that creates history. Ernst Boesch.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
>>>>> Assistant Professor
>>>>> Department of Anthropology
>>>>> 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
>>>>> Brigham Young University
>>>>> Provo, UT 84602
>>>>> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an
>>>> object that creates history. Ernst Boesch.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
>>> Assistant Professor
>>> Department of Anthropology
>>> 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
>>> Brigham Young University
>>> Provo, UT 84602
>>> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an object
> that creates history. Ernst Boesch.