[Xmca-l] Re: Teaching in social context

[Greg Thompson]

@mike - sadness.


On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 1:13 PM, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:

> Sure looks and feels like the late 1960's, culture of poverty deja vu-ing
> all over again.
> Goes right along with re-segregation of our schools, overt violence against
> people of color, and biological "explanations" that threaten to become
> self-fulfilling prophecies.
> mike
>
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > but Mike (other Greg here), I think Paul was particularly picking up on
> the
> > fact that this was part of a "district wide mock test".
> >
> > I thought that this kind of cultural and socioeconomic bias in testing
> had
> > been chopped at the roots by the myriad of critiques of this sort of
> thing
> > back in the 80's and 90's? I would have at least thought that the
> problems
> > with a passage like this would be obvious to test-makers today. Or has
> that
> > all been forgotten?
> >
> > More evidence that we are back to the beginning?
> >
> > [and btw, I'm perhaps even more baffled by how this got integrated into a
> > 3rd grade test. Seems a bit beyond what my kids could have handled in 3rd
> > grade.]
> >
> > -greg
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 11:13 AM, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > Greg--- Not to mention people being caught in the rude.
> > >
> > > Seems like the grumpy quality of the narrative is being picked up on,
> but
> > > hard to tell.
> > >
> > > *The Secret Garden* is antiquarian by American standards, having
> appeared
> > > in the latter part of the 1900's. I note there is a modern TV series
> > about
> > > it.
> > >
> > > Paul - Would it be permissible to incorporate some of the TV, so the
> kids
> > > get a richer interpretive object and mix it with reading?
> > >
> > > mike
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Greg Mcverry <jgregmcverry@gmail.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > A hoe, a gardener named weatherstaff  and a mistress, Oh how meaning
> > > could
> > > > be misconstrued. And I am not even considering the mansion which few
> of
> > > > your wife's students have any real cultural reference point.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 12:54 PM Dr. Paul C. Mocombe <
> > > > pmocombe@mocombeian.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > My wife teaches 3rd grade at an inner-city school.  Today the
> > students
> > > > > were tested on a district-wide mock test and they came across the
> > > > attached
> > > > > passage.  Half the class came up to her, and said that they can not
> > > read
> > > > > the passage bcuz they are cursing in it...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dr. Paul C. Mocombe
> > > > > President
> > > > > The Mocombeian Foundation, Inc.
> > > > > www.mocombeian.com
> > > > > www.readingroomcurriculum.com
> > > > > www.paulcmocombe.info
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an
> > object
> > > that creates history. Ernst Boesch.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
> > Assistant Professor
> > Department of Anthropology
> > 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
> > Brigham Young University
> > Provo, UT 84602
> > http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
> >
>
>
>
> --
> It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an object
> that creates history. Ernst Boesch.
>



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Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Department of Anthropology
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Brigham Young University
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