[Xmca-l] Re: XMCA home page?

[Huw Lloyd]

The foswiki software.


On 9 March 2015 at 11:53, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:

> Well, the "X" in "XMCA" means eXtended, you know. But be that as it may,
> what software would you recommend for a low maintenance on-line community
> CHAT garden?
>
> Andy
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> *Andy Blunden*
> http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
>
>
> Huw Lloyd wrote:
>
>> I don't think you'd need it to support MCA, Andy.  MCA is a different
>> project to that of communicating CHAT concepts, practices and resources.
>> MCA endeavours to do a portion of that, in a particular way.  XMCA usually
>> reflects a certain impatience with that, it reflects a need to work over,
>> discuss and critique the knowledge and concepts themselves rather than
>> papers built out of a few personalised conceptions related to CHAT.
>>
>> MCA helps academics keep their publication count up and it helps to keep
>> CHAT ideas in circulation within academic settings.  But I am not
>> convinced
>> that CHAT can be successfully accommodated by educational institutions as
>> we know them.  So, the point is to take an educational project based on
>> CHAT principles (which can often be taken as a scientific exposition of
>> common good sense) and build a truer educational resource out of it.  That
>> kind of effort necessitates 'gardening' both for the production of
>> resources and for their accommodation.
>>
>> Huw
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8 March 2015 at 23:47, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> How would you implement a "community garden" to support MCA and xmca,
>>> Huw?
>>> Andy
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *Andy Blunden*
>>> http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
>>>
>>>
>>> Huw Lloyd wrote:
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>>>
>>>> Well I wrote a server-side library to achieve a broader version of that
>>>> 5
>>>> years ago.  But that is peripheral to what Andy's question is about.
>>>>
>>>> Huw
>>>>
>>>> On 8 March 2015 at 21:34, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ha! Huw, I was looking at another, much simpler way of doing a feed
>>>>> than
>>>>> what Annalisa had shown (and I don't really know how I got there since
>>>>> it
>>>>> doesn't seem to be included in Annalisa's email).
>>>>>
>>>>> I was looking at a Quora page but I seem to recall that there are other
>>>>> websites that will let you set up a page that will feed from other
>>>>> sites.
>>>>> The idea being that you can set up a page and determine multiple other
>>>>> sites that will feed to it (e.g., the XMCA home page, Andy's Vimeo
>>>>> page,
>>>>> etc.). Seems like there was even a feature that you can set so that it
>>>>> will
>>>>> regularly search the web and display new content that appears on the
>>>>> web
>>>>> (e.g., you could set a search term for "cultural historical activity
>>>>> theory" and there would be a section of the page that would display
>>>>> everything that is recent on the web that relates to those search
>>>>> terms).
>>>>>
>>>>> I know there is at least one site out there that can do this but I
>>>>> can't
>>>>> recall what it was called (I learned of it from Mike Wesch who used it
>>>>> for
>>>>> one of his classes).
>>>>>
>>>>> Huw or anyone else, do you know what I'm talking about?
>>>>>
>>>>> That was what I meant when I said that it would be minimal time to
>>>>> maintain
>>>>> and could be set up by anyone with minimal cost.
>>>>>
>>>>> But maybe that was all just a dream...
>>>>> -greg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8 March 2015 at 18:40, <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> .Anyway, it seems like it would be an easy thing to set up. And
>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>> could do it, right?
>>>>>>> So why not prototype it and see what works and what doesn't? And then
>>>>>>> refine as needed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is easy only to the extent that anyone could use their spontaneous
>>>>>> notions of what is required.  If they are persistent and thorough they
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> will
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> end up with some conceptions regarding how certain mistakes might be
>>>>>> avoided.  If they reflected on that process with equal thoroughness,
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> they might end up with some concepts with which to start the work all
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> over
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, no, it isn't easy.  And it isn't actually cheap either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Huw
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 7, 2015, at 10:43 PM, Annalisa Aguilar <annalisa@unm.edu>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Andy,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My apologies, I did not mean to sound suspicious, I sincerely
>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you both had something in mind.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The site you link to doesn't look like a garden to me. It looks like
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> regular website.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How about these links below?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The 1st site might be a drupal site, Drupal has something called
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "drupal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> planet" that will collect feeds, but I'm not sure how it works
>>>>>>> exactly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [A feed assembly site might be more like a garden? Then there is no
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for permissions, just program the newsfeed and it sucks in links from
>>>>>>> various independent sites? Does wordpress do something like this?]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The 2nd, 3rd, and 4th sites below are wordpress sites.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The 5th is site is using Open Journal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not sure what the 6th is, but I couldn't resist to see what a real
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> garden website might look like!  :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.knightfoundation.org/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.knightfoundation.org/blogs/knightblog/2015/3/5/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> four-knight-fellows-how-community-shapes-creativity/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> or
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://sweden.se/
>>>>>>>> https://sweden.se/society/gender-equality-in-sweden/
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> http://ilovetypography.com/
>>>>>>>> http://ilovetypography.com/2014/10/15/the-first-female-typographer/
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> http://www.clouds365.com/
>>>>>>>> http://www.clouds365.com/6-22-14/
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> http://www.haujournal.org/index.php/hau/issue/view/13
>>>>>>>> http://www.haujournal.org/index.php/hau/article/view/hau4.3.002
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Of course, here is the bona fide garden site:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/
>>>>>>>> http://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/sustainability/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On that happy note...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Annalisa
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
>>>>> Assistant Professor
>>>>> Department of Anthropology
>>>>> 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
>>>>> Brigham Young University
>>>>> Provo, UT 84602
>>>>> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
>>>>>
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